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    1. Sarr - ATL
    2. Topic - WAS
    3. Risacher - HOU
    4. Dillingham - SAT
    5. Buzelis - DET
    6. Sheppard - CHA
    7. Clingan - POR
    8. Holland - SAT
    9. Castle - MEM
    10. Collier - UT

    That's my top-10 mock as of right now. Subject to change of course. With Topic's injury not being severe, I think he's going to work out well for teams and Washington desperately needs a PG. Think they end up taking him. There's also rumblings in NBA media circles right now that Dillingham is going to go higher than many are projecting. Spurs may not risk anything and just take him at 4 to be safe.
    I'm not surprised if that's true about Dillingham. I think he's going to shred workouts. I wouldn't even be surprised if the supposed Wright grimace during the lottery was due to fear Washington or the Rockets take him first. Dillingham on the Rockets would be a horror show for us.

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    Sheppard seems like a more Spurs-type player than Dillingham. Is the knock that he's not a proven on-ball facilitator?

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    I'm not surprised if that's true about Dillingham. I think he's going to shred workouts. I wouldn't even be surprised if the supposed Wright grimace during the lottery was due to fear Washington or the Rockets take him first. Dillingham on the Rockets would be a horror show for us.
    It would be surprising to see Dillingham go that high because his measurable were not good. 165lbs soaking wet does not bode well for enduring the grind of an NBA season and jump in physicality.

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    It would be surprising to see Dillingham go that high because his measurable were not good. 165lbs soaking wet does not bode well for enduring the grind of an NBA season and jump in physicality.
    I guess we'll keep going over this repeatedly, but measurements don't play basketball.

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    I guess we'll keep going over this repeatedly, but measurements don't play basketball.
    Name a guy that's effective in the NBA at 165lbs and I'll concede.

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    Name a guy that's effective in the NBA at 165lbs and I'll concede.
    Trae Young and Allen Iverson. Ja Morant and Mike Conley weigh 175 lbs. Even Dejounte came into the league at 162 lbs, though he's filled out to 180 since then.

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    I think you're hoping for 50% of Kyrie's talent, with 0% of his craziness, historically speaking.

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    Sheppards advanced stats are insane. Projects +/- is like 11

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    I think you're hoping for 50% of Kyrie's talent, with 0% of his craziness, historically speaking.
    That's doable.

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    This is Dillingham vs. Kyrie in college. Kyrie's advanced metrics were through the roof, however he only played 11 games.

    https://tankathon.com/players/compar...--kyrie-irving

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    Dilly looks like the best natural basketball talent. He will slice and dice up opposing defenses, even nba ones. Kyrie, Iverson, Isiah Thomas (the little one). He will be an amazing offensive force and probably the perfect complement to Wemby.

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    Yeah, I think if Risacher is present at 4, there's no way the Spurs can pass, if as much to please Wemby as anything (if he's genuine about liking him). He's probably going to be fine, but we're not talking a whole lot of upside here. If he can actually defend, that changes things, but his metrics are poor. The lack of rebounding is another part of defense that matters, and the starting lineup is already showing issues in that regard. He's a poor passer, which matters in the Spurs' system. He'll be as ineffective as Keldon is in that regard.

    Right now my best situation might be Castle-Dillingham.

    Risacher-Castle is probably second. Risacher-Dillingham might be third. Back my head keeps saying that losing out on Dillingham will be a big mistake.
    I think if you replace Dillingham with Sheppard, thatś probably a very close scenario to what the Spurs FO would actually go for.
    Targets at 4 are probably Risacher and then Castle. One of them is very likely available there.
    Then at 8 I'd expect them to go with Castle if available, or otherwise Sheppard.
    I don't think Dillingham is their cup of tea, even if Risacher / Castle are taken, they probably go Buzelis, Cody Williams, Holland or Salaun before him.
    Hope I'm wrong though and they go Risacher / Castle / Buzelis at 4 and Dillingham / Sheppard at 8 (I believe Dillingham will be there).

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    I'm not surprised if that's true about Dillingham. I think he's going to shred workouts. I wouldn't even be surprised if the supposed Wright grimace during the lottery was due to fear Washington or the Rockets take him first. Dillingham on the Rockets would be a horror show for us.
    Seen 2 different mocks that were released today that have Dillingham going #3 to Houston. Including this one, that has Clingan going 2 and the Spurs taking Risacher at 4.

    https://collegesportswire.usatoday.c...ge-basketball/

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    Watching the way Minnesota has brought defensive to the table this year and the crackdown on foul hunting gives me some thought as to a rebalancing of the game moving forward and whether defense will make it's long awaited return. If it does, I continue to be intrigued by the idea of Castle and Holland as a combo *if* (and this is a huge, fairly vital, if) you believe you can deliver some of that Kawhi magic and turn them into shooters (reminder for all, Kawhi was a .250 3P shooter in college who immediately turned into a .375+ shooter for us).

