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Does this writer have a correct angle?
The Cavs threw last game to manipulate NBA Playoff matchups, and it could haunt them (msn.com)
I wanna draft that ten year old in seven years.
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Does this writer have a correct angle?
The Cavs threw last game to manipulate NBA Playoff matchups, and it could haunt them (msn.com)
That's my question, why can't Sarr and Wemby be in our starting 5. Let Sarr play the stretch 5 Wemby didn't seem to want to play and let Wemby be our stretch 4. Making the Spurs one of the NBA's longest teams regardless of who plays point.
I think we have ample evidence that Wemby close to the basket is beneficial for the Spurs. Bassey might be the spurs big body. Mamu showed a passing pf is right piece.
I have a financial question. Given that it is established that the draft is weak, are there major differences in salary amounts depending on the position of the drafted player? I think so. In this case, is it really in the interest of teams to have high picks when this would imply earning a significant rookie contract over a few years on a player who does not have such great value?
Here is the Rookie pay scale:
1st: $10,132,300
2nd: $9,065,600
3rd: $8,141,200
4th: $7,340,000
5th: $6,646,800
6th: $6,037,000
7th: $5,511,000
8th: $5,048,800
9th: $4,640,900
10th: $4,408,800
Seeing Cody Williams so low on Pelton's analytics-based rerank of the draft was the truth nuke I needed to hear.
But since it's based on pure numbers without eyes and Cody was playing injured is there any chance that skews the data somewhat?
That would make sense to me and could be the main reason they never tanked really, especially the last games
Yeah feels like right after you'd have enough time to look at everyone enough the Spurs starting winning up from the bottom 3.
May be an indicator that they soured on the Sarr, Risacher, Topic top of the class after what they saw. Pretty realistic too, that's life. Tank to get in position for something that never comes to fruition. Reminds me of when Spurs had space but never rented it for deals and couldn't pry one FRP from the advantage. I think that's common with SA and not everything has a story book ending.
I like falling back a little since the top prospects seem so risky this year. No sense in paying a premium for a top 3 with little talent disparity between that range and 6-9ish. In fact some nice stuff around at a discount in that 6-9 range so I love where the Spurs landed in position draft wise and I loved the late season wins as a high note to close the season out. Feels very deliberate when you look at odds, SA falls right around 6-7 and TOR falls around 7-8. Precision drop imho.
Remember, first right of refusal is an asset even if you use it.
Glad to see they see it my way too on these prospects tbh
Thanks. I found that, but it would have to be compared over the years and to other types of contracts. However, the gap doesn't seem that big to me between the first picks and between a big bad contract. The question was rather to know if it was a known fact that certain contracts, even rookie contracts, could be problematic or if even a bad top pick contract could be used as an asset for example in a future trade (or on the contrary, if a top pick in a weak draft was known to have no market value and be a burden in future transactions in the medium term). What's 5M$ between a 1-10 pick while you have some 20M$ bad salaries. Still, it's San Antonio, not GSW, so maybe they think about it.
Maybe the W-L record wasn’t actually being manipulated to land on a specific draft position in one of the worst drafts since 2000. Maybe they just sucked but Wemby got good enough towards the end to overcome that.
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Spurs were sitting players but Wemby was too good when he played.
Somehow the Spurs wanted to fall to 5th because they don't value a higher pick because they didn't want to pay a higher salary is just Spurstalk nonsense.
Wemby wanted to play and wasn't on board sitting like what other teams were doing to their starters.
Sarr will be better than Sochan. You move Sochan to the bench or trade him. sarr gives the Spurs more flexibility with the starting lineup allowong Wemby to move off being strictly a post player which he doesn't want to do.
You can't put Sochan in the low post, he's too small.
Wdym post player? As in post defender?
There's only a few post scorers left in the league. With enough spacing, none will be able to stay on the floor against Wemby except for MVP level players like Jokic and Embiid.
But then again, if Spurs are up against either of those two, you can't have anyone other than Wemby defend them. He's already shown he's better at dealing with Jokic than anyone else in the league.
Wemby should never be moved back to PF.
With that being said, I'd also take Sarr if he's actually the BPA.
Our biggest issue is that everything collapses on defensive end when Wemby sits.
Sarr will surely be a very good defender and rim protector at the very least.
Have him play 18-20mpg off the bench in his rookie year, then we can think about starting him with Wemby if he develops a shot.
If not, just trade him for a better fit.
I'd rather have guaranteed 48 minutes of elite rim protection than any of these no 3, no D point guards.
I think the Spurs were happy to tank at the very end but Victor had no interest in that and they overvalued their sitting players vs Graham and Mamu adding needed skills to play alongside Victor.
Agree
Spurs even sat Wemby against OKC and got destroyed. Spurs wanted to tank but Wemby wasn't happy sitting.
So Spurs played him against Denver and probaly were even surprised they were able to pull out a win there.
Agree
Spurs even sat Wemby against OKC and got destroyed. Spurs wanted to tank but Wemby wasn't happy sitting.
So Spurs played him against Denver and probaly were even surprised they were able to pull out a win there.
The future contracts start getting really, really bad for top draft picks. This was a major problem with Ayton in Phoenix, for example. They wavered about resigning him in the first place, and did so thinking they could move him, which proved to be very difficult until they finally dumped him to Portland.
He's not alone, but shows the problem of very high draft picks who don't really pan out. Also the problem of taking a center very high in the draft, a position that isn't the most important in the league.
These are 100% of the 2023-2024 rookie scale. Players are usually paid 120% of the scale and there will be a slight increase for 2024-2025.
With the latest cap projections, first year of the rookie scale should be this year:
#1: $12.6M
#2: $11.3M
#3: $10.1M
#4: $9.1M
#5: $8.3M
#6: $7.5M
#7: $6.9M
#8: $6.3M
#9: $5.8M
And the total salaries for the 4 years of their rookie contract:
#1: $57.2M
#2: $51.2M
#3: $45.4M
#4: $41.5M
#5: $37.6M
#6: $34.1M
#7: $31.2M
#8: $28.6M
#9: $26.3M
If the top draft pick is such a problem name all the number 1 draft picks that were traded away.
Not sure your point here. If you have a ty top pick then you can't trade them because no one wants them, or you toss them away any way you can. Marvin Bagley, James Wiseman, Anthony Bennett are all in this category. They were completely wasted picks. Other than Bennett, there's a chance the Warriors, for example, might have stuck with Wiseman a bit longer if he wasn't slated to make so much money.
The chances of getting a player in this draft who doesn't match his 1-3 draft slot is extremely high.
Only the 2 first years of a FRP are guaranteed, if you find yourself in an Anthony Bennet / Wiseman situation, you can simply not pick up the option for the 3rd and 4th year. Also, I don't think the Spurs are that worried about short term salary cap, otherwise they wouldn't have rushed to give Zach Collins such a big extension that turned sour oh so quickly. The only thing that should matter is getting as much talent as possible out of whatever picks the Spurs have, I'd rather have them pick sooner than later (and hoping someone else screws up).
Boban hasn't been a serious basketball player for a long time, if not for his personality he'd have been out of the league long ago. Edey may be flawed, but the guy means business. If I had another non lottery pick I might take a flier on him, in the right scheme he could be useful.
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