Spurs trade ideas

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Spurs Get Donovan Mitc

Cavs get Pop, 2024 lotto pick, KJ, Trey Jones expiring.

[onechance87]

would yall trade donovan mitc for devin vassell straight up.

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would yall trade donovan mitc for devin vassell straight up.

immediately.

[itzsoweezee]

Cap for the next season is at $141M, right?
Even without KAT's ridiculous contract, they'd be just 4M under the cap for the next season...with 9 players on the roster.

And Reid will be on an expiring deal. They can decide to contend with him or get something back, as TD 21 said.
They probably need to get rid of both because Taylor isn't paying so much luxury tax for a team that can't really compete...unless they surprise us in the next few months.
Imo, Edwards/Gobert core duo is the way to go forward for them, Conley is also extended for a couple more years.
McDaniels new deal starts the next season and he's on Ant's timeline.

Anyhow, as I wrote a week or so ago, three team deals with the Nets make sense.
Spurs send a FRP and maybe some more smaller assets for Reid.
Wolves get Bridges, Cam Johnson and Cam Thomas, players that are a great fit nex to their core duo. (Maybe DFS instead of Cam Johnson, but you get the point.)
Nets get KAT and that FRP.

Spurs get a perfect PF next to Wemby for a fair price. I wouldn't even be opposed trading away two bad FRPs.
Wolves get replacement wings to surround Ant/Gobert and get rid of KAT's deal in the process. Reid can't be extended, got to cut their losses.
Nets get a hometown kid as a fake franchise player instead of disgruntled fake all-stars and get a FRP. They can't tank and Bridges won't get them anywhere. KAT would at least sell tickets, much like he did for TWolves all these years.

Reid cannot play power forward. His advantage is as a stretch five. He’s not a great defender either. Reid would be an upgrade from Collins, but he’s not the ideal fit to play next to wemby.

[BatManu20]

[buttsR4rebounding]

That doesn’t mean no trades or upgrades. Getting Reid or Brogdan would still yield significant improvement and this would still be true.

[exstatic]

That doesn’t mean no trades or upgrades. Getting Reid or Brogdan would still yield significant improvement and this would still be true.

Or Herb Jones.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Or Herb Jones.

Would be a great pick up as well.

[spurraider21]

Why do people assume the Pelicans are looking to trade Herb Jones one year into a deal that already looks like a top bargain when he’s set to make an all defensive team and bumped his 3pt% to 40?

imo they’re more likely to trade Ingram

[exstatic]

Why do people assume the Pelicans are looking to trade Herb Jones one year into a deal that already looks like a top bargain when he’s set to make an all defensive team and bumped his 3pt% to 40?

imo they’re more likely to trade Ingram

Trading Ingram has its limitations. Few, if any teams have the ability to absorb his deal into cap room, so they’ll have to take back contracts, which doesn’t help their tax problem. It’s the KAT/Naz thing all over again.

[spurraider21]

Trading Ingram has its limitations. Few, if any teams have the ability to absorb his deal into cap room, so they’ll have to take back contracts, which doesn’t help their tax problem. It’s the KAT/Naz thing all over again.

You don’t salary dump your big bargain contracts

[Duncan2177]

That's weird, I thought Wemby wanted to win right away.

[Spurs Homer]

Goodbye wemby, was nice to know you!

[CGD]

Kinda makes sense. EVERYTHING is underwhelming about the 2024 offseason: ty draft, ty UFA crop, and even ty grumpy stars that want out. Why wouldn’t they wait until 2025?

[exstatic]

You don’t salary dump your big bargain contracts

You do if it’s the only way to actually cut salary.

[scott]

Pelicans would just salary dump Nance, who will be on an expiring, if the have to.

But New Orleans actually has $19MM of tax space entering next offseason, so I’m not sure where this idea that they need to cut salary comes from.

[Ariel]

Kinda makes sense. EVERYTHING is underwhelming about the 2024 offseason: ty draft, ty UFA crop, and even ty grumpy stars that want out. Why wouldn’t they wait until 2025?