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    Kawhi .250 3P% .744 FT%
    Castle .267 3P% .755 FT%
    Holland .240 3P% .757 FT%

    Obviously, comparing to Kawhi is a stretch, since he is definitely an anomaly... but if you think there is the shooting talent locked away inside of Castle and Holland, then that would be quite an intriguing pair to add next to Wemby. Devin isn't a great 1-1 defender, but is a decent team defender, and Sochan has shown the 1-1 flashes, just needs to keep his head in the game.

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    Seen 2 different mocks that were released today have him going #3 to Houston. Including this one, that has Clingan going 2 and the Spurs taking Risacher at 4.

    https://collegesportswire.usatoday.c...ge-basketball/
    I think Dillingham makes a lot more sense for Houston that we originally gave credit for. If Amen is a wing, then Dilly would be a very nice fit behind FVV for a year before taking the reigns.

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    I think Dillingham makes a lot more sense for Houston that we originally gave credit for. If Amen is a wing, then Dilly would be a very nice fit behind FVV for a year before taking the reigns.

    Seen multiple Rockets reporters say on Twitter that the their Front Office are bullish over Amen being their long-term PG of the future. That would probably negate them taking Dilly if true. But if they see him as more of a wing like they did this season, then suddenly PG becomes a much bigger need for them as FVV only has 1-2 years left on his deal. He's clearly not the long-term solution for them at the PG position. Drafting Dilly would allow him to come off the bench for a year (or two if they pick up FVV's option) before taking over as a full time starter.

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    The voting tally for the all-rookie teams just came out. The most interesting part of the result is that it serves as an early judge of peoples’ pre-draft opinions and analyses, from which we can draw useful lessons for this current draft cycle.

    For instance, the inclusions of Lively and Jackson are noteworthy. These were two highly touted prospects in high school who went somewhat under the radar during the pre-draft process mostly due to lukewarm college freshman seasons. This shows that we should not entirely discount players due to one mediocre year, especially if they had strong play before that. This lesson applies this year to players like Ron Holland and Isaiah Collier.

    It’s also noteworthy that Henderson, who was universally beloved during the pre-draft process—with some even going so far as to say two years ago that he could challenge Wemby for the top overall pick (an idea that is laughable in hindsight)—was excluded entirely from this list. This shows that we should be cautious about buying too much into the hype behind a player, no matter how “surefire” a prospect they might seem at first, and that just because someone’s name is mentioned over and over again in the media doesn’t mean they necessarily deserve that recognition. Here, players like Risacher and Sarr come to mind (not saying these guys will bust; just saying we should be cautious about anointing them just because they’re always mentioned on ESPN).

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    Seen multiple Rockets reporters say on Twitter that the their Front Office are bullish over Amen being their long-term PG of the future. That would probably negate them taking Dilly if true. But if they see him as more of a wing like they did this season, then suddenly PG becomes a much bigger need for them as FVV only has 1-2 years left on his deal. He's clearly not the long-term solution for them at the PG position. Drafting Dilly would allow him to come off the bench for a year (or two if they pick up FVV's option) before taking over as a full time starter.
    Amen and Dillingham could work really well. They can both handle the ball, Amen covers for defensive shortcomings, and Dillingham can get lots of reps on offense. The team has managed to cover for Sengun as it is. Thompson has been more effective as more of a PF in small ball situations. They can be pretty flexible.

    Dillingham flat out doesn't work in some team situations, but on the Rockets, well, I don't like that at all.

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    Quite a quiet game from Risacher today with 6 points and 11 rebounds in 25 minutes.

    Next for his team is the semi final against Monaco, who is obviously the heavy favorite.

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    I think Dillingham makes a lot more sense for Houston that we originally gave credit for. If Amen is a wing, then Dilly would be a very nice fit behind FVV for a year before taking the reigns.
    This is exactly my thinking. I would still be very happy with one or both of Risacher and Dilly overall, but I’m very intrigued and scared about a Castle/Holland pairing.

