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    The follow up to this is that if the front office bucks their trend and ends up taking an undersized point guard like Sheppard and especially Dilly with their own pick, it means that they have strong confidence that he’s going to be absolutely godly on offense
    The Spurs are not likely to draft Dillingham with their past emphasis on players who have size and can play defense.

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    The Spurs are not likely to draft Dillingham with their past emphasis on players who have size and can play defense.
    Yes, I agree which is why I said if they do end up violating that emphasis and drafting him anyway, it is an indicator of just how high they think his offensive potential is

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    Don’t know why so many people here are high on Castle. He’s got a bad looking shot and is, at times, afraid to shoot when he has space. This draft blows, but he’s really uninspiring.
    Doubt Castle will ever become a high scoring pg but he brings a solid all around game outside of being a high volume scoring treat. He will be able to play some at the 1 or 2 and the Spurs will like that flexibilty.

    Spurs should team him with a high volume scoring pg and it can work as a three guard rotation with Vassell.

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    Doubt Castle will ever become a high scoring pg but he brings a solid all around game outside of being a high volume scoring treat. He will be able to play some at the 1 or 2 and the Spurs will like that flexibilty.

    Spurs should team him with a high volume scoring pg and it can work as a three guard rotation with Vassell.
    So like Trae Young?

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    I get Knecht has been good and looks complete, but drafting a 23 year old seems completely out of step with the Spurs recent draft philosophy.

    Recent Philosophy seems to be:

    • Young,
    • Decent feel - some dribble pass ability, regardless of position
    • Mostly not caring about shooting (Developable skill? Guessing evaluate shooting motion),
    • Size for position (particularly PG),
    • Not much care for advanced stat performance
    • Draft an Alien if possible.


    I don't think that's set in stone, but the Spurs have probably got a process for evaluating that they trust decently. I could get Knecht as a mid first pick, don't get him in the mid lottery.

    As PGs, Topic, Collier and Castle all fit that. Cody Williams and Buzelis fit at SF.

    Second round picks, I think there's more flex.

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    I actually agree with rascal here.

    Here is Castle vs. Anthony Black vs. Cason Wallace in college stats:

    https://tankathon.com/players/compar...-cason-wallace

    Really similar outside shooting with Black, which ain't great. I like Castle's form better, though -- smoother and faster, while Black had to load up to get his shots up. He's shooting .400 from deep this year for Orlando, which is crazy.

    Definitely questions about starting Sochan and Castle together, but Castle has a lot of skills that will be useful. The defense would definitely improve.

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    I get Knecht has been good and looks complete, but drafting a 23 year old seems completely out of step with the Spurs recent draft philosophy.

    Recent Philosophy seems to be:

    • Young,
    • Decent feel - some dribble pass ability, regardless of position
    • Mostly not caring about shooting (Developable skill? Guessing evaluate shooting motion),
    • Size for position (particularly PG),
    • Not much care for advanced stat performance
    • Draft an Alien if possible.


    I don't think that's set in stone, but the Spurs have probably got a process for evaluating that they trust decently. I could get Knecht as a mid first pick, don't get him in the mid lottery.

    As PGs, Topic, Collier and Castle all fit that. Cody Williams and Buzelis fit at SF.

    Second round picks, I think there's more flex.
    I wonder how they feel about Knecht and agree they'd have him lower on their board.

    A little while ago, I was chewing on the idea of older rookies who were more ready to contribute right away - as a way of raising the floor for a Keystone Kops team of puppies tripping over themselves. But they actually look much more credible right now. Maybe fool's gold, but the team looks better.

    Some problems I have with Knecht. I think the team is thinking in terms not of the next three to five years, but the next ten. It's hard to believe Knecht becomes more than he is now. A dominant, high-usage scorer. And is that what we actually want? If he gets figured out, what else does he do? What happens if he can't scale his usage down?

    I don't think they'll mind getting an older rookie, but one that fits a mold.

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    The Spurs are in the bottom 10 for 2p, 3p, and eFG%. They’re actually tied for second-worse in 3p%. They are in desperate need of shooting, especially from the lead guard and wing positions. I’d think it’d be borderline negligent to blow one of two top ten picks (which you spent a year of Wemby’s career tanking to get) on a horrible shooter like Castle. His form is beyond ugly, he’s skittish, shoots almost sub-30%, and is in the mid-70s FT wise, which doesn’t inspire much confidence that it’ll come around.

    Who cares about past archetypes. Going that route hasn’t yielded much success. The FO needs to change its strategy to suit what’s available with its picks - it’d be incredibly arrogant to select a worse player than the one available just because it suits an archetypical player mold that hasn’t panned out for the team.

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    Defense is a need too. I’d like to see them use their natural pick on a wing who they can mold into a defensive focal point while using the raptors pick on a Shepher/Dillingham type. I also wouldn’t be made with a double wing set of selections (ZR/CW and Matas) and then trying to trade for another guard, or taking a Tyler Kolek type in the early 2nd

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    So like Trae Young?
    Problem with Trae Young is it will be expensive to get him and the Spurs aren't going to give up the draft picks it's going to take to get him.

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    Defense is a need too. I’d like to see them use their natural pick on a wing who they can mold into a defensive focal point while using the raptors pick on a Shepher/Dillingham type. I also wouldn’t be made with a double wing set of selections (ZR/CW and Matas) and then trying to trade for another guard, or taking a Tyler Kolek type in the early 2nd
    You talk Matas but he shoots poorly.

