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    If the Raptors get the 6th pick and aren't in love with the players available then, I wonder if they would consider trading that pick to the Spurs in return for a minor asset and extinguishing the future obligation. It would basically be removing the top 6 protection, but after the Raptors find out where they pick.

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    If the Raptors get the 6th pick and aren't in love with the players available then, I wonder if they would consider trading that pick to the Spurs in return for a minor asset and extinguishing the future obligation. It would basically be removing the top 6 protection, but after the Raptors find out where they pick.
    Chinook and I discussed this earlier in the season and I think there might be something there especially IF Toronto has aspirations to make their picks available to make further trades (otherwise the first pick they can trade is 2028, if they did this, then next season they could trade a '25 if they wanted).

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    And before the season started alot thought they wouldnt be top worst 6 this season.Yet here we are.
    yes here we are. after a midseason trade of siakam and injuries to poeltl and barnes

    so yes. if they have catastrophic injuries or trade barnes, they could find themselves near the bottom again, like i said

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    Chinook and I discussed this earlier in the season and I think there might be something there especially IF Toronto has aspirations to make their picks available to make further trades (otherwise the first pick they can trade is 2028, if they did this, then next season they could trade a '25 if they wanted).
    Really good point that this pick makes it harder for them to shop other picks. Another reason why they might want it to go out this year.

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    I agree with this mapping. It’s why I’m also rooting for WAS to get the first over all pick. My sense is they’ll feel pressured to take Sarr there, taking away our main threat at taking the beat pg of the draft before the spurs pick.

    assuming the spurs get both picks, to me the question then is: if Risacher is gone by the time they pick (say 3-5), do they take the next best wing with their natural pick or pull the trigger on the PG to be safe?
    I don't know if the Wizards will feel pressure to select Sarr specifically (Topic?), but they are seemingly the least likely bottom feeder to select Risacher.

    If the latter scenario occurs, unfortunately I think they'll go Buzelis or Williams over Sheppard with their natural pick.

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    I don't know if the Wizards will feel pressure to select Sarr specifically (Topic?), but they are seemingly the least likely bottom feeder to select Risacher.

    If the latter scenario occurs, unfortunately I think they'll go Buzelis or Williams over Sheppard with their natural pick.
    Fair enough. I was assuming that with Deni, Kispert, and Bilal they’d pass on using another resource on a SF, and instead go for a C or PG. And if that’s the case, and they pick #1, that they wouldn’t reach for one of the PGs. But who knows…

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    Fair enough. I was assuming that with Deni, Kispert, and Bilal they’d pass on using another resource on a SF, and instead go for a C or PG. And if that’s the case, and they pick #1, that they wouldn’t reach for one of the PGs. But who knows…
    Coulibaly is probably the only one that's long for them and it's far too early for them to worry about fit (though if Risacher is as suspected he'll be a universal fit), but they'll probably want a more dynamic player.

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    Coulibaly is probably the only one that's long for them and it's far too early for them to worry about fit (though if Risacher is as suspected he'll be a universal fit), but they'll probably want a more dynamic player.
    they just signed Deni to a 4 year extension pretty recently. he's under contract with no outs thru the 27-28 season

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    they just signed Deni to a 4 year extension pretty recently. he's under contract with no outs thru the 27-28 season
    I'm well aware. He's on a team friendly contract and becoming a young veteran on a team just starting a re-build yet not teeming with draft capital. You do the math.

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    memphis lose u fckers

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    Assuming that NOLA’s salary crunch concerns are real, who says no to this trade:

    PEL: 8, 33, & CHA FRP (w/minimal filler)
    SAS: Herb Jones & 24

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    If NO is in a salary crunch why are they trading the very good player on a great salary?

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    If NO is in a salary crunch why are they trading the very good player on a great salary?
    Because they aren’t trading Zion (37M), BI (36M) or CJ (33M), and want to open up space to give Murphy the big extension he’ll command?

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    Assuming that NOLA’s salary crunch concerns are real, who says no to this trade:

    PEL: 8, 33, & CHA FRP (w/minimal filler)
    SAS: Herb Jones & 24
    Doesn't NO also get the Lakers pick currently 14? I'd rather get Jordan Hawkins and the 14'th pick.

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    Doesn't NO also get the Lakers pick currently 14? I'd rather get Jordan Hawkins and the 14'th pick.
    Yeah, they currently have two FRPs this draft (14, 23). I assumed they wouldn’t want a 3rd, which is why my proposal gives them a little more value for Herb with the CHA pick but also allows Spurs to keep a second FRP this draft by basically upgrading 33 for 23 (aka the Thad Young).

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    Yeah, they currently have two FRPs this draft (14, 23). I assumed they wouldn’t want a 3rd, which is why my proposal gives them a little more value for Herb with the CHA pick but also allows Spurs to keep a second FRP this draft by basically upgrading 33 for 23 (aka the Thad Young).
    The 14 pick could have some value, the 23 has little value.

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    Because they aren’t trading Zion (37M), BI (36M) or CJ (33M), and want to open up space to give Murphy the big extension he’ll command?
    They aren't trading Herb Jones. Yall believing garbage but have fun.

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    Another win for Memphis, ouch

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    Whoa, what was that lineup for Philadelphia? They were playing Cam Payne a lot of minutes.

    Memphis plays really well for their roster.

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    just shows what a roster wright has rn.

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    Assuming that NOLA’s salary crunch concerns are real, who says no to this trade:

    PEL: 8, 33, & CHA FRP (w/minimal filler)
    SAS: Herb Jones & 24
    No thank you

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    They aren't trading Herb Jones. Yall believing garbage but have fun.
    No kidding. If they are going to unload anyone for cap relief, I'd imagine it's Murphy. Jones is locked up at a bargain of ~$13.5 per for the next three seasons and Murphy is going to command a pretty good number after next year.

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    No kidding. If they are going to unload anyone for cap relief, I'd imagine it's Murphy. Jones is locked up at a bargain of ~$13.5 per for the next three seasons and Murphy is going to command a pretty good number after next year.
    . Trey Murphy is making a whopping $3.3M. It doesn’t matter what he WILL be making, because that doesn’t relieve your current problems. If you sign him to that next deal, you’ve only compounded the issue. That $3.3M is not a lot of 2nd apron relief.

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    ^ exactly, they only have so many ways to shred the salary their ownership seems keen on doing. They’re stuck with CJs figure ($33), not sure Nance (11M) has positive value these days, and I suspect they’d roll the dice on seeing if, at half the cost, Dyson can do 85% what Herb does.

    There was definitely smoke around this at the trade deadline.

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    Am I missing something or reading it wrong? The tax line is projected at $172 million next season. The Pels are at $148 million in salary not including Valanciunas. With his cap hold of $23 million (assuming he re-signs around that number), they would still be right below the line and $18 million under the second apron.

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