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    Quite a quiet game from Risacher today with 6 points and 11 rebounds in 25 minutes.

    Next for his team is the semi final against Monaco, who is obviously the heavy favorite.
    That rebound total is actually quite encouraging though. What is the game like in France in terms of the physicality on the boards? If I remember correctly, Wemby was a sub 10rpg player for Mets92, right? He obviously turned that into 10.6 rpg his rookie year. If Risacher is a reliable rebounder, that adds another dimension to his game that the Spurs actually are in quite need of (we were in the top half of the league in team rpg, but bottom third in contested reb %)

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    The voting tally for the all-rookie teams just came out. The most interesting part of the result is that it serves as an early judge of peoples’ pre-draft opinions and analyses, from which we can draw useful lessons for this current draft cycle.

    For instance, the inclusions of Lively and Jackson are noteworthy. These were two highly touted prospects in high school who went somewhat under the radar during the pre-draft process mostly due to lukewarm college freshman seasons. This shows that we should not entirely discount players due to one mediocre year, especially if they had strong play before that. This lesson applies this year to players like Ron Holland and Isaiah Collier.

    It’s also noteworthy that Henderson, who was universally beloved during the pre-draft process—with some even going so far as to say two years ago that he could challenge Wemby for the top overall pick (an idea that is laughable in hindsight)—was excluded entirely from this list. This shows that we should be cautious about buying too much into the hype behind a player, no matter how “surefire” a prospect they might seem at first, and that just because someone’s name is mentioned over and over again in the media doesn’t mean they necessarily deserve that recognition. Here, players like Risacher and Sarr come to mind (not saying these guys will bust; just saying we should be cautious about anointing them just because they’re always mentioned on ESPN).
    , it was common to hear that Scoot Henderson was a generational talent for a long time, so good that he'd easily go number 1 in any other draft. People won't admit saying so, but they did. Frontrunning is very common among fans and professionals alike.

    IMO, the high school ranking system is wildly out of whack, you have these self-appointed journalists and a smattering of others ranking players, which then somehow becomes gospel, and these rankings continue having power down the line.

    For the All-Rookie teams, it's pretty fascinating to look at the teams throughout history. A lot of clearly great players are tabbed early, but it's not rare for players to fall off a cliff -- especially the second rounders of course. And then there are clear misses even on first teams. OJ Mayo made first team in 2009 over Eric Gordon, Marc Gasol, and Kevin Love. Brandon Jennings made it over James Harden. Landry Fields and the Spurs' own Gary Neal made first team over Paul George. Willy Hernangomez made first team over Jamal Murray, Jalen Brown, and Brand Ingram.

    It's not that these were misses. It's that these players were legitimately better as rookies. They just fell apart and went nowhere. It's not hard to believe the same could happen for GG Jackson, as the NBA has time to figure him out.

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    Trae Young and Allen Iverson. Ja Morant and Mike Conley weigh 175 lbs. Even Dejounte came into the league at 162 lbs, though he's filled out to 180 since then.
    Tre weighed in at 178 at the draft combine.

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    Watching the way Minnesota has brought defensive to the table this year and the crackdown on foul hunting gives me some thought as to a rebalancing of the game moving forward and whether defense will make it's long awaited return. If it does, I continue to be intrigued by the idea of Castle and Holland as a combo *if* (and this is a huge, fairly vital, if) you believe you can deliver some of that Kawhi magic and turn them into shooters (reminder for all, Kawhi was a .250 3P shooter in college who immediately turned into a .375+ shooter for us).

    College Stats:

    Kawhi .250 3P% .744 FT%
    Castle .267 3P% .755 FT%
    Holland .240 3P% .757 FT%

    Obviously, comparing to Kawhi is a stretch, since he is definitely an anomaly... but if you think there is the shooting talent locked away inside of Castle and Holland, then that would be quite an intriguing pair to add next to Wemby. Devin isn't a great 1-1 defender, but is a decent team defender, and Sochan has shown the 1-1 flashes, just needs to keep his head in the game.
    I saw this from a random Hornets journalist about Ron Holland, and it really made me doubt that he can become a good shooter.

    1 out of 5 of your 3s being airballed/bricked means your shot is fricked.

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    This is Dillingham vs. Kyrie in college. Kyrie's advanced metrics were through the roof, however he only played 11 games.

    https://tankathon.com/players/compar...--kyrie-irving
    Damn, I wouldn’t have thought Kyrie had 30lbs on Dillingham on their respective drafts. I recall Kryrie being super skinny.

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