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    Right.

    Why do you think Budanov is saying Navalny died of natural causes? He doesn't appear to even have an incentive to say this but he did.
    ...Word.

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    What would he know and why would it matter?

    Your basic premise seems to be "Sorry guys, he died of natural causes" -- so what?
    We don't know what he knows. And it would matter because if he has evidence that would lead to the truth then that matters.

    But you don't care about the truth if it doesn't perfectly agree with what you want.

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    We don't know what he knows. And it would matter because if he has evidence that would lead to the truth then that matters.

    But you don't care about the truth if it doesn't perfectly agree with what you want.
    ...Work that bas over, 7!

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    Paid russian crisis actors, obviously


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    Paid russian crisis actors, obviously

    Now wait a minute, dad; Russia has been taking one -hole village after another since they took Ardvark a week ago.

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    We don't know what he knows. And it would matter because if he has evidence that would lead to the truth then that matters.

    But you don't care about the truth if it doesn't perfectly agree with what you want.
    You didn't answer my question.

    Why does it matter if he died of natural causes while wrongly imprisoned? Why is it so important for you to pimp this guy's statement that he died of natural causes?

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    You didn't answer my question.

    Why does it matter if he died of natural causes? Why is it so important for you to pimp this guy's statement that he died of natural causes?
    ...because you'd set your bonnet, your hopes & dreams that he died via nefarious means. An insider said he died of natural causes and you're, well you and State run CNN are hunting high & low for a way back to the fore where they can canonize this Nav fellow and his pretty little wife and making across to the U.S. and be properly feted, you know free health coverage, a Senate spot, a Park Avenue apartment, etc, etc, etc.

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    Guys, Putin wrongly imprisoned Navalny and put him in conditions that have historically led to premature deaths, but this guy said Navalny died of natural causes so you can't pin this one on Putin!

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    You didn't answer my question.

    Why does it matter if he died of natural causes while wrongly imprisoned? Why is it so important for you to pimp this guy's statement that he died of natural causes?
    I find it interesting because so many people just assume he was "directly murdered" as you might put it. Yet we hear something different from an unlikely source. I'd like to know the truth because it does speak to the state of mind of the Kremlin if they were bold enough to murder him while in prison.

    That you think I'm pimping the statement speaks to how badly confused you are.

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    ...Work that bas over, 7!
    Chumpdumper and some others here can't stand the fact that I disagree with spending $60 or $70 billion dollars per year indefinitely on Ukraine when we have $34 trillion in national debt. So they latch on to anything including imagined motivations and positions that I supposedly have so that they can attack me as "pro-Russian".

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    I find it interesting because so many people just assume he was "directly murdered" as you might put it. Yet we hear something different from an unlikely source. I'd like to know the truth because it does speak to the state of mind of the Kremlin if they were bold enough to murder him while in prison.

    That you think I'm pimping the statement speaks to how badly confused you are.
    I'm not confused at all. You're downplaying Navalny's death as " happens" rather than a very likely outcome of that kind of imprisonment in Russia.

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    Chumpdumper and some others here can't stand the fact that I disagree with spending $60 or $70 billion dollars per year indefinitely on Ukraine when we have $34 trillion in national debt. So they latch on to anything including imagined motivations and positions that I supposedly have so that they can attack me as "pro-Russian".
    You're a useful idiot at best. This is the best ROI of just about any foreign aid we could make.

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    Chumpdumper and some others here can't stand the fact that I disagree with spending $60 or $70 billion dollars per year indefinitely on Ukraine when we have $34 trillion in national debt. So they latch on to anything including imagined motivations and positions that I supposedly have so that they can attack me as "pro-Russian".
    ...I wish they'd attack me!

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    I'm not confused at all. You're downplaying Navalny's death as " happens" rather than a very likely outcome of that kind of imprisonment in Russia.
    You just want to excise "natural causes" from this event, and trust me, son, you'll get it done before the month is out.

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    You're a useful idiot at best. This is the best ROI of just about any foreign aid we could make.
    Your thinking is exactly how we racked up trillions of dollars in debt in Iraq and Afghanistan. You may as well be Cheney.

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    I'm not confused at all. You're downplaying Navalny's death as " happens" rather than a very likely outcome of that kind of imprisonment in Russia.
    You're badly confused. I didn't downplay at all... you just want to believe I did so you can convince yourself you have a justifiable reason to attack me.

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    Your thinking is exactly how we racked up trillions of dollars in debt in Iraq and Afghanistan. You may as well be Cheney.
    Nah, we racked up trillions of dollars in debt by not taxing the rich enough. Now you're trying to compare Ukraine to Iraq. It's this kind of disingenuousness that leads people to the conclusion that you are indeed pro-Russia. There's no other reason for you to be this obtuse.

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    You're badly confused. I didn't downplay at all... you just want to believe I did so you can convince yourself you have a justifiable reason to attack me.
    Again, what other reason is there for you to keep bringing up Budanov's quote that you can't even say you believe?

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    Nah, we racked up trillions of dollars in debt by not taxing the rich enough. Now you're trying to compare Ukraine to Iraq. It's this kind of disingenuousness that leads people to the conclusion that you are indeed pro-Russia. There's no other reason for you to be this obtuse.
    Financing wars with little plan and no realistic endgame, whether they are in Iraq or Afghanistan, is exactly what we're doing in Ukraine.

    No realistic timetable... No realistic goals... No realistic estimate of what this costs... etc, etc, etc....

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    Again, what other reason is there for you to keep bringing up Budanov's quote that you can't even say you believe?
    I bought it up once at first... and then only brought up in response to others essentially asking me about me about the post that I brought it up in.

    What else am I suppose to do?

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    Financing wars with little plan and no realistic endgame, whether they are in Iraq or Afghanistan, is exactly what we're doing in Ukraine.

    No realistic timetable... No realistic goals... No realistic estimate of what this costs... etc, etc, etc....
    How many American troops have died in Ukraine?

    Did we invade Ukraine?

    Do we have American troops currently fighting in Ukraine?

    Please answer each of these questions honestly so you can compare Ukraine to Iraq and Afghanistan honestly.

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    How many American troops have died in Ukraine?

    Did we invade Ukraine?

    Do we have American troops currently fighting in Ukraine?

    Please answer each of these questions honestly so you can compare Ukraine to Iraq and Afghanistan honestly.
    No, it wasn't our dirt, it's Russia's.

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    I bought it up once at first... and then only brought up in response to others essentially asking me about me about the post that I brought it up in.

    What else am I suppose to do?
    We responded because you rather breathlessly wanted to attempt to correct the record for the benefit of Putin (although you don't actually believe Budanov).

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    How many American troops have died in Ukraine?

    Did we invade Ukraine?

    Do we have American troops currently fighting in Ukraine?

    Please answer each of these questions honestly so you can compare Ukraine to Iraq and Afghanistan honestly.
    Each question you ask is irrelevant because I'm specifically talking about the financing of those wars.

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    Each question you ask is irrelevant
    Of course they're relevant. This has everything to do with the cost of war and the reasons for financing wars.

    Why can't you just answer these simple questions?

    How many American troops have died in Ukraine?

    Did we invade Ukraine?

    Do we have American troops currently fighting in Ukraine?

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