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    And how did that go?
    The point wasn’t whether it was the correct decision or not, it was to say that the Spurs are not as predictable in their ways that dismissing the possibility of Dalton becoming a PG for the Spurs is not exactly wise.

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    The point wasn’t whether it was the correct decision or not, it was to say that the Spurs are not as predictable in their ways that dismissing the possibility of Dalton becoming a PG for the Spurs is not exactly wise.
    But I think spurraider21 point was exactly that Dalton at PG isn't a thing, because it wouldn't work. Also, after the monumental failure the Sochan at PG experiment was, I doubt Pop will experiment at the PG position again any time soon.

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    I guess it all depends on what we mean by PG experiment. In some ways, Derrick White and DJM were PG experiments. DW is better suited as a SG and DJM couldn't dribble when he entered the league. He has come off it a little bit, but we saw a lot of Point Branham too. But, I will concede, they were all PGs way more than Sochan, to an infinite degree. I hope you are right, DAF, that Pop will stay away from Point Sochan-type experiments going forward, but I think it is clear he wants a bigger PG. This points to Castle as perhaps our top PG target.

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    But I think spurraider21 point was exactly that Dalton at PG isn't a thing, because it wouldn't work. Also, after the monumental failure the Sochan at PG experiment was, I doubt Pop will experiment at the PG position again any time soon.
    “Isnt a thing” and “it wouldnt work” are again, fan statements. I think sometimes we all view our own thoughts and opinions so highly as if we control destiny or decide it that this is silly to argue about.

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    lol Knecht as a pg wtf you guys smoking
    The future? To clarify, hybrid was the night before.

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    Keyonte George was a surprise point guard. It's really about proficiency in the pnr as for what I'm referring to, something DV hasn't taken major leaps at, but to me Dalton may be better at. To me it's progress. He could be the SF with versatility.

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    This points to Castle as perhaps our top PG target.
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    No. More. ing. Teenagers
    Here are a list of the non-teenagers projected as FRPs in this draft:

    Dalton Knecht
    Donovan Clingan
    Kyle Filipowski
    Devin Carter
    Ryan Dunn
    Kevin McCullar
    Bobi Klintman
    Terrence Shannon Jr
    Jared McCain
    Oso Ighodaro
    Tyler Kolek
    Kyshawn George
    DaRon Holmes II

    Knecht is the only one that won't get you laughed out of the building if you take with a Top 5 pick, and even that is questionable. Better hope that TOR pick doesn't convey

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    Tankathon has every team drafting Sarr with the first pick except the Spurs who draft Topic. Someone at Tankathon believes Topic is the top player for the Spurs.

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    OK
    Since I rarely watch college what makes Dalton any different than say Doug McDermott

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    Tankathon has every team drafting Sarr with the first pick except the Spurs who draft Topic. Someone at Tankathon believes Topic is the top player for the Spurs.
    All this means is that someone at Tankathon realizes the Spurs already have a franchise C and need a PG. I doubt the staff of TaT has any kind of inside line to the Spurs FO.

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    Guys, actually watch these teams and players play? Dalton Knecht is not a lead guard. He's not a point guard. He's not going to be your point guard. That's not his skill set. That's not what he does. That's not what he's going to do in the NBA.

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    Tankathon has every team drafting Sarr with the first pick except the Spurs who draft Topic. Someone at Tankathon believes Topic is the top player for the Spurs.
    Tankathon has teams pick according to fit and need.

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    OK
    Since I rarely watch college what makes Dalton any different than say Doug McDermott
    If you're looking for a Doug McDermott, the player most like him may be Johnny Furphy.

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    That moment you realize the Spurs haven’t been tanking all season… this record is just the product of their terrible roster construction and coaching decisions…
    What do you think tanking is? You're never going to see players tanking; their next contract depends on their performance, and the whole league's watching... Tanking is done by the FO and the coaching staff, by putting together bad rosters and putting out bad lineups... The difference between tanking and being bad, is the intent behind the decisions made.

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    That moment you realize the Spurs haven’t been tanking all season… this record is just the product of their terrible roster construction and coaching decisions…
    Uh... no?

    Well, yes, there are serious problems with the roster.

    But why don't you understand that the team was doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO?

    They said they wanted to figure out how Wembanyama worked and what worked with him. By now, it's pretty clear they have a strong idea of what worked. They tried a jumbo lineup with another big next to him and tried to get Keldon and Sochan in the same starting lineup. Obviously this didn't work, but they had to slowly learn what did... so they can move forward with one of the most alien players we've ever seen.

    Gaddamn every time I come to this forum I come away intensely frustrated by the supposed fanbase here. You're smarter than this.

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    What do you think tanking is? You're never going to see players tanking; their next contract depends on their performance, and the whole league's watching... Tanking is done by the FO and the coaching staff, by putting together bad rosters and putting out bad lineups... The difference between tanking and being bad, is the intent behind the decisions made.
    Do you think there is a difference between an FO and coaching staff putting together a bad roster and putting out bad lineups on purpose, and doing so because they think the roster and lineups will actually work?

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    Uh... no?

    Well, yes, there are serious problems with the roster.

    But why don't you understand that the team was doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO?

    They said they wanted to figure out how Wembanyama worked and what worked with him. By now, it's pretty clear they have a strong idea of what worked. They tried a jumbo lineup with another big next to him and tried to get Keldon and Sochan in the same starting lineup. Obviously this didn't work, but they had to slowly learn what did... so they can move forward with one of the most alien players we've ever seen.

    Gaddamn every time I come to this forum I come away intensely frustrated by the supposed fanbase here. You're smarter than this.
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    OK
    Since I rarely watch college what makes Dalton any different than say Doug McDermott
    He can play on ball. Better vertical. Clutch.

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    Do you think there is a difference between an FO and coaching staff putting together a bad roster and putting out bad lineups on purpose, and doing so because they think the roster and lineups will actually work?
    Yep, it's the difference between murder and manslaughter.

    IMO, PATFO chose to kill this season (murder), vs PATFO was incompetent so this season died (manslaughter).

    On the bright side, this implies that next season (assuming they don't try to tank again, which I think they won't), they can choose not to kill the season, and it should go much better.

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    I think nikola topic might be the best pick for the spurs this coming nba draft..

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    Yep, it's the difference between murder and manslaughter.

    IMO, PATFO chose to kill this season (murder), vs PATFO was incompetent so this season died (manslaughter).

    On the bright side, this implies that next season (assuming they don't try to tank again, which I think they won't), they can choose not to kill the season, and it should go much better.
    Good analogy - and that's my point. Was it murder, or was it manslaughter? How would we even know?

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    We cut Primo, remember?
    So? We have Wemby. He’s better than Sengün. Do you still pine over that girl in HS, the cheerleader, that wouldn’t give you the time of day?

    Walk it off.

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    So? We have Wemby. He’s better than Sengün. Do you still pine over that girl in HS, the cheerleader, that wouldn’t give you the time of day?

    Walk it off.
    No. Just correcting your inaccuracy. Also, the context was evaluating talent, not stalking. More specifically, I was mentioning the benefit of not super tanking at the end if it makes Wemby more invested in San Antonio because having a 3rd vs 5th seed might not be a big deal if it is difficult to evaluate talent.
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    No. Just correcting your inaccuracy. Also, the context was evaluating talent, not stalking.
    I like Sengün, and he’s hit his 90% percentile outcome. I was on him for a minute, pre-draft. It’s still ridiculous to be pining over him. That’s like striking out managing Avril Lavigne, adding Taylor Swirt to your artist stable, and obsessing on not managing Avril.

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