I both don't want a top 1, 2, or maybe even 3 pick, plus I want two lottery picks.
And there are like two players I really like in an admittedly low moment I have for this draft right now.
Picking someone because of what they do in the tournament would be repeating the mistake many teams have done over the years. The Spurs should already have a clear picture of who they want and don't let the hype of a small sample size change their opinion, tbh.
Would an optimistic but fair comp for Shepperd be Fred Van Vleet?
FVV is only 6-0 with a 6-2 wingspan. Gets a lot of blocks this year, 0.8 per game. Majority of his points this year from 3.
Been both a point guard and a combo, starting with Lowry and listed at SG by basketball reference for a couple of years
One single charity case all star selection. Not a supreme passer but seems to get the job done, just overpaid
If Shepperd can get more physical on defense, why couldn't he be FVV but with better shooting? Seems like he can penetrate at the college level without a screen, something Primo couldn't
Exactly my point. If what we’re doing here is a microosm of what the front office is doing, we clearly have targets at this point and let the hype of a sample size confirm it.
Spurs could go a lot of different ways:
a) High floor, contribute now: Sheppard and Knecht
b) Compromise between fit & upside: Dillingham and Buzelis
c) Upside, bad fit: Sarr and Castle
d) High boom/bust: Collier and Holland
e) Need more evidence: Topic and Risacher
As of right now, I'm leaning b
That's actually a pretty good comparisson I haven't thought of before.
Their college stats are even somewhat similar, with the difference of VanVleet being a 4 year product.
Another example that indicates that playing multiple years in college doesn't mean that you have a limited ceiling. Even a 6 foot nothing 10 ppg scorer senior can get into the NBA, become a champion and all-star.
The closer we get to the draft, the more I'm leaning towards these high floor guys like Sheppard and Knecht. Just draft someone that would help Wemby from year one.
Yeah, an illegitimate one.
That's not the point. Legitimate all-star or not, the dude far exceeded expectations. I think we would be more than OK if we come out of this draft with the next Fred Van Vleet.
The ultimate point I'm trying to make is: Brian Wright might need to rethink a bit this strategy of drafting one and done projects that need a lot of development, just because they are supossed to have a higher ceiling, when guys that spend more years in college and show actual production end up having just as high of a ceiling, if not higher.
Wright has been an assistant general manager or general manager in the NBA for almost 10 years
How many decades does he need to be taken seriously?
I said Wright, like I could have said PATFO. It is obvious that these things aren't a one man decision.
I also know you got the point and was just looking for an excuse to keep beating on this weird obsession you have with the Raptors.The is up with that, bro? a Nephew related grudge, do you live in Toronto, did a Raptors employee ed your wife? Why would anyone care so much about such an irrelevant franchise, tbh?
So would you trade the 2 picks plus Atl 27 plus Charlotte pretend 1st plus salary for Trae Young?
I would, but I'm a fan of the fit. If by 2 picks you mean both Spurs 24 picks including Toronto, I doubt Atlanta would do it, they already expect to have 2 picks this year, their own and Sacramento lottery protected.
Many others would not want to see that kind of trade
it is far far away from the worst case scenario.
#1&7 pick for spurs and both busts after many minutes Of playing time
no future assets no playing time for others wasted time wasted salary for high picks
Why not Holland?
He can’t play basketball,but he can jump real high.
A) Need more evidence: every single of these players.
There's nothing that allows us to say Sheppard and Knecht would be "ready to contribute now"... Actually everything, and the mere fact of having zero NBA or pro experience but playing against mostly amateur teens (who will not even become pro for most of them) vs. grown men among the best BB players in the world in the NBA, say the opposite... The fact Sheppard and Knecht can't also be considered as top prospects like Banchero, Chet or even Miller but rather role players, who take much more time to find a place in the NBA, say they certainly wont be ready to really contribute before years, and certainly not more, and actually less, than current spurs players...
Once again we shouldn't make definitive assertments and fantasizing too much about these kids. We just have to watch last year's discussions about the lottery guys and see where they are at now (any year actually). Every young prospect is beautiful in March till june, then the next NBA season starts... Sheppard and Knecht are last year's Gradey . I mean, yeah they could show some interesting things here or there but they wouldn't make this team better in thie first year, actually worth if given plenty playing time.
Simply pick and give consequent playing time to two rookies next season, and it's another crap show.
I disagree with the Holland hate. He has the best motor in the draft class, he gives effort defensively and is improving offensively. He’s in a bad situation, and you could blame him for making this choice, but most of his basketball shortcomings can be excused. I see him as a Cam Whitmore with better defense.
He will be 18 in draft day
18 is fine, more than fine, as long as you’re showing high level abilities, BASKETBALL abilities at that age. He isn’t.
I don't think you can say he can't play basketball lol
he's good and has a lot of tools, the thing for me is that he plays out of control sometimes and the shoot. Imo he's one of the top prospect of this draft.
He’s a lotto ticket in its truest form; too early to tell on him either way for me. I’d bet he carves out a career based on his compe iveness etc…
Imagine this guy thinking this whole season was about drafting a dwarf from Kentucky.
Yeah you are responding to what is essentially a pretentious post. They have this smarmy condescension but little behind it.
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