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Just gave you a couple in the same line…
weird experiments like Sochan PG
weird linups and rotations at key moment of the game
Bs injuries with min restrictions
probably more Im not thinking about rn but that’s already 3 easy ways to soft tank
wall of text full of non sense..you are comparing a 19 y/o situation with 24 y/o David Robinson who played what 40 mpg ?
oh btw great ing result with no ring until Tim came to town 10 years later. Absolute failure of a comparison
Just gave you a couple in the same line…
weird experiments like Sochan PG
weird linups and rotations at key moment of the game
Bs injuries with min restrictions
probably more Im not thinking about rn but that’s already 3 easy ways to soft tank
Probably because there is no example of a unicorn like Victor.
That’s not a soft tank, it’s a willful hard tank.
They also have countless draft picks that a competent GM should be able to use and 2024 is so weak that it’s not going to bring much and will need years of development
if you still think a 4-5 years plan is fine you’re delusional
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im talking about the process of developing a 1st draft pick.
There’s never been rookie that had to learn NBA without any veterans to help
there never been a rookie best offensive and defensive player of his team (even if Wemby is spécial there has been others in the past)
again I’m not against the process I’m against the radical and pretentious way it’s been done.
Come on mate at least try to follow so i don’t have to repeat all the time…^^
I don’t like the personnel the dev is being done with/to. I don’t see what bringing a Brogdon or Jones would’ve hurt our draft picks but it’s have allow spurs and Victor to gain a lot of time on the process.
this is by very far the least talented roster I’ve ever seen. There’s very little potential, no shooting no playmaking …
it’s so unnecessary and slows down the process way too much
Do you realise PATFO sera most of this team as the core of the futur spurs??
it’s insane
the you on about? 🤣. What hobby? Ive been a Spurs fan for years, this isnt a hobby. I went through years of watching this team lose, tease, win tremendously and now lose again. If reading hurts so much, you need a new hobby.
again process of developing a first round pick is probably not adapted because he is such unique prospect. Do you remember a first round pick where we not sure what position or style of play is more adapted ? Pop let him figure out during 3 months, what franchise would have given him this luxury ? Veterans are nice and all but with no veterans Victor enjoyed 35% usage rate and freedom. You can discuss what it is best for the franchise but for Victor development this season could not have been better
who said they will be most of this team core in the future ? The only other starter is Vassell and he is the only one with a significant contract, Kelton Jeremy can be role players, you have a back up pg and some folders. Not sure what are your expectations for being able to win a first ring but Spurs have cap space, draft picks and time. I don’t get all the ing about this season especially not from a Victor fan perspective
I agree with the points u make bud. So I assume ur missing mine
what prevented the spurs to do the same process all while preparing the future roster?
With the roster we have there are too many players to change and preparing last summer with a short term (2-3y) PG or vet would’ve been perfectly doable.
what “bothers” me (it’s just bb lol) is the poorness of the roster. The best player after Wemby (Vassell) is quite poor and as much handicaped as Wemby by the absence of a few vets and playmakers.
the rest has nothing to do starting in NBA
I know a lot of u are fond of Sochan, I’ve been waiting and watching and I still don’t get it. Whatever he brings on D is more than cancelled by his offense and inability to shoot.
anytime Sochan is on the floor it’s a green light for opp coaches to double team Wemby!
Anyways we’ll see, I’ll gladly admit if I’m wrong but this roster sucks so much it’s absurd.
How old are you? Let me guess, mid-20’s. You didn’t watch David Robinson play. He was an absolute stud his rookie year with stats and impact comparable to what Victor has done this season. But you’re right, David was 24 years old - not 19. Way to make my point for me while typing your giggling emojis. The reason the Spurs didn’t win a Championship for 10 years had little to do with David Robinson & everything to do with boneheaded decisions by Bob Bass (letting Rod Strickland walk in free agency w/o getting anything in return & turning down a trade for Charles Barkley are just 2 examples).wall of text full of non sense..
The Spurs should have prioritized surrounding a 19 year old Victor with better talent and vets. Wemby did his part. He showed up with a positive at ude, with a willingness to work & most importantly, a desire to WIN. The Spurs did next to nothing. That’s why Victor should feel cheated.
And you literally think that's the part i was referring to lolWhat a great argumentation…
i litterally just reminded u what u posted
You get it. The younger fans fall in love with the new guys whether its justified or not. There is one legit player on this team and it’s Wemby. Everyone else is expendable and easily replaced.I agree with the points u make bud. So I assume ur missing mine
what prevented the spurs to do the same process all while preparing the future roster?
With the roster we have there are too many players to change and preparing last summer with a short term (2-3y) PG or vet would’ve been perfectly doable.
what “bothers” me (it’s just bb lol) is the poorness of the roster. The best player after Wemby (Vassell) is quite poor and as much handicaped as Wemby by the absence of a few vets and playmakers.
the rest has nothing to do starting in NBA
I know a lot of u are fond of Sochan, I’ve been waiting and watching and I still don’t get it. Whatever he brings on D is more than cancelled by his offense and inability to shoot.
anytime Sochan is on the floor it’s a green light for opp coaches to double team Wemby!
