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    Seems to have moved him quickly down to 2. I guess he got too many "WTF bro" DMs.
    Sheppard is #2 in his best players list but he's #1 in his mock. Also has Castle #4 to Washington in his mock.

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    Is Risacher losing an inch every month? I could swear early in the season he was supposed to be a 6'11" guy who could shoot threes. Then all the draft sites moved him to 6'10". Lately I had been seeing him listed at 6'9" but now in The Ringer's mock draft they have him listed at 6'8".

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    Nah, man. He really can't get his shot off against a competent defender. He's good at backing up and driving past defenders, definitely, but there's a limit to what he does at that point. As mentioned above, he's taken fewer shots in the paint than Dillingham has total makes, and Dillingham isn't exactly a great finisher.

    Sheppard can absolutely take advantage of a defense that is scrambling and moving around or in transition. What he cannot do is self-create much out of a stand-still. Gravity is what Damian Lillard provides -- drawing multiple defenders to have to handle him. If Sheppard has a competent defender on him, he's not getting his shot off.
    I agree with this. He's not a true advantage creator. I also wouldn't classify him as a movement shooter like Duncan Robinson or Kyle Korver both because of his size and because I haven't really seen him shoot while he's off-balance. What he does seem to be very good about is recognizing how and when to take advantage of small gaps to get open, very quickly recognizing advantage situations, and he seems to be pretty good at utilizing a screen to get himself open. Ultimately, that plays very well into the spurs offensive system and he's an excellent fit for what they try and do offensively. I would have a really really hard time taking him top 3 though, and #1 overall seems absolutely crazy to me.
    I mean he got off his shot in all kinds of different ways here: off the dribble 3, off the move, catch and shoot, strong finishes, acrobatic/contested layups, floaters, 30 footers, heck, even a buzzer beater. I realize this is a career game, but it shows that he has the potential to do it, if given the role.



    With each passing days, I'm leaning towards this guy more and more. He reminds me of Manu a bit, he will do anything you ask of him to win a basketball game. I doubt he doesn't have a 15 years NBA career as a pretty solid role player, at the very least.

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    He thinks Spurs would draft Sheppard ahead of Risacher?
    I really don't see it.

    If Spurs end up with #1 and #7, Risacher and Sheppard is a possibility because I don't see anyone other than Wizards or Jazz picking Sheppard.

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    Sheppard at #1 is effing nuts, but this is the guy who liked Killian Hayes way above anybody in 2020 draft.

    Reed Sheppard is not the player people suddenly think he is. He's a small off-ball shooter who is not a strong man defender. If you can get him at #10 or #12, sure. In this draft, around #6 or #7, fine. But he's not the upside star people are suddenly freighting him with.

    I'm getting really su ious of Risacher, too. He had a poor summer and wasn't the strongest shooter and he seems to be falling down to earth after getting very hot. Returning to the mean. And if he's only a 35% shooter he doesn't do anything else to warrant a high pick.

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    Sheppard at #1 is effing nuts, but this is the guy who liked Killian Hayes way above anybody in 2020 draft.

    Reed Sheppard is not the player people suddenly think he is. He's a small off-ball shooter who is not a strong man defender. If you can get him at #10 or #12, sure. In this draft, around #6 or #7, fine. But he's not the upside star people are suddenly freighting him with.

    I'm getting really su ious of Risacher, too. He had a poor summer and wasn't the strongest shooter and he seems to be falling down to earth after getting very hot. Returning to the mean. And if he's only a 35% shooter he doesn't do anything else to warrant a high pick.
    I'm amazed how small Sheppard looks when I watch Kentucky. Dude looks even smaller than Dillingham.

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    I'm amazed how small Sheppard looks when I watch Kentucky. Dude looks even smaller than Dillingham.
    he's either 6'2 or 6'3 with a wingspan probably no longer than 6'4. he's definitely small, which is why as much as i love the traits he brings, im only exciting about taking him if a really believe he can be a point guard. like, he has to be at minimum an Austin Reaves level pg/distributor

    only other scenario id even consider taking him is if i already took topic and the good wings are off the board. then you could have Sheppard be a bench combo guard who can play alongside any of Vassell/Branham, and even Topic where they can cross-match defensively. Topic probably does better against 2's than 1's anyway given his length

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    KOC and the ringer now have spurs taking Reed at #1. That settles it for me, I retract everything good I said about him, dudes going to be a bust for sure
    That would be certainly have to be the wildest result to a tank job ever, right?

