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To change the convo up a bit, let's say the Spurs hit the jackpot again and get the first overall pick. What do you do with it?
Trade it
For picks or player(s)?
Haven’t watched San Antonio play this year but from highlights looks they rely on their last five draft picks as the closing five:
2019 - Johnson
2020 - Vassell
2021 - Jones
2022 - Sohan
2023 - Webanyama
If that’s indeed the case then good track record for what they can do in June. Two of those years their top picks were prematurely released for non-bball related causes.
Draft Sarr. Will be as close as you can get to being the next KG.
Get Risacher and Sheppard with the Toronto pick at 7/8. Check Brooklyn's appe e on a trade for Mikal Bridges (good possibility) and likewise with the Jazz for Markkanen (next to impossible in my view). And if either of these two are available, haggle hard for one of the picks as a trade commodity. If neither work.. try the FA market to pick up a marquee FA ..like Paul George and Tyus Jones. And be active on trades.
Athletically maybe but skiillwise he is more Howard than KG.
Yeah, you definitely don't watch the games (and their record).
That team is terrible, spurs are going nowhere in the NBA with that closing 5 and most of these guys won't be around (or on the bench) in a Wemby lead, contending spurs team...
Penis or not, Primo would have been a bust and was a bad reach at 12, considering the players you could have picked instead... If he was that good, spurs wouldn't have cut him no matter what. He's a G leaguer now who appeared in one game ( a blow out Clippers win) this season...
- Sochan at 9 is OK in what was retrospectively a weak draft past the top 3 (despite a lot of hype) but h's not a starter in a contender.
- I guess Vassel is OK at 11 but guys like Tyrese Maxey or Haliburton were available (imagine them with Wemby).
- Sammich at 19 was a very bad pick.
- Branham and Wesley at 20 and 25 is what you mostly get there year in, year out, 3rd stringers if you're lucky, or guys who will be out of the league after their rookie ciontract most of the time, with the occasional exception (like Maxey or Keldon).
-Keldon at 29 is pretty good.
End of story, besides Wemby (dude!) and maybe Vassel as a role player, spurs didn't draft any starter in this league in the lottery in the last five years, and two of their top 20 picks were gone and basically out of the NBA before two years. And they only "scored" once (Keldon) in the 20-30 earea out of 3 picks.
Spurs drafting track record is nothing ro rely on to determine that's the main or way they should go to build on ciontender, wich would be criminal with Wemby in. Go watch these past 5 years final draft lists and you'll be like "who or where the are all these guys" for 80% of the picks.
Last edited by JPB; 03-03-2024 at 04:54 AM.
you somehow seem to think that it's Trae's fault why the Hawks are so bad. Well guess what: DeAndre Hunter became one of the worst defenders in the NBA. Dejounte Murray too. Clint Capela as well. The Hawks main problem is interior defense cause Capela ain't blocking anything. Ask any Hawks fan about this and they will tell you that Trae Young actually improved by a lot on defense this season.
You also gotta consider that we are starting Tre Jones at PG and still have a top 5 defense with Wemby on the floor. You simply need a great 3-and-D SF to replace Champagnie and the defense should be fine even with Young on the floor.
i find that hard to believe
It looks like Tre, Vassell, and Cedi actually play hard every game. Obviously Wemby.
Everyone else that has gotten pt has kind of sucked. Sochan has turned it around though.
Trading Keldon and some picks for anyone worth a damn would be a double bonus.
Overall I'm very curious to see if the Spurs stay locked in with their 5 year Plan, not sure what that is exactly, or if they've discussed being flexible to adapt along the way.
As fans we hear lots of things. "See what we have this year." "5 Year Plan."
I hope we get the Toronto pick because I don't expect big changes. But if the team really is shocked that the supporting cast isn't that good, and that a power forward can't immediately play point guard then maybe they change at least a little bit.
This is new territory, the national media demanding improvements. The FO hate attention. Anyway. We'll see.
I don't think the Spurs need to be expected to contend next year, and to do so is probably putting the cart before the horse.
Spurs just need to make changes to show enough improvement to convince Wemby we are on the right track. Even being near .500 or possibly in the play-in convo should do that.
There is a big difference, morale-wise, between winning 15 games a year versus 40.
Last edited by Dex; 03-03-2024 at 10:22 AM.
Yep. It's the same logic as wanting to trade for a 28 year old Mikal Bridges. Yes, it helps for a few years, then doesn't.
The team is thinking in terms of more than a decade, the fanbase is wanting to eat all the seed corn.
And that's the exact problem with most NBA fans.
It's a 30 team league and it's more or less impossible to follow all the teams unless it's your job.
People also have a hard time accepting that players can change.
Good players decline, flawed players work on their game.
It's not about you or me believing something, it's about facts that are easy to see if you watch Hawks games or even look at the advanced stats.
(I'm not going to do the research for you, google is free to use.)
I've said as much before, though in the case of Bridges the Nets have him as "untouchable" because they believe, in conjunction with their market, that as a well liked malleable, elite role player, he'll help attract the next star to them.
To be fair to the detractors, Young's defense would be more of an issue in the playoffs when top p-n-r ball handlers will play target him more frequently, playing seek and destroy to a greater degree.
I would think the Spurs would prefer the Kings pick.
Your proposal could be more realistic from the Hawks perspective because it nets them two of their three picks back, but on the other hand mine is a bird in the hand type scenario where they theoretically get more immediate help which they could use in a retain Young scenario.
Branham or Wesley being included as mostly salary filler is definitely possible if not probable.
Given that they are not having Wemby or really anyone focus on spots and routine. He still basically lets them play out the sets without the slightest micromanagement. After the year I expect they will study hat they have build a structure for Wemby to build on and hone that in. I do not know if the plan had Wemby being a perennial all star and DPoY candidate after year 1.
There are so many perspectives on how this roster gets rebuilt.One way I've been pondering is that the only goal is to make DV our 3rd best player asap. When he is our 4th best player, we will be lethal.
Trades, free agents and the draft, of course are the only options. At least by next season, I hope that Vassell is 2a or 2b. There's a LONG way to go to rebuild this roster.
By positions of need, it's toss-up between PG and SF in my mind. Draft the best player available and roll the dice seems appropriate.
I see next season as a shortening of the leash on all the auxiliary guys: Collins, JC, Keldon, Wesley, Branham and whoever is on the roster and not named Wemby, Vassell or Sochan.
The other question that is HUGE is what position does Wemby play? That will determine so much of how we rebuild. The move to center seems inarguable this year. It will be interesting if that remains the approach.
Adding another big that can rebound and pound the paint, yet, is nimble enough to guard PF seems inevitable in creating a contender. Naz Reid is intriguing for this role (or as backup center.) That moves Sochan to SF and leaves us needing that starting PG.
If Wemby stays at center, we need upgrades at SF and a PG sooner than later.
The rumors that Pop is frustrated with the roster build will probably become apparent by the draft. Wemby is probably about where they projected him to be in year 3, ideally. I've never seen a rookie learn this fast, adapt and also have as deep a bag offensively. That's a great problem to have, but, requires substantial readjusting. The thing that I think Pop is really good at is knowing people. My bet is he will find some better pieces for the roster AND for the FO. Just a hunch that there might be some quiet movement among the staff FO.
Golden state down a measley 56 points.
Wembanyama should know by now wins are difficult to.come by
Mods please delete this stupid focking thread!
Why? They were 1-12 before these last two wins
It's fun to see how the worm turns.Why? They were 1-12 before these last two wins
Because a couple of games a season makes? Try again buddy.
that phrase speaks to how people are taking things not how things really are.
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