2024 NBA Draft Thread

[spurraider21]

I guess I'd put it this way, to keep people from pissing themselves:

If Furphy was being posted as a top 3 pick in this draft and Risacher was hanging around the 20s, I'd say this:

"I would rather draft Risacher at #21 than Furphy at #2."

Does that stop the thumbsucking? Does a very basic concept become clearer to you? It should.

i would also prefer to draft the better player at 21 than the worse player at 2

[CGD]

id take over furphy

risacher has "good, versatile defender who can defend smalls" in his range of outcomes

The “bend over” guy is gonna have a field day with this one

[Bruno]

The Spurs can become the best team in the league, and that's not a bad goal. But is that what they want to do during these transition years? It's okay to draft liabilities if they're BPA, because you can use them as capital to trade later on. The Spurs are not close to contending; they don't have to think the guys on their roster now need to be be parts of that future. Moreover, if the Spurs for some reason think they could make a Young-like liability work and that Dillingham is a similar liability, getting him still allows the team to grow around that limitation during a stretch where Young's unlikely to be moved and the Spurs don't particularly need him. Folks know I'm not married to any of the players in this draft, but there are very few flaws any of the prospects can have that would override them being BPA. The team is just too amorphous and in need to talent to worry about such things.

BPA vs best fit argument isn't a binary one, it really should be nuanced and it's always on a case by case basis.
It there is an obvious BPA that isn't an atrocious fit, you go with him.
If there are a group of players with roughly the same level, you look at how they fit instead of going with the slightly better one.

Dillingham/Sheppard are quite bad fit with how I think Spurs should build their team. For example, if Spurs put Dillingham and Castle in the same tier, Castle would be a better option.

[CGD]

BPA vs best fit argument isn't a binary one, it really should be nuanced and it's always on a case by case basis.
It there is an obvious BPA that isn't an atrocious fit, you go with him.
If there are a group of players with roughly the same level, you look at how they fit instead of going with the slightly better one.

Dillingham/Sheppard are quite bad fit with how I think Spurs should build their team. For example, if Spurs put Dillingham and Castle in the same tier, Castle would be a better option.

What does your Top 10 look like right now?

[objective]

???

What kind of hype do you think he's getting? He's late teens early twenties at best in mocks.

(and Risacher gets the same stocks per 36???)

I listen to a bunch of NBA draft podcasts and he has occasionally been touted as a lottery pick on a meteoric rise. I've heard that him being Australian is a big plus because that makes him super tough, you know how tough Aussies are!.

[spurraider21]

I listen to a bunch of NBA draft podcasts and he has occasionally been touted as a lottery pick on a meteoric rise. I've heard that him being Australian is a big plus because that makes him super tough, you know how tough Aussies are!.

probably played rugby in his earlier years!

[Bruno]

What does your Top 10 look like right now?

I quite like for Spurs Risacher, Cody Williams, Buzelis, Stephon Castle, Isaiah Collier, Devin Carter and Tidjane Salaün. Even if I'm not sold on his fit with Spurs, Dillingham is really talented, much more than Sheppard.

For Nikola Topic, I'm in wait and see mode.

[The Truth #6]

Jeremy is building a triple wythe brick wall. Yikes.

Edit: Oops. Wrong thread.

[CorrectCrusader]

Reed Shepphard my beloved

[TheGreatYacht]

I really doubt it but if anyone here has Sarr, either of the Ignite brick layers, or Topic on their draft board… I suggest following Kurt Cobain’s steps.

Sochan is shooting 22% from three since February started. If you don’t want Wemby to get triple teamed nightly and be forced to request a trade after winning under 20 games once again next season then I suggest reevaluating your draft board, stop posting about basketball because it clearly is not your thing, and maybe try a different hobby.

I’d trade the pick for Trae in a second. If for some reason it isn’t then the pick has to be a shooter. No other choice. Dillingham, Risacher, Sheppard. That’s it.

[BackHome]

I am really starting to like the Colorado PG - KJ Simpson, after watching videos of Cody Williams - Not as fast as Dilly but still gets to the rim and much more physical then him and still does a lot of what he does. I would have no problems using our first second round pick on him if we don't select a PG in the first

[TheGreatYacht]

I am really starting to like the Colorado PG - KJ Simpson, after watching videos of Cody Williams - Not as fast as Dilly but still gets to the rim and much more physical then him and still does a lot of what he does. I would have no problems using our first second round pick on him if we don't select a PG in the first

Love that guy. He’s one of the reasons I wanted to move back in the draft with the Raptors pick, if possible. Whoever gets him in the 20’s will get a steal.

