2024 NBA Draft Thread

[rankingtear]

I'm not sure what blueprint he's implying, tbh.

Is he saying Tre is the starting PG of the future and we shouldn't improve on that position?

Inverted pick and roll with Tre. DHO with Devin. I've said it a thousand times, Wemby does not need a helio guy, he needs guys that can move around him when he functions as a pnr ballhandler and dho hub. His offensive versatility and playmaking is wasted as a roll man.

[JPB]

We first need to know what spurs intentions are before stating what they need in this draft. If they trade for Trae, obviously it changes everything. With Trae/Tre as starter and backup, there's no point picking a PG (like Topic that I don't want anyway).

Now, even if you can sign a vet swingman to streghthen your rotation around Vic and Trae, Risacher is versatile enough to get playing time as a backup wing and can play 2-3-4, à la Batum... Same for a vet big. Depending on if Collins is on the trade package, even if you sign an experienced big to play along Vic, you can still pick Sarr as a backup 4-5.

[Ignazzz]

Do you imagine this guy at the 4 and Wemby at the 5?

lets make a deal for Chet our new PF and then draft this guy on SF.
nicola from our first and I can live with Devin as SG. Or trade him for OG.

[spurraider21]

I'm not sure what blueprint he's implying, tbh.

Is he saying Tre is the starting PG of the future and we shouldn't improve on that position?

I don’t think he means Tre specifically but a good distributing pg + wemby + shooters.

wemby doing this well with a non shooting pg could also alleviate concerns about topic’s shooting questions. Especially if you upgrade the SF spot

[Knoxxx]

Ulrich Chomche



Will be interesting to see where this guy goes in the draft. I think this he is going to be a late riser, and wouldnt be surprised to see a team use a top 3 or top 5 pick on him if he performs well at the combine and in individual workouts. He has rare athletic tools and appears to be a plus volume 3 point shooter.

Scouting Report
https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospec...ulrich-chomche

Perhaps most impressively, he doesn’t throw the ball to the other team after every rebound.

[Mr. Body]

March Madness could still change a lot of things. If Cody shines for ex

If Topic makes a good come back as well...

There are still no clear top 3-5 imo

I agree that things can definitely shift. It'll shift until draft day, imo, a year like the Banchero/Jabari Smith year when it wasn't clear who Orlando was going to pick, but even moreso.

The tournament may greatly help some players, the way Mathurin exploded during his year.

The combine and team workouts will change things even more.

As a note, Cody Williams likely won't be in the tournament. Colorado, despite having three likely drafted players, is on the outside looking in. USC definitely will not play, as they are totally out (Isaiah Collier).

[Mr. Body]

Sat afternoon basketball.

Consistently put Dillingham in my top 5. Maybe a consequence of a weak draft, but he has elite quickness and puts pressure on the rim at a near elite level, limited mostly by his physical weakness, which might improve. Very good handles, good vision and, for Spurs purposes, very good at throwing lobs. Concerns about defense are obvious, but he's actually improving, imo. Clearly is working on it. There's no one in this draft that is elite at certain skills like he is.

Any case, Kentucky was down at home vs. an Arkansas team desperate (too late) to turn things around. Dillingham came in and put tons of pressure on the paint with his drives. Wasn't shooting well today, but this ignited a stagnant Wildcat offense. He had some makes and lobs/assists and that made the game.

Consistently, too, think Sheppard is a high-end role-player and, given his also diminutive height, this restricts his value. His defense is also not really great, but he does make very heady and some very eye-popping plays. Every time I watch them, I confirm having him lower.

Furphy didn't have a good or remarkable game against a strong Baylor team, perhaps wasn't big enough for the moment, but he's ahead of where he was expected to be (not likely for this draft). His limitations seemed to be there - does not initiate offense (partly due to role), wasn't strong enough to have a defensive impact (but movement and positioning was fine), didn't play scared or timid but just wasn't a player for this game. I'd have him late lottery or teens right now.

