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    Derrick White is going to be 30 years old this summer. He was undervalued by the league, but whatever.

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    He's headed there. He's already back to #3 on Givony's Board.
    I really like him. Moves really well for his size, great handles for his size, can grab a board and move immediately, good weak-side shotblocker. Pretty slippery with his handle and agility, which is great. I think his rebounding is a bit overrated due to G League, but at least he rebounds. I think he may have more in his bag as a playmaker thatn we've seen in Ignite. Questions about his defense, but I think he's good, bites on fakes and stuff, but that's seasoning. Also believe his shooting will improve. His form is good and he hit well in high school.

    He could have reclassified and gone earlier from high school, but says he didn't want to skip steps. The Spurs will love that.

    Btw, G League is garbage. It can help individual players develop specific skills, and that's great, but it's horrible to watch, boring and random and barely structured. Even the camera work is bad. Older players can help themselves here, but I don't think it's good for players who aren't drafted yet.

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    I really like him. Moves really well for his size, great handles for his size, can grab a board and move immediately, good weak-side shotblocker. Pretty slippery with his handle and agility, which is great. I think his rebounding is a bit overrated due to G League, but at least he rebounds. I think he may have more in his bag as a playmaker thatn we've seen in Ignite. Questions about his defense, but I think he's good, bites on fakes and stuff, but that's seasoning. Also believe his shooting will improve. His form is good and he hit well in high school.

    He could have reclassified and gone earlier from high school, but says he didn't want to skip steps. The Spurs will love that.

    Btw, G League is garbage. It can help individual players develop specific skills, and that's great, but it's horrible to watch, boring and random and barely structured. Even the camera work is bad. Older players can help themselves here, but I don't think it's good for players who aren't drafted yet.
    He's #4 on my board, but I'd have him top 3 on a Spurs board ahead of Sarr, and i could make an argument for #1. The one thing that kinda stand out besides the things you mentioned is that alot of reports have him listed at 6'10" or 6'11" and while he's thin, his frame is pretty good. I could see him adding enough mass to play the 4 in a few years. He's perfectly interchangeable with Sochan on the defensive end, and if he can shoot like he did in high school (which I'm not sold on yet), he's interchangeable on the offensive end as well.

    In this draft, he's got to be in consideration with our top pick.

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    He's #4 on my board, but I'd have him top 3 on a Spurs board ahead of Sarr, and i could make an argument for #1. The one thing that kinda stand out besides the things you mentioned is that alot of reports have him listed at 6'10" or 6'11" and while he's thin, his frame is pretty good. I could see him adding enough mass to play the 4 in a few years. He's perfectly interchangeable with Sochan on the defensive end, and if he can shoot like he did in high school (which I'm not sold on yet), he's interchangeable on the offensive end as well.

    In this draft, he's got to be in consideration with our top pick.
    Shooting is definitely the swing skill, but I have no reason to think he won't get better there. And, yeah, definitely, he looks (and says he is) about 6'10" or 6'11". With how he moves, and some good hops, that's excellent. Great frame and athleticism for that size.

    I keep seeing him as a Franz Wagner lite. That's a great archetype if he's not too far behind him.

    Really don't know where I'd rank him. And my wish list for the Spurs would be different than a general mock. I find it impossible to rate Topic but think he needs to slide down. Sarr may be good, but I don't list him for the Spurs (that high), and I'd rather take Buzelis than Risacher. Just believe his has more possibilities and potential than Risacher, who I think is a bit wysiwyg.

    I'd be very happy to see teams take those other players and have Buzelis drop a few spots. I do have him top 5 right now.

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    One thing I like vis-a-vis Sochan is they're both really fast for their size. Can put a lot of pressure in transition and drives.

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    I think so, too. He's got a lot more upside than Shephard or Dilly.... he's got a lot more downside, too
    Yeah can't say I'm too excited about taking a Dave Kingman swing where it's either strikeout or home run, but much more likely the former. Really not excited about any low floor guy like him. Feel similar about Topic too.

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    Ivisic/Kolek as guys to take in early second or trading back up for late first are ones i really like

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    One thing I like vis-a-vis Sochan is they're both really fast for their size. Can put a lot of pressure in transition and drives.
    Sochan isn't fast and he isn't that big for a PF at 6'8.

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    Shooting is definitely the swing skill, but I have no reason to think he won't get better there. And, yeah, definitely, he looks (and says he is) about 6'10" or 6'11". With how he moves, and some good hops, that's excellent. Great frame and athleticism for that size.

    I keep seeing him as a Franz Wagner lite. That's a great archetype if he's not too far behind him.

    Really don't know where I'd rank him. And my wish list for the Spurs would be different than a general mock. I find it impossible to rate Topic but think he needs to slide down. Sarr may be good, but I don't list him for the Spurs (that high), and I'd rather take Buzelis than Risacher. Just believe his has more possibilities and potential than Risacher, who I think is a bit wysiwyg.

    I'd be very happy to see teams take those other players and have Buzelis drop a few spots. I do have him top 5 right now.
    Franz is my comp for him as well. Both guys can make passes in transition with either hand that most players can't.