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    You talk Matas but he shoots poorly.
    Fair. I’m operating under the assumption that his problems are more Team Ignite related. If that’s not a fair assumption, I’d scratch him off the list.

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    Defense is a need too. I’d like to see them use their natural pick on a wing who they can mold into a defensive focal point while using the raptors pick on a Shepher/Dillingham type. I also wouldn’t be made with a double wing set of selections (ZR/CW and Matas) and then trying to trade for another guard, or taking a Tyler Kolek type in the early 2nd
    Spurs also need wing defenders and Castle looks to be solid there.

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    PG depth is definitely better than SF depth. Writing is on the wall.

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    By floor general, I mean a guy who can make plays for everyone, set Wemby correctly (lobs and stuff), drive and shoot the 3 (I know that's a lot, reason why no rookie will provide that before several years.)

    Jokic has Murray, Chet has SGA, Embiid has Maxey. Devin is nowhere the same as these guys and is actually not really playing with Wemby. Theyre both doing their things with Devin a shooting guard mostly looking for his go to moves an not really opening up things for Wemby and others. Vassell is not a playmaker.

    Give Wemby SGA and that's another game.
    They are all SG that just grew into that combo role. Giannis has Middleton and Zinger has Brown these are more ballhandling wings. Coming in these guys are not really known floor generals or playmakers.

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    Rissacher and Salaun played against each other the other day and both had poor showings. But no one wants to talk about when these guys have bad games.

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    Rissacher and Salaun played against each other the other day and both had poor showings. But no one wants to talk about when these guys have bad games.
    you do.

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    Everything is a need, tbh. BPA is the way to go.
    Other than Wemby, what do we have that's more or less set in stone for the roster in upcoming seasons?

    Devin as starting SG, second or third scoring option. He'll be here unless we move him in a deal for a legit superstar, which doesn't look likely.
    Jeremy will be the glue guy, utility forward. Most likely off the bench when Keldon inevitably (and hopefully) gets traded.

    Our perimeter/wing defense is non-existant, our shooting is non-existant (despite recent hot streak) and our playmaking is also non-existant.

    Sarr is the only player that isn't a good fit, everyone else would be a good addition if they're actually as good as advertised.

    I'd rather have a point guard similar to Derrick and then a star point forward, but that's not likely to happen.
    And we're not getting one via trade, either. They simply aren't available.

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    Yeah, because I don’t look at these overhyped prospects with rose colored glasses.

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    Yeah, because I don’t look at these overhyped prospects with rose colored glasses.
    you've made an assertion and now it is time for the grandstanding. joy.

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    I actually agree with rascal here.

    Here is Castle vs. Anthony Black vs. Cason Wallace in college stats:

    https://tankathon.com/players/compar...-cason-wallace

    Really similar outside shooting with Black, which ain't great. I like Castle's form better, though -- smoother and faster, while Black had to load up to get his shots up. He's shooting .400 from deep this year for Orlando, which is crazy.

    Definitely questions about starting Sochan and Castle together, but Castle has a lot of skills that will be useful. The defense would definitely improve.
    I like Castle, he's for sure going to make a good pro and I would have been more willing to draft him last year. That said, now that Wemby is on the team I'm less enthused about using a top 10 pick in anyone who projects to be a spacing liability and a connector type, even if he's pretty good everywhere else.

    If we take away marginal rotation guys like Champagnie, Osman and Graham, the only guy who can shoot the 3 better than average at good volume is Vassell, with Wemby and Braham improving but not yet there, Keldon being average at best, and Sochan, Wesley and Cissoko waaaay behind.

    With that in mind, adding yet another long term commitment to a non shooter would be difficult in an era where it's pretty damn hard to put together a winning team with such a damaging handicap, just look at what happens to OKC when Giddey is on the floor, with a team full of snipers around him.

    Castle could be a good catch later down the board if only for talent alone, but I'm a bit worried using one of the last few shots the Spurs will have at adding a core piece on someone who not only isn't a good 3 pt shooter, but arguably even scared to take them.

    And yes, I've been supporting Buzelis and Sarr, but the former shot 43% in HS and I don't find it hard to believe he can get back to that near 40% range, and Sarr is similar to Castle but his rarer archetype makes it easier for me to take on the gamble.

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    you've made an assertion and now it is time for the grandstanding. joy.
    Do you ever ask yourself what the point of your posts are? There’s no value to gain in anyone entertaining your drivel because all you ever do is try to act like a smartass.

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    Do you ever ask yourself what the point of your posts are? There’s no value to gain in anyone entertaining your drivel because all you ever do is try to act like a smartass.
    Nope. There is value to be gained in winnowing out the insipid and stupid.

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    Rissacher and Salaun played against each other the other day and both had poor showings. But no one wants to talk about when these guys have bad games.
    It isn't that no one wants to talk about that, but that probably almost no one got to watch them. As far as I'm concerned, what I've seen from Salaun isn't all too appealing, his frame is great and he's super young but he looks raw and rather stiff, no the type who later on develops into a star. Risacher I do like more, but I've always been noncommittal about him precisely because I don't get to see him regularly to have a strong opinion. The archetype, the length, the shooting, the youth, the iq, are all very appealing, but I like the idea of Risacher more than the actual Risacher, if that makes sense. And I leave it to the FO who actually is doing the hard work to find out whether he's what he's projected to be. It's the defense that is the swing skill for me, if they think it'll translate, I'm on board.

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    Yeah, I have kind of soured on Salaun a bit more interested in maybe getting Knecht or Sheppard if we get Raptors pick

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