EDITED: Oh, Ivisic. If he comes out this year, which I think is likely, definitely someone to consider trading into the 20s to get. If he ranges in the teens, maybe not, but there's good stuff there.

[mo7888]

Sat afternoon basketball.

Consistently put Dillingham in my top 5. Maybe a consequence of a weak draft, but he has elite quickness and puts pressure on the rim at a near elite level, limited mostly by his physical weakness, which might improve. Very good handles, good vision and, for Spurs purposes, very good at throwing lobs. Concerns about defense are obvious, but he's actually improving, imo. Clearly is working on it. There's no one in this draft that is elite at certain skills like he is.

Any case, Kentucky was down at home vs. an Arkansas team desperate (too late) to turn things around. Dillingham came in and put tons of pressure on the paint with his drives. Wasn't shooting well today, but this ignited a stagnant Wildcat offense. He had some makes and lobs/assists and that made the game.

Consistently, too, think Sheppard is a high-end role-player and, given his also diminutive height, this restricts his value. His defense is also not really great, but he does make very heady and some very eye-popping plays. Every time I watch them, I confirm having him lower.

Furphy didn't have a good or remarkable game against a strong Baylor team, perhaps wasn't big enough for the moment, but he's ahead of where he was expected to be (not likely for this draft). His limitations seemed to be there - does not initiate offense (partly due to role), wasn't strong enough to have a defensive impact (but movement and positioning was fine), didn't play scared or timid but just wasn't a player for this game. I'd have him late lottery or teens right now.

EDITED: Oh, Ivisic. If he comes out this year, which I think is likely, definitely someone to consider trading into the 20s to get. If he ranges in the teens, maybe not, but there's good stuff there.

I watched that Ky game today and i came away with something different. Dilly had a short spurt that was good, but overall i just wasn't impressed. I mean, i can't drop him much lower on my board (#9, but in the 5-9 tier) because of everyone else. Comparing he and Shephard (same tier) I see Shephard as a solid role player who could start vs Dilly as a hot/cold bench guy.

On the Baylor Kansas game i agree with your Furphy take. On the Baylor side i was very disappointed in JaKobe. Basically laid an egg with low bbiq that really didn't offer much when his shot wasn't falling.

[Mr. Body]

I watched that Ky game today and i came away with something different. Dilly had a short spurt that was good, but overall i just wasn't impressed. I mean, i can't drop him much lower on my board (#9, but in the 5-9 tier) because of everyone else. Comparing he and Shephard (same tier) I see Shephard as a solid role player who could start vs Dilly as a hot/cold bench guy.

On the Baylor Kansas game i agree with your Furphy take. On the Baylor side i was very disappointed in JaKobe. Basically laid an egg with low bbiq that really didn't offer much when his shot wasn't falling.

Dillingham had a bad game... then won the game. UK loses without him. I don't know if that translates, but this isn't the first game he lifted the team out of the mire and nearly beat TAMU (forced overtime with a series of threes) and LSU (detonated down the stretch). Maybe he gives away more than he gives overall, but it's a pattern, which is impressive for a freshman. Even if he comes off the bench in the NBA, as he does now, his ability to take over games has a good chance of translating.

[mo7888]

Dillingham had a bad game... then won the game. UK loses without him. I don't know if that translates, but this isn't the first game he lifted the team out of the mire and nearly beat TAMU (forced overtime with a series of threes) and LSU (detonated down the stretch). Maybe he gives away more than he gives overall, but it's a pattern, which is impressive for a freshman. Even if he comes off the bench in the NBA, as he does now, his ability to take over games has a good chance of translating.

Yup... that's pretty much right. It has a good chance of translating. I am concerned about his wingspan and how that'll affect his ability to finish in a league with a lot more length.

As of now, I probably hope someone else takes him higher and causes someone else to drop. I just think that in the top 10 I'm not stoked about taking a guy with his profile.

[mo7888]

Isaiah Collier is showing out today. He's showing the skill set that had him in contention for the #1 pick before the season started.

