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They do seem to fall out of trees for the Spurs more than anyone else. PATFO didnt find Wemby, he was gifted. Everyone who they found in the last 5 years looks very expendable, at best, unless its coaching making them look bad.
And Jamal makes $31M. At the end of the day my biggest concerns about Trae are, in order:
1) his salary
2) his defense
3) his rumoured unlikeability with his teammates
Also, I would like to have dejounte back. His contract is fantastic, he plays d, not sure if he can be an actual lead guard but between him and Vassell it would be a big backcourt that can, at least theoretically, cause all kinds of issues on d.
They do seem to fall out of trees for the Spurs more than anyone else. PATFO didnt find Wemby, he was gifted. Everyone who they found in the last 5 years looks very expendable, at best, unless its coaching making them look bad.
Yeah, I like Murray with Vassell. I prefer Trae more, but Murray has advantages as you said. Murray issue in Alt is that he can't guard SG effectively. He is better and harassing smaller guards and then punishing them in transition. So Alt vision Murray as secondary playmaker with Trae, while taking on the better defensive assignment. One of the issues with Trae, you need a legit 2 size player to play with him, and Murray just can't do that.
Here is the thing, I actually like Fultz and Tyus Jones being the next starting PG. They will come in 10mil cheaper and most importantly, won't cost assets to get. Then use those assets to splash for a legit SF like Bridges for example. Looking forward, I find it easier to find a starting calibre pg than a SF.
Edit* Also, I think the Trae Young rumours are legit.
people don't seem to understand that you need offense too. The Spurs are one of the bottom 10 teams in offense. Our biggest issue is, that there's nobody who has the pull up ability that makes defenders go over the screen. This makes it easier for said player to drive, collapse the D and kick out to open shooters. Dejounte ain't that type of player, although I'd also welcome him back.
Someone did the math after last year’s lottery, and the odds to grab all three of David, Tim, and Victor were 0.16%
Good karma gifted in return for Pop's wokeness?
Probably don't think to far into it. The likely you exist has more zeroes.
Yes, that’s exactly what happened
Yeah and good luck checking every box no matter how patient they are and how many assets they possess.
Fair enough. I go back and forth on this myself. Ideally, I'd prefer they not have to resort to either, but sometimes cir stances dictate what you should do. It's why I expect them to pursue whichever the Hawks move this off season.
SA: Hey, are you interested in trading DJ?
ATL: No, but we’re looking to move Trae.
SA: No thanks.
ATL, to everyone: we’ve talked to SA about a Trae trade.
White as white can be but you used to have a little e in your life.
I mean what do you mean? Is it possible to build a contender with Wemby and Trae? 10000000000000000000%. Is it a guarantee that a team built off those two would be unstoppable? of course not. Who made that claim?
People have been stating it would be an unstoppable pairing. Not necessarily win a le but unstoppable offensively. I don’t necessarily agree with it based on what I saw in Lillard and Giannis. I would imagine Trae would be significantly less effective with the all in wembys hands and the spurs will be worse off (esp in the long run) if the ball is in Trae’s hands instead of wembys hands.
Can they build a contender around wemby and Trae? I think it’s possible but it would be hard, especially with the money involved. They would still have to get a SF and a complete over haul of the bench. Sochan would likely have to be upgraded to a big with better perimeter offense and better rebounding (hope he can learn to be one). There would be little cap room for this if we have Trae, wemby (max extension) and Vassells contract in place.
I mean, they are all just opinions... not guarantees, right? I don't know about unstoppable, but it would project to be very good. Whether it is the right "very good" or if the defensive issues would be overly problematic are fair questions though.
I've posted this in other threads, but the cap situation with Trae+Max Wemby+Devin really isn't that bad (around 70-72%) of the cap. It compares favorably to other big 3/big 4 situations around the league. The Spurs would also still have a variety of incoming FRPs to help balance the cap table. The question would be whether the Spurs will be okay with being over the cap (hopefully they are and we don't go through a early DRob era cheap ownership phase). Really, if Vassell is going to be part of a "big 3", his contract is really helpful to that situation. Personally, I'm not sure he's fully earned that deal yet, but the signs are he is on the way. If he does continue on the path he is going (and I think a better PG will help him tremendously, maybe as much or more than it will help Wemby) then his contract ends up being a tremendous value.Can they build a contender around wemby and Trae? I think it’s possible but it would be hard, especially with the money involved. They would still have to get a SF and a complete over haul of the bench. Sochan would likely have to be upgraded to a big with better perimeter offense and better rebounding (hope he can learn to be one). There would be little cap room for this if we have Trae, wemby (max extension) and Vassells contract in place.
Lastly, it doesn't really matter if it is Trae or some other max player (say, Mitc for example), it's going to be the same situation. They'll still be 70-72% of the cap, and the Spurs will still have to find a competent 3 (hopefully with this year's pick) and significantly upgrade the bench (the TOR pick could really help here).
Summarized: these issues are going to be the case no matter what. To me, the real question around Trae is whether he is the right guy (fair debate) and how much you're willing to give up (another fair debate). I do say that he is going to ultimately cost more than many on this board think - and that alone may make it not worth it. There is a very fair argument that DJM is the better acquisition (though I'm not giving ATL back what they gave us, maybe only the worst of SA/ATL '25 and the worst of SA/ATL '27 - essentially giving us three straight years of swaps - plus CHA)
Probably same with any specific 3 1st overall picks, if you don't group the rest into one set and those three into the other.
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...a-18939581.php
I don't know if there is any substance behind that quote but I quite like it. Spurs can't just do their rebuild with the draft. If there is a good trade or free agent opportunity, they had to take it. A full draft rebuild will likely be too slow with Wembanyama already being that good.
This. Gonna need to pull out all the stops and support the draft picks with experienced players.
Try to watch the clip (pre game interview). It sounds more like the usual smart ass Pop trying to get away from a question.
basically a « maybe yes maybe not » type of answer.
If you listen to him in pre game interviews where he dares taking time to answer sometimes, Pop is in a long process mode.
If it was up to him he’d love to tank another season imo
yeah, i mean why can't pop just tell us right now who they have on their draft board and what FAs or trades they may have recently considered? any other coach would have.
I'll say this: If this team was a 5 card draw hand, you'd throw 4 cards down.
The fact that Pop didn't outright dismiss the question of accelerating the re-build should tell anyone wondering what their intentions are this off season.
It wasn't long ago he was saying the usual "we can't skip any steps", "it takes time; look at OKC", etc.
I think they’ll be somewhat active but I don’t think it will be for Trae anymore. Just saw Trae unfollowed Wemby on IG. People say that’s stupid to think anything of it but these are the times and such things are a big deal among 20 year olds.
Sure.
Try not missing the point next time tho
Exactly.
I’m not expecting much change for next season. Same core same low IQ basketball same playmaking issues.
Pop looooves his development
huh. i wonder why he would unfollow wemby?
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