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People here don’t seem to understand what leverage is.
And that's exactly why Atlanta will only deal Trae to the Spurs. This isnt hard. The Hawks will not just surrender three golden tickets to the Spurs. Keep dreaming.
People here don’t seem to understand what leverage is.
Atlanta will just hold on to Young if nothing else but you can still dream of drafting Flagg and Boozer.
I'd like to see the Spurs not monkey around with this. Give ATL a great offer on draft night for Trea and get the deal done. Not really worried about LA, more likely some unknown team (Dame/Milwaukee) lurking ready to swoop in now or at the trade deadline. I'd offer 4 firsts + 2 swaps + Keldon and filler. Basically the picks are the Dejounte package + Chicago. I also threw in a 24 swap (our #8 for their #11) to light a fire under their ass to get the deal done this draft night. Its a lot but its going to take a lot to get another All-star on our team. Plus I don't really see this as offering up everything. We'd still have our own firsts, a ton of seconds to grease future deals, Cap space, plus our team might actually be good, attracting some Vets to come play with us (remember those days). If we catch some luck on draft night we could select Risacher with our top three pick, Knecht at #11, and trade for Trea Young. Yes please.
^ If we get Trae we just surround he and Wemby with three point shooters and profit. Guys like Sochan who clog up the paint and aren't even very good should be out - our drafting should be all about IQ and shooting/defense.
We'd win 70 games if PATFO built the roster around those two according to the modern game's principles (while maintaining/re-imagining portions of The System/beautiful game).
Realistically, I don't see PATFO building the roster as such but instead to their own twisted ends. One undeniable fact, however, is our scoring is honestly pathetic. If we are going to keep a bunch of these ' s around Wemby, they definitely need to be spoonfed by the Trae Youngs of the world - of which there's not too many, obviously.
I'm glad you're not in charge... Nobody in the League is going to pay that much.. that values him over KD and DM trade packages
Hawks get all their picks back plus the Spurs include another pick for taking back Zollins. I really hope the Raps pick covey's at 7 and the Hawks pick ends up at 10. Do a pick swap for taking back Zollins.
at this point, i feel as if young has become somewhat of a metaphor, or symbol, for many spurs fans.
You don't seem to understand there is no point to Atlanta tanking if they can't control their draft, and getting some mid picks from the Lakers doesn't soften the blow for them.
That's way too much.
I think it's comparable to those deals. And you might be right, this would probably be the best offer on the table, but that's why ATL would take it. If they are not blown away by an offer now, they're not going to trade him.
Again, why would Atlanta even trade him if it wasn't to gain their own picks back? Future picks does them no good now, and it delays their rebuild. Trading Trae to the Lakers makes their own draft picks better for some other team.
They would absolutely take that... We'd be foolish to offer that much...
I don't see how it's comparable to the KD or DM deals because these picks are projected to be around the top 10 and those are projected to be in the mid 20's.
I'm not hating on Trae either. I might even be willing to offer more than any other team out there, but I'm not going overboard..
Trae hasn't even expressed an interest in leaving the Hawks. The Hawks wouldn't be in any hurry in this scenario to get rid of him. Why would they trade away their star for future picks? It does them no good, and that will only benefit the Spurs.
Why? What offer do you think beats LAL’s Reaves, Hachimura, Russell, 3 firsts and a swap? There’ll be other teams bidding too and we should also not presume that Atlanta only want a picks package, they’re very likely to look for good players as the meat of the deal because they’ll not want to tank.
I think a lot of the people who advocate for a Trae deal wouldn’t have the stomach for the cost should it actually happen.
I think that's where the majority of the fans who are wanting this trade are at. I think baseline bum's offer is about where I would be at as well.
Spurs giving Atlanta back their 25 and 27 picks, tearing up the 26 pick swap, and Keldon + Zollins absolutely murders what the Lakers can offer since it lets the Hawks tank for top 5 picks instead of getting picks in the 20s from the Lakers. No need to add two more picks and two swaps for our offer to look better than LA's. LA can't offer Atlanta chances to get in on the Cooper Flagg lottery nor the AJ Dybantsa/Cam Boozer lottery.
if you really want to sweeten it you could make the 2027 pick the better b/n spurs and hawks picks (likely doesnt make a difference, but is a sweetener). or if push came to shove throw in the charlotte pick
yes Please
for Harden
They can have the Charlotte fake first, not interested in giving them an unprotected swap.
For ATL, what beats that package from LA is simply keeping Trae. To anyone's knowledge, he hasn't asked out nor is Atlanta looking to move him. We only have 3rd hand reports that the Spurs asked about him.
And lose him in 2026, for nothing.
So they’ll trade Trae for less than what they paid for Murray? I’m going to disagree there, they’d be much better off keeping him or pursuing a Towns for Trae type of trade. We’ll see.
Great. They can keep him, and stay on the playin/lottery merry go round.
Good heavens, you don’t give up any kind of usable draft pick just to get rid of a player you don’t want. Ridiculous.
It’s foolish to try to dictate both sides of a possible trade. What the Hawks might accept depends on their plans, and only they know that.
The Spurs should simply start out by offering the Hawks the picks the Spurs got in the DJM trade. Listen to what the Hawks say about it, and go from there. It’s safe to take for granted that the Hawks would be interested in regaining their draft picks. Otherwise, even the Hawks, themselves, may not know at this point what it would take to produce a handshake.
Beg pardon for the inappropriate attempt at being realistic in such a thread.
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