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I like him a lot but he'd probably be a reach at 7 if the TOR pick conveys. Could probably trade down into the mid-to-late teens and get him if he was the target.
I’m warming a lot to Filipowski he checks a lot of boxes at PF/C.
I like him a lot but he'd probably be a reach at 7 if the TOR pick conveys. Could probably trade down into the mid-to-late teens and get him if he was the target.
Gimme this Knecht with Raps pick
Don't really see undersized PF as a positional need tbh
So some see Knecht as a McDermott clone, a player they didn't want, but now want to utilize a high lottery pick on Knecht.
His role/ceiling would be capped at 6th man here, due to negative overlap with Vassell.
The way I see it, what have Williams or Buzelis (who I believe to be the most likely selections) proven?
Also, the way it's going they might end up in a spot where Salaun is considered less of a "reach".
"Peculiar off court hobbies"?
Unless they think his ceiling and likelihood of at least coming close is significantly higher than the rest, they don't have time to waste on prospects like this, who are likely to take at least 3ish years to maybe become competent shooters in the best case scenario.
Not advocating for him, but he should be able to guard 1-4 and if the shot ever becomes competent, play more of his natural (by physique) 3 or do so anyway if there's enough shooting at the 4-5.
Watching TEN-PUR, Edey and Knecht to me look like classic great NCAA players who will just be NBA role players
I'd still keep Sochan for the bench if they draft Sarr. He's cheap and doesn't have much trade value so might as well hold onto him another year or two and see if he improves.
Who in this draft has the game to be more than a role player? Buzelis if he becomes a plus from deep....maybe rhe same with Topic for the same reason?
It's a short list..
No argument from me there. I’d be happy using both ours and the TOR pick as trade fodder this offseason. Let someone else fall in love with these scrubs (I type as Edey air balls a FT, then turns around and rejects the out of Knecht).
I’m more interested in adding a role player with our top SRP than I am trying to use these Top 10 picks as building blocks.
Yeah, he is not the sexy pick but your getting a guy who could be a great backup to Wemby and could also play alongside side him in certain situations. In this draft class I will take a a good backup with Raptors pick someone who could be a great backup or even win you some games as a starter if Wemby is out. Also, he has a very high ball IQ and he is a compe or who definitely does not like to loose so he fits with Wemby timeline
Not like the rest of the league doesn't know this draft sucks though, so probably wouldn't get too much in trade.
True, but there will be a handful of FOs who fall in love with their pet cats. Heck, PAFTO might be one of them for all we know.
Not much, but the eye test is kinder on them. Buzelis particularly looks like a more skilled player and fluid athlete, so I'm more comfortable gambling on him eventually putting it all together. What's Salaun's ceiling if it all goes right? Jaden McDaniels? In how long? 3 /4 years? Not too enthused with that idea.
Edey would have gone #1 20 years ago. Great player, wrong state of the NBA.
What a sad draft.
Just draft any dude who can come in and won’t embarrass himself when he’s given minutes off the bat. The Spurs are likely to start the player they draft with their higher pick. He has to come in and command respect.
I think that criteria eliminates:
-Sarr - this dude looks like he’ll go through the Samanic route easily with how he plays basketball
-Cody Williams - probably starts a few games and then the coaching staff will see that he’s still ways off from being a positive contributor
-Castle - nonfactor on offense to the point of being a major liability
iffy:
-Matas or Ron Holland - their gleague stint probably puts them at a disadvantage as far as team play, but if their talent stands out they can make it
-Rissacher - he’d step in and be a minimal contributor by moving offball and catch and shoot threes. His defense will determine if he stays a starter. I’ve said before that he looks like he has stiff hips and poor lateral movement a la McDermott, but if not, then he qualifies
Qualifies:
-Reed Sheppard - for obvious reasons
-Dilly - I think this guy easily shows in practice that he deserves his starter position
-Dalton - for obvious reasons
-Collier - another guy that I think shows in practice that he deserves to be a starter. I think he’ll bully Tre in practice tbh
-Topic - will probably bring his old school game in practice and be a commanding presence as the head of the snake
I didn’t know Zion suited up for NC State
Quite a bit of players, actually, the problem is they all come with huge question marks.
Dillingham can be a Maxey/Garland hybrid, but if he doesn't hit his offensive ceiling he might end up unplayable.
Buzelis has the size, coordination and skills that you hope for in a star, but lacks explosion and absolutely needs to be a good 3 pt shooter in high volume to be worthy of a top 5 pick,
Collier is great at getting to the rim and has some crazy creative finishes, but he often looks like a bull in a china shop and turnover machine that would hinder the development of the other youngsters until he gets it together, which may be in 3/4 years... or never.
