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    nets favored by 9.5 against memphis today

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    ah more phobic childishness still here after I've been gone for a while.

    awesome stuff. keep torpedoing the rep of the message board guys youre doing great.
    Drink draino you fat

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    It's hilarious the two boys telling people to basically kill themselves are also social justice white knights

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    Samanic, Johnson, Walker, White, Branham, and Wesley were all picked 18+.
    Samanic was an absolute no-name literally noone knew about, but for some reason RC was obsessed with him.
    Thybulle, Clarke, Grant Williams were drafted after Samanic and before Keldon.
    Then Claxton and Gafford got drafted in early second round.

    Lonnie was a reasonable pick, ridiculous athlete with a picture perfect jumpshot, didn't work out.
    But then again Huerter, Okogie, Grayson Allen, Anfernee Simons, Moritz Wagner, Shamet, Timelord Williams were seven straight picks after him that turned out to be way better players.

    Even if Primo wasn't an exhibitionist, it was obvious he was a bust.
    Out of all the years Spurs decided to favor foreign talent, they unexplainably decided to pass on Sengun.
    Or even Trey Murphy who would be a perfect 3-D wing for this team.

    Besides instant evaluations that are pretty questionable, I think you have completely unrealistic and frankly backwards expectation of what a good hit rate is.
    Samanic and Primo were picks noone had in their mocks and attempted masterstrokes by RC or whoever made the final call.
    Masterstrokes which ended in two wasted first rounders.

    Frankly anything after about the 8th pick expecting much above a coin flip is way above average hit rate.
    Obviously you can't get them all right and it eventually worked out because PATFO got beyond lucky with Wemby, but you can't sell me the narrative of coin flips if the front office keeps making Hail Mary picks noone else would've made.

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    It's hilarious the two boys telling people to basically kill themselves are also social justice white knights

    two peas in a pod

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    Drink draino you fat
    It's hilarious the two boys telling people to basically kill themselves are also social justice white knights
    I’ll just leave these consecutive posts here…

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    Samanic was an absolute no-name literally noone knew about, but for some reason RC was obsessed with him.
    Thybulle, Clarke, Grant Williams were drafted after Samanic and before Keldon.
    Then Claxton and Gafford got drafted in early second round.

    Lonnie was a reasonable pick, ridiculous athlete with a picture perfect jumpshot, didn't work out.
    But then again Huerter, Okogie, Grayson Allen, Anfernee Simons, Moritz Wagner, Shamet, Timelord Williams were seven straight picks after him that turned out to be way better players.

    Even if Primo wasn't an exhibitionist, it was obvious he was a bust.
    Out of all the years Spurs decided to favor foreign talent, they unexplainably decided to pass on Sengun.
    Or even Trey Murphy who would be a perfect 3-D wing for this team.



    Samanic and Primo were picks noone had in their mocks and attempted masterstrokes by RC or whoever made the final call.
    Masterstrokes which ended in two wasted first rounders.



    Obviously you can't get them all right and it eventually worked out because PATFO got beyond lucky with Wemby, but you can't sell me the narrative of coin flips if the front office keeps making Hail Mary picks noone else would've made.
    The revisionist woulda coulda is great but at the end of the day the numerator and denominator are not bad.

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    I’ll just leave these consecutive posts here…
    You're really dense

    There's a reason why I told him that. I'm not going to go over the history over T Pork. You should know it, you've been here long enough.

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    The revisionist woulda coulda is great but at the end of the day the numerator and denominator are not bad.
    As I said, I've got no problems picks other than Samanic and Primo.
    Those two were inexcusable. Especially Primo with Sengun being a sure thing, more or less.

    It's not revisionist history if the entire NBA space was wtf-ing at those picks.

    Still, the point is that Spurs are average at drafting right now. It's not what it used to be.

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    You're a really dense

    There's a reason why I told him that. I'm not going to go over the history over T Pork. You should know it, you've been here long enough.
    Yeah, that is a favorite of T Park's.

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    I get annoyed when so many people repeat the same crap about how our players are awful that everything sucks that Branham, say, is a piece of and needs to be traded immediately and Collins needs to be shot in the head.

    I also get annoyed when some idiot uses words like nig.

    It seems very clear that Toronto operates in certain ways. They talk about what they're doing all the time.

    This fanbase is much too stupid, petulant, and frankly just doesn't deserve what this franchise has done. That's not being a sniffer. There's enough to criticize.

    But if you're put off by someone getting incensed bu brain dead group think of the worst kind, I don't know what to tell you. Because there's a load of it and it deserves to be attacked.
    Dude, you need to chill. Take it from someone that has taken on the entire board many times with my internet shtick of being pedantic and the biggest smartass possible, the key is to never take it personal. We do this for fun and entertainment, even when getting into a heated debate it is really important to never lose track of that.

