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    Sochan was drafted for his defense. But agree he isn't a strong defender. Spurs missed on Sochan
    I wonder what type of pick Sochan would get you in this draft? Since it's a weak draft, could somebody in the top 10 trade their pick for him?

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    ESPN's latest mock has the Spurs taking Dillingham at 4 and then Salaun at 8
    I‘m not very high on their mock and also don‘t like the logic and reasoning they use, not only regarding the Spurs. But I wouldn‘t rule out the option that the Spurs will pick Salaun. Spurs might go the save route with Castle at 4 and take the flier at 8.
    btw. he played his last game in France yesterday. Not a good one. 7 points while shooting 1-8 from 3.

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    I‘m not very high on their mock and also don‘t like the logic and reasoning they use, not only regarding the Spurs. But I wouldn‘t rule out the option that the Spurs will pick Salaun. Spurs might go the save route with Castle at 4 and take the flier at 8.
    btw. he played his last game in France yesterday. Not a good one. 7 points while shooting 1-8 from 3.
    salaun is not in my top 10, and i wouldnt be a big fan of taking him at 8. but if its paired with a dillingham/sheppard pick i'll take that outcome

    i would be quite upset with a castle/salaun pairing because imo that is 2 big projects you are taking on (if castle is expected to be a point guard, that is). castle as a defense first, complementary SG/SF is fine, as we was with the huskies, but not someone i would take at #4. castle as a PG feels forced and i really dont see PG ability at this point. he could get there, but i wouldnt expect meaningful contribution at that position from him early

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    Salaun at 8 would suck imo. That's a big reach for him. Kid is super raw and nowhere near ready to contribute. I have him somewhere between 13-16 in a weak draft as a high upside swing. If we reach on him at that spot, I'd be pretty disappointed tbh.

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    Yeah, I don't want to touch Mantas as I don't see him having the handles to play SF, I think he is destined to either player PF or be out of the league. I also don't see him fitting in with Wemby as a lot of his offense would push Wemby out to the 3 ball line. He can't shoot and he does not play physical at all to many times he does nothing on offense or defense he just disappears for long stretches of time
    You know who Matas reminds me of? The European Blake Griffin himself!

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    I wonder what type of pick Sochan would get you in this draft? Since it's a weak draft, could somebody in the top 10 trade their pick for him?
    1. Sochan was a bad pick.
    2. Sochan is a bad player
    3. Wonder if we can trade Sochan for a pick higher than the position he was picked at.

    ...and scene.
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    So can we agree that the best strategy would be to take...

    Risacher->Sarr->Castle->Buzelis/Reed in that order with #4

    ...and take whatever PG you like at #8...or go Salaun if you like to gamble (and got Reed or Risacher with the former pick)?

    ...just don't blow your load on a true PG at #4!?

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    So can we agree that the best strategy would be to take...

    Risacher->Sarr->Castle->Buzelis/Reed in that order with #4

    ...and take whatever PG you like at #8...or go Salaun if you like to gamble (and got Reed or Risacher with the former pick)?

    ...just don't blow your load on a true PG at #4!?
    Who's the true PG? Topic?

    Yikes.

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    1. Sochan was a bad pick.
    2. Sochan is a bad player
    3. Wonder if we can trade Sochan for a pick higher than the position he was picked at.

    ...and scene.
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    This draft is much worse.... that's an important part of the mix...

    And I never said Sochan was a bad player...

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    So can we agree that the best strategy would be to take...

    Risacher->Sarr->Castle->Buzelis/Reed in that order with #4

    ...and take whatever PG you like at #8...or go Salaun if you like to gamble (and got Reed or Risacher with the former pick)?

    ...just don't blow your load on a true PG at #4!?
    No?

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    So can we agree that the best strategy would be to take...

    Risacher->Sarr->Castle->Buzelis/Reed in that order with #4

    ...and take whatever PG you like at #8...or go Salaun if you like to gamble (and got Reed or Risacher with the former pick)?

    ...just don't blow your load on a true PG at #4!?
    if risacher is there at 4, its a snap pick, and then you hope and pray one of the kentucky guys is there at 8

    if risacher is not there at 4, you take the kentucky guy of your choosing (or whichever is left), and then take whatever wing/forward you like from what is left at 8

    imo thats it and that is all

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    Spurs issues

    shooting and defense

    Topic's weaknesses

    shooting and defense
    Sure, but to be fair “Spurs issues” also includes (perhaps most critically) someone who can get Wemby the damn ball.

    That’s the theory of Topic, which most of the other top prospects lack.

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    ESPN's latest mock has the Spurs taking Dillingham at 4 and then Salaun at 8

    ive said a bunch of times that to me the disaster version of this draft is one where we dont come away with any of Risacher/Dillingham/Sheppard (risacher appears unlikely enough to begin with), so this is ultimately an acceptable outcome to me. but its odd that they have the spurs taking Salaun at 8 with each of Castle, Knecht, Williams, and Holland on the board.

    I get that Salaun has unique potential among that group... but he seems like the quintessential "year away from being a year away" guy and i dont think its wise to have guaranteed roster spots going to guys that we likely cant even begin to properly evaluate for 2 years
    I'm good with completely swinging for the fences at #8 if they get Risacher / Dilly / Sheppard with #4 so if Salaun kills workouts I wouldn't be mad. Same for Holland and Williams. I don't believe for a second that Castle will be there at 8.

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    Topic at 4 would be a horrible conservative pick by the Spurs. High chance he drops to 8 if they really want him. The Spurs have to draft Topic(at 8) at discount with his injury.
    lol at “discounts.” The only thing that matters if what the other teams drafting ahead of 8 think.