[Bruno]

^ Yep, USC sucks but he was great. To me, he is for sure a strong candidate for at least the Raptors pick.

[Mr. Body]

Collier is a big body that moves very well. Reminds me of Scoot -- not airborne, but chunky. Collier may be faster.

But to me he was spamming a lot of the same AAU type moves. Washington couldn't keep him out of the lane, which is great for Collier, but right now I don't see much diversity or a skillset that works for the Spurs. I hope someone takes him high, though.

[mo7888]

Collier is a big body that moves very well. Reminds me of Scoot -- not airborne, but chunky. Collier may be faster.

But to me he was spamming a lot of the same AAU type moves. Washington couldn't keep him out of the lane, which is great for Collier, but right now I don't see much diversity or a skillset that works for the Spurs. I hope someone takes him high, though.

He hit a couple 3's early in rhythm, and the shot looked smooth and natural. I liked that, what i don't like is that team as a whole looks undisciplined and untethered (like your AAU comment).

Bronny looks completely uninterested out there. He is either lazy or just dgaf...

[mo7888]

^ Yep, USC sucks but he was great. To me, he is for sure a strong candidate for at least the Raptors pick.

I think so, too. He's got a lot more upside than Shephard or Dilly.... he's got a lot more downside, too

[spurraider21]

I just doing see any point guarding from Collier

[mystargtr34]

If the Spurs could get Risacher or Williams with their pick then one of Shepard, Dillingham, Collier with the Raps pick then they’ve taken a solid step forward in solving two of their biggest weaknesses. All you can ask for really. Big wing who can shoot at the 3/4 spot and an upgrade at the 1.

Then you’ll still have a war chest of picks to make a splash for a superstar if desired.

[duncan2150]

Isaiah Collier is showing out today. He's showing the skill set that had him in contention for the #1 pick before the season started.

[Mr. Body]

I just doing see any point guarding from Collier

Same. He's an older school shoot-first point guard.

Those first threes looked great, but when he misses, there's no touch, they rocket off the rim or they are just off. This plays out with his free throws. If they don't go in, there's little shooter's touch.

[rascal]

Same. He's an older school shoot-first point guard.

Those first threes looked great, but when he misses, there's no touch, they rocket off the rim or they are just off. This plays out with his free throws. If they don't go in, there's little shooter's touch.

Not really

Pure shooters hit all net. You hear and see the net snap with the proper arc on the shot. Those three point shots he made hit the rim.

[CGD]

It’s funny, the old Wizards regime could be counted on to take a reach player like this with a top3 selection. Suspect that’s not the case anymore, but we’ll see.

[Mr. Body]

Not really

Pure shooters hit all net. You hear and see the net snap with the proper arc on the shot. Those three point shots he made hit the rim.

Yeah, like the inside of the rim. Lots of his shots are wildly off. If they hit the rim elsewhere they usually go astray. Like I said, no shooter's bounce.

[Mr. Body]

It’s funny, the old Wizards regime could be counted on to take a reach player like this with a top3 selection. Suspect that’s not the case anymore, but we’ll see.

Oh man you're totally right. He'd score 22 ppg and get like 2 apg and lose all sorts of games, yet the media would talk him up.

[Pauleta14]

Collier looked more like Keldon on this vid than a potential NBA PG to me

[BackHome]

I watched that Ky game today and i came away with something different. Dilly had a short spurt that was good, but overall i just wasn't impressed. I mean, i can't drop him much lower on my board (#9, but in the 5-9 tier) because of everyone else. Comparing he and Shephard (same tier) I see Shephard as a solid role player who could start vs Dilly as a hot/cold bench guy.

On the Baylor Kansas game i agree with your Furphy take. On the Baylor side i was very disappointed in JaKobe. Basically laid an egg with low bbiq that really didn't offer much when his shot wasn't falling.

I couldn’t watch all the game but when Arkansa was making a run early Sheppard stepped up and calmly hit back to back 3 balls and nothing but net