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    I agree with this. He's not a true advantage creator. I also wouldn't classify him as a movement shooter like Duncan Robinson or Kyle Korver both because of his size and because I haven't really seen him shoot while he's off-balance. What he does seem to be very good about is recognizing how and when to take advantage of small gaps to get open, very quickly recognizing advantage situations, and he seems to be pretty good at utilizing a screen to get himself open. Ultimately, that plays very well into the spurs offensive system and he's an excellent fit for what they try and do offensively. I would have a really really hard time taking him top 3 though, and #1 overall seems absolutely crazy to me.
    Sounds like he would fit well into those Floppy sets we would run for Doug all the time.

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    This is a nice draft for Atlanta, for the "it will be impossible for them to improve" crowd.

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    He thinks Spurs would draft Sheppard ahead of Risacher?
    I really don't see it.

    If Spurs end up with #1 and #7, Risacher and Sheppard is a possibility because I don't see anyone other than Wizards or Jazz picking Sheppard.
    It’s not as bad as his Killian Hayes call, so there’s that.

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    That would be certainly have to be the wildest result to a tank job ever, right?
    lol setting Wemby year 1 on fire for Shepperd and Holand

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    lol setting Wemby year 1 on fire for Shepperd and Holand
    Not even that, it's for Sheppard and Salaun in their mock

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    Not even that, it's for Sheppard and Salaun in their mock
    crofl

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    If the Spurs win the lottery, they are not taking Reed Sheppard.

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    If the Spurs win the lottery, they are not taking Reed Sheppard.
    but when they do, at least we'll have you to explain to us why it was the correct decision

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    but when they do, at least we'll have you to explain to us why it was the correct decision
    I’ll go all Scott and turn on PATFO if they waste a lottery win on a rotation level player.

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    If Reed turns out to be Steph Curry (yeah, he’s likely to not be), will anyone care if he gets selected 1st? If a team is super convinced that he is and it pays off for them, most would call it a genius move afterwards.

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    Sheppard and then Salaun would be a freakin' disaster. Having to cough up $45 million a year for Reed Sheppard on his second contract... omfg.

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    I like how KOC gifted us the best possible outcome for Picks - #1 and #7, and then turns around and drafts an incredibly uninspiring combo. But I guess the graphics are kinda cool. Maybe KOC and their graphics guy should switch jobs. Probably better analysis.

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    Sheppard needs work to become a competent defender.

    0:15 Cannot bother the driver's shot. Admittedly it's a bigger player.
    0:29 Blown by
    0:50 Blown by
    2:20 Tips pass and steals; this is what he's really good at
    2:30 Good man defense by him
    2:45 Absolutely no prayer against Dalton Knecht, who looks like a giant compared to him
    3:00 Can't get through a standard screen, leading to wide-open Knecht three; actually dies on the screen, Malaki-style
    3:18 Not even close to good man defense
    3:58 Blown by
    4:12 Can't handle Knecht, might as well not exist
    4:30 Jesus Christ, man
    5:04 Great block on three-pointer; he's good at this

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    How's Sheppard so high on these mocks if he's an undersized point guard with no actual point guard skills and a bad man to man defender?

    What's his best case scenario? 6'3 Klay with better handles?

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    I like how KOC gifted us the best possible outcome for Picks - #1 and #7, and then turns around and drafts an incredibly uninspiring combo. But I guess the graphics are kinda cool. Maybe KOC and their graphics guy should switch jobs. Probably better analysis.
    I don't understand why the Ringer lets KOC humiliate himself with these featured mocks and big boards when they have J Kyle Mann who is clearly more knowledgable and a better analyst. Then again, we're all talking about it so maybe he did what he aimed to do.

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    Is Risacher losing an inch every month? I could swear early in the season he was supposed to be a 6'11" guy who could shoot threes. Then all the draft sites moved him to 6'10". Lately I had been seeing him listed at 6'9" but now in The Ringer's mock draft they have him listed at 6'8".
    He was measured a year ago at the Nike Hoops Summit:
    Height with shoes: 6’9.5″
    Wingspan: 6’10.5″
    Standing reach: 8’10
    Weight 193 lbs

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