Unpopular opinion but I’d like to use the Raptors pick to move back and get an extra pick. Maybe work a deal for both of New York’s late firsts. Not a fan of mock drafts having us pick Cody Williams. He’s not even my favorite prospect on Colorado. That would be KJ Simpson.

Rob Dillingham with our first pick
Ryan Dunn with NY’s 1st
KJ Simpson with NY’s 1st via DAL
Zach Edey with our 2nd rounder

[objective]

I really doubt it but if anyone here has Sarr, either of the Ignite brick layers, or Topic on their draft board… I suggest following Kurt Cobain’s steps.

Sochan is shooting 22% from three since February started. If you don’t want Wemby to get triple teamed nightly and be forced to request a trade after winning under 20 games once again next season then I suggest reevaluating your draft board, stop posting about basketball because it clearly is not your thing, and maybe try a different hobby.

I’d trade the pick for Trae in a second. If for some reason it isn’t then the pick has to be a shooter. No other choice. Dillingham, Risacher, Sheppard. That’s it.

Can't disagree

And Buzelis can't really be counted on as a shooter either. Couldn't shoot as a junior, could shoot as a senior, can't shoot in the g-league

[Chinook]

BPA vs best fit argument isn't a binary one, it really should be nuanced and it's always on a case by case basis.
It there is an obvious BPA that isn't an atrocious fit, you go with him.
If there are a group of players with roughly the same level, you look at how they fit instead of going with the slightly better one.

Dillingham/Sheppard are quite bad fit with how I think Spurs should build their team. For example, if Spurs put Dillingham and Castle in the same tier, Castle would be a better option.

I think we're risking going off the reservation when it comes to how we use the term "fit". In an American context, I would say the term BPA is used most frequently for NFL prospects, and "fit" in that context is used much more specifically to refer to position and archetype rather than skill-set. Like if you have a star running back and the best player available is another RB or you run a 3-4 and the prospect in question is an under tackle. When we're talking about NBA teams, I don't know that "bad shooter" or "poor defender" should be thought about in that same context. Nobody prefers guys suck at those skills. Those are weaknesses that teams have to either feel confident they can fix or scheme around. In that regard, the Spurs are one of the teams that basically has an open roster, and they thus have as much chance to build around a talented player's weaknesses or allow for the time for those weaknesses to improve.

We all have our preferences for how we'd like the Spurs to be constructed, but they don't have to make moves solely to that end. If Dillingham has the same profile as Young but is less developed, he becomes one of the most interesting players the Hawks could get in a Young trade. If that's the case, drafting him and giving him the chance to become a nice trade piece is a smarter move toward the team's ultimate goal than drafting a guy like Castle who might be more likely to fill the immediate hole without the same upside. As I've said before, BPA tends to factor in need and the comparative value of individual skills along with a bunch of other things. When I'm talking about it here, though, I don't basically mean BPA outside of fit. I think it would be more like talent and intangibles rated as "objectively" as possible. Like if they think Sheppard is going to be better than Castle, despite his lack of size and questionable on-ball defense, then pick him. You already factored in those other things the first time, and there's no reason to do it again.

I get the idea that draft boards have tiers in them, but I don't see any justification for having, say, Sheppard at 6 and Castle at 8 but then picking Castle if both are on the board. If they think Castle is better, rank him higher. If Sheppard is still ranked more highly despite the concerns, then he's the guy. That logic is true for me whether we're talking about size, shooting, IQ, "clutch-ness" or whatever else. I'm not tied to any PG and in fact pointed out Castle in one of my first posts in this thread. I'm not trying to speak against him. I just think the Spurs are going to have a chance to pick among a lot of interesting prospects, and I want them to get the best one they can rather than put on fake limits.

[The Truth #6]

probably played rugby in his earlier years!

Or talks to animals like Crocodile Dundee!

[duncan2150]

The only good thing is that portland keep losing and they have a strong schedule remaining. I highly doubt toronto will past them, really unlikely.