    If you really get that worked up over what people say in here, maybe the best thing for you it would be not to log in that often, tbh. Now, if you get off to having an entire board against you and telling them to "kill themselves", then carry on. As long as you keep in mind that this is just for fun and it isn't really that serious, tbh.

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    That's exactly why I've been a PATFO critic for years now. Somehow a lot of people here want to hold players accountable, but when the supposedly GOAT coach and the best front office in the NBA with the best player development program in the league fails and underperforms for years, everything is all good. This organization was viewed as the best in all sports and they aren't even the best in the NBA anymore.

    If they are really the cream of the crop, they will set Wemby up for a 3-peat.

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    That's exactly why I've been a PATFO critic for years now. Somehow a lot of people here want to hold players accountable, but when the supposedly GOAT coach and the best front office in the NBA with the best player development program in the league fails and underperforms for years, everything is all good. This organization was viewed as the best in all sports and they aren't even the best in the NBA anymore.
    well they can make it up to us this offseason.With two potential lottery draft pics this draft,And some cap space this summer.
    Hopefully we get back a decent roster and back to the right direction of being compe ve and improving and winning.
    If not,Heads gotta roll,Starting with our gm.

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    As I said, I've got no problems picks other than Samanic and Primo.
    Those two were inexcusable. Especially Primo with Sengun being a sure thing, more or less.

    It's not revisionist history if the entire NBA space was wtf-ing at those picks.

    Still, the point is that Spurs are average at drafting right now. It's not what it used to be.
    Bandwagoning other people agreeing with your incredulity is not really an argument. Saying we should have picked Sengun over Primo is precisely revisionism. The Spurs do not have to compete against that. They have to compete against the rest of the NBA.

    Most drafts have only about 20 or so players that can muster a positive VORP after a rookie contract. 2-5 that become All Stars at all and they are heavily slanted to picks 1-6.

    handwaving at the two failures doesn't demonstrate anything.

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    Bandwagoning other people agreeing with your incredulity is not really an argument. Saying we should have picked Sengun over Primo is precisely revisionism. The Spurs do not have to compete against that. They have to compete against the rest of the NBA.

    Most drafts have only about 20 or so players that can muster a positive VORP after a rookie contract. 2-5 that become All Stars at all and they are heavily slanted to picks 1-6.

    handwaving at the two failures doesn't demonstrate anything.
    Idk how to put this nicely, but even though I'm fairly new on this forum compared to yourself, I'm somewhat of a veteran when it comes to textbook forum smartasses like yourself and you really need to stop it.
    It's been three straight days and three different topics that you keep twisting every reply of mine, moving the goalposts and more or less changing the subject just because you simply have to be right.

    I honestly got no motivation to engage into it any further.
    I've said my bit and backed it up with arguments about why PATFO shouldn't be seen as a perfect front office anymore, you still think it's 2003, let's just leave it at that.
    Have a nice day.

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    But why?

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    Idk how to put this nicely, but even though I'm fairly new on this forum compared to yourself, I'm somewhat of a veteran when it comes to textbook forum smartasses like yourself and you really need to stop it.
    It's been three straight days and three different topics that you keep twisting every reply of mine, moving the goalposts and more or less changing the subject just because you simply have to be right.

    I honestly got no motivation to engage into it any further.
    I've said my bit and backed it up with arguments about why PATFO shouldn't be seen as a perfect front office anymore, you still think it's 2003, let's just leave it at that.
    Have a nice day.
    We can agree to disagree but you are putting out assertions and whining when challenged. If you do not like PATFO fine, you are welcome to your agenda.

    The Spurs success rate is over 60% drafting 11th and later. That is far above league average.

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    The only picked I think they royally screwed up was Primo but every other pick I could see the reason they picked that person and most NBA had given good grades on past drafts.

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    fck u memphis

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    dillon brooks did them in

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    well they can make it up to us this offseason.With two potential lottery draft pics this draft,And some cap space this summer.
    Hopefully we get back a decent roster and back to the right direction of being compe ve and improving and winning.
    If not,Heads gotta roll,Starting with our gm.
    wrong thread

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    on the bright side, if memphis was going to win a game, doing it against the nets is the best version of that.

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    how did the Nets lose to a bunch of G-League players?

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    That's one of the few game we can be ok with a memphis win, the nets are now only one win ahead of toronto.

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    That's one of the few game we can be ok with a memphis win, the nets are now only one win ahead of toronto.
    Exactly. You guys should probably stop living and dying with each game, considering there’s roughly 1/4 season left.

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