Anyways we’ll see, I’ll gladly admit if I’m wrong but this roster sucks so much it’s absurd.
I don’t see what spurs could have done differently while preparing the future roster, spurs did not make any major moves that would jeopardize the future. They picked Vassell, he is no Tyrese but 10 other teams passed on him (I agree with the points u make bud. So I assume ur missing mine
what prevented the spurs to do the same process all while preparing the future roster?
With the roster we have there are too many players to change and preparing last summer with a short term (2-3y) PG or vet would’ve been perfectly doable.
what “bothers” me (it’s just bb lol) is the poorness of the roster. The best player after Wemby (Vassell) is quite poor and as much handicaped as Wemby by the absence of a few vets and playmakers.
the rest has nothing to do starting in NBA
I know a lot of u are fond of Sochan, I’ve been waiting and watching and I still don’t get it. Whatever he brings on D is more than cancelled by his offense and inability to shoot.
anytime Sochan is on the floor it’s a green light for opp coaches to double team Wemby!
Anyways we’ll see, I’ll gladly admit if I’m wrong but this roster sucks so much it’s absurd.
Biggest spurs assets are picks, cap space and Victor and some ok players. This season is great. Now victor does not like losing at all, spurs probably need to speed up their initial plans but they wanted to know what they have in their hands before committing now they know
if you read what I wrote as a diss to David I’m not sure what I can tell you
better talents and vets to do what ? Barely miss the POs while giving up future flexibility and picks ? I see the big picture and you don’t that’s about it.
as for my age you are slightly off I started rooting for the Spurs because of David, most under appreciated players of all time
What about for ex going for Brogdon or Lyle Jones? Cheap and experienced who would’ve brought a lot to Wemby and Vassell. + we’ll have to get a proper PG anyways, why not go for a cheaper and shirt term efficient solution rather than a more risky more expensive solution like Trae?I don’t see what spurs could have done differently while preparing the future roster, spurs did not make any major moves that would jeopardize the future. They picked Vassell, he is no Tyrese but 10 other teams passed on him (
Biggest spurs assets are picks, cap space and Victor and some ok players. This season is great. Now victor does not like losing at all, spurs probably need to speed up their initial plans but they wanted to know what they have in their hands before committing now they know
we’d have vet/decent PG and we’d keep our 25 picks AND focus on other positions like wings shooters and bigs all while waiting for either the dev of a drafted PG or better opportunity on the market than Trae …
As u said biggest Spurs assets are picks, but if we’re going for a top PG it’ll cost our best picks!
One more reason to go for an intermediate solution, who I know has its risks (Brogdon is fragile) but gives us not only the leadership playmaking we need but allow us to keep our best picks in 25
also we’ll have to disagree on “Collins is fine off the bench…”
Not sure it’s the younger fans, most popologists are vets on ST
But I do think indeed that fans tends to get too quick emotionally attached to players/personalities and often take a lot of time to open their eyes.
Lastly the “Pop factor” is super strong as much on the fanbase than most medias. Almost a taboo to dare question the genius of PATFO
son you don't see me or others whining about what some basketball player will or won't do in five years from now. Y'all have been crying since the beginning of the season because of whatever reason. Kawhi must have really done a number and some of you gals.
I remember both of u Brazil and tmtcsc from way back, we're probably about the same age
I'll add even more context for the Prime Robinson era being derailed by injuries, cheapness, and bad decisions after everything was in place.
That 93 series against the Suns ... No lie I think the Spurs come back and win that series if Antoine Carr doesn't shred his ankle in game 4. He was averaging like 16 and 8 that series and had to be replaced by JR Reid. Not that Reid was the worst ever in that series, but they needed Carr
Anyways
Spurs really screwed up when listening to Brown and getting Sydney Green and Pressey who were washed, and then the cheapness on Strickland caused a cascade of bad draft picks and trading away picks to catch up when injuries struck and thus they never had the young players to develop and step up.
First round Picks traded for bums, Green, Reid, Smith
Second rounders spent on points who couldn't cut it, Whitney, Knight
The current Spurs blew it with Zollins ... Are they going to have to chase now to make it up? Is Wright looking for more Primos or another Samanic like Buzelis to fail with? Going to try and prove his approach worked and it was bad luck but a good process?
I referenced David because he and Wemby’s stats are almost identical and Wemby is 5 years younger. In 1989 the franchise thought surrounding their NBA-ready, prized rookie with better talent was important. Apparently they didn’t feel the same way about Victor and that’s the most disappointing part.if you read what I wrote as a diss to David I’m not sure what I can tell you
better talents and vets to do what ? Barely miss the POs while giving up future flexibility and picks ? I see the big picture and you don’t that’s about it.
as for my age you are slightly off I started rooting for the Spurs because of David, most under appreciated players of all time
You can get a vet who doesn't take up minutes. That's what Caldwell Jones was for. I loved Mamu last year but they could have found an old vet on a cheap deal to help manage the locker room.
its gotta happen this offseason...I dont see any potential with this team to grow together.Alot of these guys have no talent
or iq...One of the worst rosters made.Gotta gut this whole roster.
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