Every draft has good players in it, even if not stars. If you come away with a couple future legit starters and instant contributors, that's a great draft in my book. Also, you can try to make a more sensible roster by pulling a couple smaller trades, it isn't all black or white. Having all your hopes centered on the 2025 draft sounds like a euphemism for hard tank, and if there was pressure to improve this year, I can only imagine what it;d be like midway through next season if the Spurs are still this bad. Wemby was off the hook because of his rookie status, but if the Spurs stink next season as well, he'll probably catch a lot more heat, that would put his individual awards into question (all star, all NBA, DPOY) and if that's the case he might feel wronged and that isn't a good idea when he's one year removed from extension eligibility.

[scott]

Also worth mentioning that Windhorst just might (most likely) be sharing what he thinks they will do, not some kind of inside information.

In all seriousness, the only part of the comment is the “focus on the 2025 draft” because as everyone else has pointed out, that implies another tank. NOT wanting another tank year seems like the only unifying thing on this message board, save for a few Tank Adventists.

But if you remove “focus on the 2025 draft”, it just sounds like typical PAFTO public statements that probably shouldn’t be read too much into.

On that note - if the Spurs wanted to run back the same team next year, it would be really easy to do so. Cedi is our only UFA. It’s almost like the FO built this team to be able to stay together, which would be sad if true

[spurraider21]

You do if it’s the only way to actually cut salary.

its not tho

[spurraider21]

Pelicans would just salary dump Nance, who will be on an expiring, if the have to.

But New Orleans actually has $19MM of tax space entering next offseason, so I’m not sure where this idea that they need to cut salary comes from.

yeah, they're not desperate. and if they were, herb jones would be one of their untouchables. a team looking to get their books in order is not going to trade away one of their best players who is also cheap. they would trade ingram instead of extending him, imo, if it came to that

[fafo]

Focusing on the 2025 draft can also mean evaluating what they may have with the Hawks, Raptors, and Bulls picks. They can strike gold again, or there could be other stars who are better fits that become available for which those picks could be put to good use in a trade. Unless Trae Young gets traded elsewhere (which would make that Hawks pick even more appealing for the Spurs), they can always revisit that option next offseason or even the trade deadline. Admittedly I would still be concerned if they don't make any significant moves next offseason either, but it's not home run or bust right now. An offseason that includes trying to address areas of need with singles or doubles via draft/trade/FA, a summer of development for everyone, and going into next training camp with better chemistry should make for real improvements next season.

[R. DeMurre]

Herb Jones is beloved in New Orleans, on a bargain contract, and fits that team perfectly as a guy who loves to defend and isn't ever going to complain about not getting enough shots... I understand wanting him for the Spurs, but it just seems so unlikely.

[CGD]

Every draft has good players in it, even if not stars. If you come away with a couple future legit starters and instant contributors, that's a great draft in my book. Also, you can try to make a more sensible roster by pulling a couple smaller trades, it isn't all black or white. Having all your hopes centered on the 2025 draft sounds like a euphemism for hard tank, and if there was pressure to improve this year, I can only imagine what it;d be like midway through next season if the Spurs are still this bad. Wemby was off the hook because of his rookie status, but if the Spurs stink next season as well, he'll probably catch a lot more heat, that would put his individual awards into question (all star, all NBA, DPOY) and if that's the case he might feel wronged and that isn't a good idea when he's one year removed from extension eligibility.

Of course. Not saying they shouldn’t grab a good role player via draft or FA this season. I’m in the camp, though, that they shouldn’t blow their full wad this offseason.

[Dverde]

Spurs will need to bench Wemby to get another bottom 3 record next year.

[CGD]

Spurs will need to bench Wemby to get another bottom 3 record next year.

For next year, I think they'll be content if their natural pick is around #9-10 if it also means some good progression from the youngsters and a 35 win record. I expect ATL and CHI picks will be in that range too, which could mean a serious injection of talent coming in next summer.