    It’s analogous to max salaries: no way in Evan Mobley is worth a max on the merits, but you best believe CLE is about to offer him one. There’s no “discount” because he’s behind schedule.

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    PATFO put a lot into these guy's personal workouts and scrimmages during the pre-draft process so it'll be interesting to see who plays well during those workouts and who struggles. Topic might come in and ball out during a scrimmage and the Spurs might fall in love. Same with Sheppard. You just never know tbh. Eager to see how these guys look once they get to SA for their private workouts. That'll tell us a lot more and paint a clearer picture for us.

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    Don't see HOU taking Clingan honestly, unless they plan on trading Sengun (doubtful). Playing them together would draw Sengun away from the basket in PnR, which is the last thing HOU wants. He already struggles at the 5 as is. They would then have 2 guys who don't excel against PnR on the floor at the same time. That's just not a great pairing imo, unless they plan on using Clingan off the bench (doubtful). Would be surprised if the Rockets went that route.

    Think they're much more likely to draft FVV's replacement, whether it be Topic, Reed, or Dilly. The first two make more sense in terms of fit, as Dilly is ball-dominant and you don't want to take the ball out of Jalen Green's hands and have him just standing around in the corner. Remember, Green went off this year after Sengun went down with his injury and he was able to have the ball in his hands a lot more. He finally looked like the elite prospect they drafted 2nd Overall. Doubt they want to stunt that with Dilly. Topic or Sheppard make way more sense imo. But who knows, who they draft will determine the rest of the lottery cause the draft starts at the 3rd Pick this year imo.
    If that’s the case and they stick with Sengun they will always lack a true anchor and rim protector. I think they’re better trading away fools gold Al. They should be able to get a true star if they include him and Jalen Green in a trade!

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    I'm good with completely swinging for the fences at #8 if they get Risacher / Dilly / Sheppard with #4 so if Salaun kills workouts I wouldn't be mad. Same for Holland and Williams. I don't believe for a second that Castle will be there at 8.
    Top 3
    1. Sarr
    2. Clingan/ Risacher
    3. Risacher/Clingan

    Agree if you want Castle take him at 4.

    One or both of the Kentucky guards will be there at 8 or go Buz/Salaun if they are gone, also have Topic.

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    So can we agree that the best strategy would be to take...

    Risacher->Sarr->Castle->Buzelis/Reed in that order with #4

    ...and take whatever PG you like at #8...or go Salaun if you like to gamble (and got Reed or Risacher with the former pick)?

    ...just don't blow your load on a true PG at #4!?
    Honestly, I think the better strategy if Sarr/ZR/Dill go 1/2/3 in some order is to build a package around 4/Keldon/whatever else for Garland.

    And then at 8 take best of left of Castle, Topic, Williams, Salaun. Look to 2025 for your elite wing.

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    Top 3
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    2. Clingan/ Risacher
    3. Risacher/Clingan

    Agree if you want Castle take him at 4.

    One or both of the Kentucky guards will be there at 8 or go Buz/Salaun if they are gone.
    No guarantee of this. I'm pretty confident Reed will be gone by 8. Both could absolutely be gone. Someone like Utah who has multiple FRP's and needs a PG could trade up and jump the Spurs for Dilly or Sheppard. You just never know tbh. That's why you draft your guy at 4.

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    I'm good with completely swinging for the fences at #8 if they get Risacher / Dilly / Sheppard with #4 so if Salaun kills workouts I wouldn't be mad. Same for Holland and Williams. I don't believe for a second that Castle will be there at 8.
    Draft strategy has to be accounted for. The likely scenario is that Risacher is gone in the top 3 but Castle isn't. I agree that Castle isn't there at 8, but I think one of Dillingham and Sheppard would be. It makes more sense to take Castle 4 and then take whoever's left at 8.

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    No guarantee of this. I'm pretty confident Reed will be gone by 8. Both could absolutely be gone. Someone like Utah who has multiple FRP's and needs a PG could trade up and jump the Spurs for Dilly or Sheppard. You just never know tbh. That's why you draft your guy at 4.
    No you can't draft scared. Afraid someone will trade for a player. Both Kentucky guards are not likely to be gone by pick 8.

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    No you can't draft scared. Afraid someone will trade for a player. Both Kentucky guards are not likely to be gone by pick 8.
    Flawed logic. Hoping your guy is going to fall to you at 8 isn't smart. You take your guy at 4, whether they think that's Castle or Sheppard or Dilly or whoever, and then hope for the best with the 8th Pick. You don't say, "We like X player the best, but we think he'll be there in 4 picks so we're going to take Y player instead and hope X player falls to us to maximize value." Draft your guy and hope someone else you like falls to you at 8. That's not "drafting scared," that's just being smart.

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    I wonder what type of pick Sochan would get you in this draft? Since it's a weak draft, could somebody in the top 10 trade their pick for him?
    It’s have to be a good pick in this draft considering that a much much crappier version of him, in Holland, will go Top 8…

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    Honestly, I think the better strategy if Sarr/ZR/Dill go 1/2/3 in some order is to build a package around 4/Keldon/whatever else for Garland.

    And then at 8 take best of left of Castle, Topic, Williams, Salaun. Look to 2025 for your elite wing.
    in that scenario i'd take Sheppard at 4 and then wing of choice at 8. easy flowchart

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    No you can't draft scared. Afraid someone will trade for a player. Both Kentucky guards are not likely to be gone by pick 8.
    You want to draft Castle at #4 because you're scared someone will draft him before #8. It's just how it goes with two such picks.

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