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I’m impressed with his patience and game control.
He's so efficient with his movements and choices. Never really wastes what he's doing or where he's going. If you had to guess who the 19 year-old freshman on UConn is, it wouldn't be him. Well, not sure who you'd pick. Maybe Spencer?
I’m impressed with his patience and game control.
hope we get that raptors pick....Dilly and castle would be nice.Or risacher and castle would be a nice duo as well.
Castle having his best game of the season tonight. He averaged 10.5 PPG on 47% shooting this year (26% from 3). Already has double that tonight. He still can’t shoot for which sucks, but his defense, athleticism, and ability to get to the rim have been apparent tonight. He plays at his own pace and is never rushed, which is pretty rare for a player as young as he is.
Clingan has been really impressive as well. He reminds me of a bigger Mark Williams.
Clingan continues to dominate the tournament on both ends. He’s made himself a lot of money this tournament. He’s just so much bigger and longer than everybody else out there, and he’s surprisingly mobile for his size. His matchup with Edey in the National le Game is gonna be fun to watch. Will be the first time this season he’s not the biggest guy on the floor.
UConn is the better team though and should win it all. Purdue doesn’t have much outside of Edey.
I think the reason Clingan is attractive as a prospect is that he's super effective in exactly the same role he'll have as an NBA player. Be big, control the rim (and the space around the rim as a big boy), come out and set screens and run basic dribble handoffs.
Edey is effective in things that he might not be able to do at the NBA level, which is why he's less attractive, even though he's arguably a better NCAA player.
Edey’s the better offensive player at this level, but Clingan will almost certainly be the better player at the next level due to him being significantly better defensively and much more mobile, especially as a rim-runner. Edey’s slow and will get cooked in PnR in the NBA if he’s played major minutes imo.
what yall think of mark sears getting drafted...Wouldnt mind taking him in the second round.
Yep. I actually expect Edey to win that matchup head to head, but still think Clingan is much more clearly an nba player.
edeys defensive mobility has looked better in the tourney tho.
The journey to Castle's attempting to become a competent shooter is not one the Spurs should be interested in being on.
People focus on defensive liabilities, then ignore offensive ones in a league that skews offense.
Apparently Salaun is now over 6'11'' in shoes, has filled out his frame noticeably and has outstanding off course intangibles. He intrigues as a trade back candidate (Hawks?).
Castle seems like a nice, all around connective piece, but he can't create much off the dribble for himself or others, and his shooting is far away. In a different context I could stand behind it (like I did with Sochan 2 years ago), but now the team already has multiple defensive minded prospects that are spacing liabilities (Sochan, Wesley, Cissoko) and using yet another pick (and a high lottery one) on another guy with the same glaring holes doesn't look appealing to me.
To all the guys jumping on the Castle bandwagon:
1) What role do you see him playing, both in the short and long term?
2) Would you be ok with him being a liability from 3 for at least 2/3 years?
3) Is he compatible with Sochan and, if not, so much better that he's worth setting the others' back?
At the moment, I'm more inclined to go with other prospects over him (Buzelis, Dillingham, Risacher, Sarr, etc).
What does Clingan do better than, say, Kessler, who is struggling to stay on the floor in Utah? He can be a good fit for a specific team looking for a rim protector (like Dallas was last year), but you can probably find a close enough player in free agency without breaking the bank and use a high lottery pick on someone you can't find in free agency.
Last edited by Ariel; 04-07-2024 at 12:06 AM.
All very valid questions.
Eventually you may want him to be more or less the lead guard in the Tre Jones slot. You'd want him to become more of a playmaker, but he does have that ability, as he sets Clingan up a lot. The Spurs - so long as they run a Pop-style offense - don't need a ball-dominant PG. That said, I'm not entirely sure he can be a lead initiator. His handles seem okay, but he doesn't seem to have the speed to totally threaten the rim; he requires strength and spins.
Short-term, I think he and Sochan don't really work on offense. The huge appeal is defense. We get absolutely obliterated by too many guards (have been for years) and getting a big guard who might grow into elite defense is highly attractive.
This was a weird game, though, where he played well but it somewhat proved to me what a problem he would be to draft. I don't even think he's that far from a Cidy Sissoko who has similar strengths and big weaknesses -- although Cidy seems much more chaotic and less polished.
In this draft, it's impossible to have it all. You have to give up something with each candidate. I still have him in my small pile. I like him more than Williams or Risacher. Dunno about Topic. I think I still have Dillingham as my #1 with a drop thereafter. If the Raptors pick comes and Castle is still there, I think I take him and figure it out as you go. We so badly need a defender and we have time to develop the rest.
I wish we'd knew more about his personality (as well as other prospects), it often ends up being a decisive factor in their career successs or not.
TP was alread a sociopath at 18yo and u could feel he had something special, Manu even more for a south american kid arriving in europe.
Quid of Risacher? Any french STers have some infos?
Kessler seems to be more of a whiteside esque shotblock chaser and sells for ever contest, which gives up a lot of points anyway. Clingan is more mature in that way.
it’s kind of like asking why gobert is better than Kessler if Kessler blocks more shots
Castle > Sochan
Sochan is too small for a non shooter at pf and the Spurs shouldn't be stuck on him and not draft players based on having Sochan as a long term option.
I wouldn’t not draft someone because of either Wesley or Cissoko,and Castle is much more of a PG than Sochan. The UConn system of motion just doesn’t use a ball dominant guard.
Wemby and Vassell are the only players worth drafting around. And if there were good enough prospects I still wouldn’t necessarily let Vassell get in the way of that. Nobody else including sochan or whatever should be considered.
We need playmaking, shooting, defense. That’s basically everything.
What are a couple of good/best draft websites with analysis and vids? thanks
Oh god, please, please, please, let’s not waste our precious picks on any more non-shooters. We really don’t need any more members of our 29% three point club do we? Not when there’s decent shooters like Sheppard and Knecht and others there.
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