Topic is also great at getting to the rim but it's more predicated on speed rather than skill plus it's going to be much harder to do that if you're a sub 30% 3pt shooter who defenders can sag off of. Also, his awesome finishing numbers may suffer a big hit with much better athletes and shotblockers, and he isn't really tested at the highest level of European basketball.
Sarr I actually like quite a bit, but he's also a 30% shooter from 3 who will be unplayable next to Wemby and Sochan if he hurts spacing.
Holland seems much smaller than advertised and his frame isn't ideal, his body says smallish 3 but his game says unskilled 4, so while I love his athleticism and hustle, so if he doesn't improve his shooting numbers (around 24% currently) he might end up a deep bench guy.
With that said, those guys do have a path towards s om or at least high end starters if it all goes right, I might rather gamble on one of them or use the pick on someone more proven (I suggested Zach Collins + Toronto's pick for Avdija + Kispert but got trashed in the comments). Cody Williams, Reed Sheppard and Castle look like potentially quality role players, not bad, but not what you expect from a top pick either. I'd be hard for any of these guys to crack the top 3 in any of the past 10 drafts, to be honest.
Some have posted about Juan Nunez before. There's a No Ceilings video posted a few days ago that has me on board for 2nd Round if he's there. His passing is slick
He maybe stops his dribble too much for some passes, but he's a lot of fun to watch.
Exactly. It would dumb to spend an early pick on discount-Doug when they can just go out and get that type of player in FA (including… Doug). Edey needs to go to Europe.
Yes, but it's those question marks you mention that relegate them to role players until they can erase those question marks. I'm not saying that noone has a path to high end starter, I'm just saying that pathway is murky because of questions marks/holes in their game.Quite a bit of players, actually, the problem is they all come with huge question marks.
Dillingham can be a Maxey/Garland hybrid, but if he doesn't hit his offensive ceiling he might end up unplayable.
Buzelis has the size, coordination and skills that you hope for in a star, but lacks explosion and absolutely needs to be a good 3 pt shooter in high volume to be worthy of a top 5 pick,
Collier is great at getting to the rim and has some crazy creative finishes, but he often looks like a bull in a china shop and turnover machine that would hinder the development of the other youngsters until he gets it together, which may be in 3/4 years... or never.
Topic is also great at getting to the rim but it's more predicated on speed rather than skill plus it's going to be much harder to do that if you're a sub 30% 3pt shooter who defenders can sag off of. Also, his awesome finishing numbers may suffer a big hit with much better athletes and shotblockers, and he isn't really tested at the highest level of European basketball.
Sarr I actually like quite a bit, but he's also a 30% shooter from 3 who will be unplayable next to Wemby and Sochan if he hurts spacing.
Holland seems much smaller than advertised and his frame isn't ideal, his body says smallish 3 but his game says unskilled 4, so while I love his athleticism and hustle, so if he doesn't improve his shooting numbers (around 24% currently) he might end up a deep bench guy.
With that said, those guys do have a path towards s om or at least high end starters if it all goes right, I might rather gamble on one of them or use the pick on someone more proven (I suggested Zach Collins + Toronto's pick for Avdija + Kispert but got trashed in the comments
None of that's necessarily bad. We need better role players than what we currently have. I'm hopeful that our top guy is a role player that can be much more if he can erase his question mark. I wouldn’t mind our 2nd pick (fingers crossed) being someone with a higher floor (less of a question mark) like Knecht or Filipowski.
Definitely think he’ll be there when we pick, whether 2nd or 6th. Only other crap team ahead of us that could use a lead guard is WAS, but even then they have Poole at big money there. But even if they go PG, I have a feeling WAS will irrationally fall in love with Dillingham bc well… it’s WAS.
But should they? Topic is such a wildcard. I do t care for Dilly at all, but I’m really warming to Castle as the top PG option for the Spurs.
I've got him in the same toer with Kolek. Kolek is more refined and Nunez should have more upside to mine. It's more of a "what are you looking for" question. Do you need someone to play minutes off the bench now or someone you 'might' be able to develop into a higher rotational player in 3 years?
Maybe. McDaniels is overrated, but in this draft, if you said to me right now he'll be that in 3ish years, I'd take it and run.Not much, but the eye test is kinder on them. Buzelis particularly looks like a more skilled player and fluid athlete, so I'm more comfortable gambling on him eventually putting it all together. What's Salaun's ceiling if it all goes right? Jaden McDaniels? In how long? 3 /4 years? Not too enthused with that idea.
I see it as unlikely Buzelis or Williams are as good or better and expect a similar development track.
Link? If that's more than a rumor/speculation, he's obviously out as a candidate.
Last edited by TD 21; 03-31-2024 at 05:54 PM.
He looks soft as Collins
I don't follow all these guys like some of you but why isn't Dalton Knecht higher on peoples list?
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