[JPB]

The real problem going on here isn't about Furphy or any other player. It's that Risacher is just grossly, absurdly overrated on this thread. He's absolutely not the player a lot of these guys have boosted him to be. And it's gotten so panicky that people get really angry when this messianic exaggeration is even close to pricked with a pin. It's like a version of Trumpism. Risacherism.

Getting totally phantasmagorical

Absolutely no one has done this in the entire forum, quite the opposite. His skills/flaws and limitations and the player he could/couldn't be has been pretty fairly analysed. Stop making stuff in your head and posting nonsense, litterally nobody has been even remotely close to think that about Risacher here. You're out of control and hysterical with your "me against ST" schtick, this is getting ridiculous.

And I have zero doubt you haven't seen one single Risacher game live, stop acting like you were some kind of authority and making definitive judgements all day long about these kids because after one or two freaking unwatchable College games you found a new pet to make yourself look smarter in Furphy who wouln't worth than Risacher...

Absolutely no one in the NBA is thinking that. No, you don't pass on Risacher in the top 3 because you could get freaking Furphy in the 20s... You have no idea what you're talking about, stop acting like you did. There's a reason why one is projected top 3 and the other non lottery... Come back in two weeks, and you'll fall in love with another pet.

[dbestpro]

Edey had a monster game 30-20. He is going to be better in the NBA than most think. His physical play and size is a treat to watch.

[dbestpro]

Getting totally phantasmagorical

Absolutely no one has done this in the entire forum, quite the opposite. His skills/flaws and limitations and the player he could/couldn't be has been pretty fairly analysed. Stop making stuff in your head and posting nonsense, litterally nobody has been even remotely close to think that about Risacher here. You're out of control and hysterical with your "me against ST" schtick, this is getting ridiculous.

And I have zero doubt you haven't seen one single Risacher game live, stop acting like you were some kind of authority and making definitive judgements all day long about these kids because after one or two freaking unwatchable College games you found a new pet to make yourself look smarter in Furphy who wouln't worth than Risacher...

Absolutely no one in the NBA is thinking that. No, you don't pass on Risacher in the top 3 because you could get freaking Furphy in the 20s... You have no idea what you're talking about, stop acting like you did. There's a reason why one is projected top 3 and the other non lottery... Come back in two weeks, and you'll fall in love with another pet.

Bidenism, Bushism, Obamaism, Clintonism, Reaganism, and many more.

[FutureMan]

Edey had a monster game 30-20. He is going to be better in the NBA than most think. His physical play and size is a treat to watch.

He is projected to go in the second round right now. This is probably one of the best 2nd rounds ever IMO and no one is really talking about it.

[Pauleta14]

He is projected to go in the second round right now. This is probably one of the best 2nd rounds ever IMO and no one is really talking about it.

He was projected 15th 1st round recently. His hype is raising

[BatManu20]

Edey had a monster game 30-20. He is going to be better in the NBA than most think. His physical play and size is a treat to watch.

He'll be a bit of a liability defensively in PnR, but he definitely has a role in the league with his size, length and post game. He's likely going in the First Round, especially in such a weak draft class. I predict somewhere between 18-25. We'll see.

[BackHome]

Yeah, there was some talk about a month or two ago that he was going to go in the first as certain team or two really would take him in that round. After March madness I am pretty sure he is going to definitely work himself in the first round - I think your right pick around 18 to 25 sounds about right

[onechance87]

holmes looking good even tho they losing.A big who can shoot and play sum d and rebound

[baseline bum]

I really doubt it but if anyone here has Sarr, either of the Ignite brick layers, or Topic on their draft board… I suggest following Kurt Cobain’s steps.

Sochan is shooting 22% from three since February started. If you don’t want Wemby to get triple teamed nightly and be forced to request a trade after winning under 20 games once again next season then I suggest reevaluating your draft board, stop posting about basketball because it clearly is not your thing, and maybe try a different hobby.

I’d trade the pick for Trae in a second. If for some reason it isn’t then the pick has to be a shooter. No other choice. Dillingham, Risacher, Sheppard. That’s it.

At least there's hope Buzelis can shoot since he was a good shooter in HS and maybe you can blame being on a trash G-League Ignite team for his percentage this season. So wouldn't mind using the Toronto pick on him if he's still there. Holland though no. And god I'd hate to take Topic with the Spurs own pick with how high risk he is with no jumpshot.