    I always just do a general Big Board because I know timvp is going to put together a breakdown on his Spurs BB, but I wouldn't have Sarr, Holland, or Williams as high on a Spurs centric board as I do on my general one.

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    Yeah can't say I'm too excited about taking a Dave Kingman swing where it's either strikeout or home run, but much more likely the former. Really not excited about any low floor guy like him. Feel similar about Topic too.
    The downside scares me as well on Collier. It's mitigated a bit if we end up with two picks. I think Collier has a much greater bust potential than Topic though. Topic is a guy who I expect to shoot better in the NBA than he has in Europe, much like I thought NSJ would shoot better from 3 in the nba than he did at Arkansas.

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    Thankfully not realistic but Lebron coming to SA to ride Wemby's coattail would be a nightmare.

    Not sure why some of u fantisized on him

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    Explain me the diff with europe where they play against men too then?
    Dont follow the euro league to compare. NBL has a next stars program with the NBA that allows players like Sarr to come to play pro ball here instead of college..

    Larmelo Ball came out of that program.and yes so did Josh Giddy.

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    no more ing Baylor players in the lottery. And I'm a Baylor alum. Walter has bust written all over him.
    I said Missi, not Walter. A legit 7-footer who moves with his fluidity and has his upside (just started playing basketball a couple years ago) shouldn't be overlooked because of where he went to college.

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    Dont follow the euro league to compare. NBL has a next stars program with the NBA that allows players like Sarr to come to play pro ball here instead of college..

    Larmelo Ball came out of that program.and yes so did Josh Giddy.
    This board is under rating Sarr. A couple of guys in here out smart themselves trying to go against the general consensus on a player and end up convincing others in here.

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    I would be shocked if Sarr is not going to be the number 1 pick...

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    ing stud. Kyrie reincarnated. Showed a preview of what’s to come with Wemby

    Can’t believe he’s compared to “Nikola Topic”

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    This board is under rating Sarr. A couple of guys in here out smart themselves trying to go against the general consensus on a player and end up convincing others in here.
    dude still cannot dribble or shoot.

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    Man I’d be stoked with either Dilly or Sheppard with that Raptors pick. Both can play the 1 spot for the Spurs albeit very different players.

    Hopefully one or both are still there at 7.

    Good thing for the Spurs is the Blazers and Grizzlies who are projected to pick 5-6 are guard heavy and need wings. Hornets are 4 could be a dark horse to take Dilly or Sheppard.

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    ing stud. Kyrie reincarnated. Showed a preview of what’s to come with Wemby

    Can’t believe he’s compared to “Nikola Topic”
    Kyrie he says…

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    I really like him. Moves really well for his size, great handles for his size, can grab a board and move immediately, good weak-side shotblocker. Pretty slippery with his handle and agility, which is great. I think his rebounding is a bit overrated due to G League, but at least he rebounds. I think he may have more in his bag as a playmaker thatn we've seen in Ignite. Questions about his defense, but I think he's good, bites on fakes and stuff, but that's seasoning. Also believe his shooting will improve. His form is good and he hit well in high school.

    He could have reclassified and gone earlier from high school, but says he didn't want to skip steps. The Spurs will love that.

    Btw, G League is garbage. It can help individual players develop specific skills, and that's great, but it's horrible to watch, boring and random and barely structured. Even the camera work is bad. Older players can help themselves here, but I don't think it's good for players who aren't drafted yet.
    I have a feeling Risacher and Buzelis are pretty high on the Spurs' board, possibly top 3 both of them. I don't think either of them will be available by Toronto's pick, but I if there's a chance to grab both, I wouldn't be shocked if that's exactly what they do rather than pick up a PG.

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    ing stud. Kyrie reincarnated. Showed a preview of what’s to come with Wemby

    Can’t believe he’s compared to “Nikola Topic”
    Why do you have Trae on your avatar pic? We'll get a discount Trae by picking Dilly with the Raptors' pick.

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    I have a feeling Risacher and Buzelis are pretty high on the Spurs' board, possibly top 3 both of them.
    Probably. Again, no idea how to rank Topic. Sarr is a 'nice to have,' but no sense in using an incredibly high draft pick on a Nerlens Noel who has to come off the bench.

    I might rather go for Castle before Topic.

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    Why do you have Trae on your avatar pic? We'll get a discount Trae by picking Dilly with the Raptors' pick.
    This is correct. If you really want Trae Young make sure you get Dillingham instead. He won't cost you $60 million a year and jack up all kinds of stupid shots.

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    dude still cannot dribble or shoot.
    He's got ways to go as far as shooting, but he's not horrendous (about 30% from 3 & 70% from the line, last I checked). But he CAN put the ball on the floor, the guy is super agile and coordinated, has excellent mobility and can keep up laterally with wings. If the Spurs buy into his shot having a chance to develop, I think he could pair with Wemby very well, where on defense Wemby would operate more as a rim protector and Sarr would guard on the perimeter, and possibly the opposite on offense given Wemby's incredible improvements from 3.

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