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    Castle/Dillingham is my #1. Risacher/Castle is my #2 and may be even better. I don't think it's any given that Risacher goes top 3, so keep the dream alive.
    My #1 is Risacher + Dillingham/Sheppard

    im more or less split on the Kentucky guys and lean one way or the other depending on how the wind blows

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    My personal Spurs board:

    1. Risacher
    2. Castle
    3. Sheppard
    4. Sarr
    5. Dillingham
    6. Clingan
    7. Knecht
    8. Carter
    9. Williams
    10. Salaun

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    I'm not high on Topic in fact I'm out on Topic but I wonder how the front office views him because I could see the Spurs being very high on Topic while the fanbase is lukewarm.

    If Spurs pick Topic I'm immediately thrilled because it means they value him and think he will work and I trust their vision on this build.

    Also feel like Spurs would love a guy like Cody Williams much higher than the fanbase ranks him.

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    I'm not high on Topic in fact I'm out on Topic but I wonder how the front office views him because I could see the Spurs being very high on Topic while the fanbase is lukewarm.

    If Spurs pick Topic I'm immediately thrilled because it means they value him and think he will work and I trust their vision on this build.

    Also feel like Spurs would love a guy like Cody Williams much higher than the fanbase ranks him.
    I'll go:

    1 Sarr
    2 Risacher
    3 Castle
    4 Sheppard

    I think the Spurs have to get one of those in the top 4 and then #8 is easy. Dillingham (not paired w/Sheppard), C Williams (agree high upside pick), Knecht (instant + shooting), Clingan (pains me to say, but probably the most marketable asset at least), Buzelis (brings legit SF/PF size but dubious shooting).

    Holland is becoming too hard to trust re the shooting. Carter/Salaun are reaches in the top 10, IMO. I don't have a problem taking a flyer on Topic at #8, given he was being discussed as a top pick previously.

    There continues to be 8-10 players worth having, which gives us options at pick #8. In summary, at #5-10 I have Dilly, Williams, Knecht, Clingan, Buzelis, Topic. Very plain vanilla, but I do think that the #4 pick will dictate the #8 pick, rather than BPA, given those choices.

    An ideal draft for me would probably be Castle + (Dilly or Sheppard), at this stage.

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    If we don't come away with Dillingham...or dare I say Topic, in this draft...it will be a disaster, unless we plan to trade for Trae or Garland.

    It doesn't matter how much size and defense and shooting you have, you aren't going anywhere in todays nba without a guard who can break down an nba defense, and we have exactly 0 on our roster right now.

    Banking on Dilli being there at 8 is risky. Even teams that don't "need" a point guard might position to take him just to make the Spurs cough up some draft capital

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    My FO sauces indicating we should looking heavily at international for our pics, maybe just 1 that is American collegiate. Crazy stuff.

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    My FO sauces indicating we should looking heavily at international for our pics, maybe just 1 that is American collegiate. Crazy stuff.
    THAT'S SAUCEY!

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    VERY Saucy!

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    Is Dillingham that high because he can play on or off-ball? Seems like the defense limits him in terms of ability to stay on the court, but the playmaking from either guard spot is definitely intriguing. I like Reed's upside and two-way ability better, but neither really seem to fit the size requirements of being multi-positional players.

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    Great read. ZR and Castle have been my top 2 for some time now. They make the most sense positionally and in a world where Wemby and Dev will dominate the ball. Still, hard to see getting ZR at 4 though. In this draft would WAS slide down to 4 in exchange for 35 and CHA pick? Probably not right? And even if they did, they'd probably be a risk to take Castle there.

    My board goes:

    - ZR
    - Castle
    - Sarr
    - 1st best of Matas/Cody/Salaun
    - 2nd best of Matas/Cody/Salaun
    - Carter
    - Sheppard
    - 3rd best of Matas/Cody/Salaun

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    Is Dillingham that high because he can play on or off-ball? Seems like the defense limits him in terms of ability to stay on the court, but the playmaking from either guard spot is definitely intriguing. I like Reed's upside and two-way ability better, but neither really seem to fit the size requirements of being multi-positional players.
    Dillingham shot well in pretty much every category, except a little low around the rim. He and Sheppard passed the ball around and relocated for shots, with Dillingham usually initiating because he's a much better ball handler. But he was good off-ball. Both Reed and Dillingham will be stuck playing 1 or 2, or in multi-guard sets.

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    Feels like the Spurs are in a great spot to land either Risacher or Castle at #4. I'd Dilly lasts to #8 and they got both that'd be ridiculous.

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    Feels like the Spurs are in a great spot to land either Risacher or Castle at #4. I'd Dilly lasts to #8 and they got both that'd be ridiculous.
    I don't think there's a chance Risacher is available at #4, but Castle should be there since Risacher/Sarr will be the top2 and Rockets don't Castle who's too similar to Amen.

    The only question is will Spurs rate one of the available wings (Buzelis/Holland/Williams) higher than Castle.
    Castle surely won't get past Hornets at #6 if Spurs don't get him with #4.

    Then either one of those wings that's leftover or take a gamble with Dillingham. Outside chance for Knecht.
    I don't think there's a chance Pistons, Hornets or Blazers take Dillingham.
    They all have their franchise point guards and another one with no size or defense is the last thing they need.

    I don't want Topic, Buzelis or Dillingham at #4, I'm fine with everything else, tbh.

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    Either Risacher or Castle at #4 will be available, with Reed (maybe not at 8), Dilly, Topic at 8. If they get Spurs future starting PG, plus shooting and athletic wing from this draft will be ideal.

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    Castle or Dillingham at #4 depending on which one is available because I see Houston selecting one of the 2 with their 3rd pick.

    Edey at #8 to help Wemby from having to always be responsible for gaurding the likes of Embid, Jokic, and other girthy physical big men down in the paint. Collins and Bassey is not going to cut it moving forward and by drafting Edey, that's one less big body Wemby would have to endure.

    The Spurs could have multiple 1st round picks next year where they could focus on wing players in a much deeper draft class.

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    If Sarr somehow begins to slide in the draft, I think he has shown enough for San Antonio to pick him at No. 4.
    As I may have mentioned earlier . . .

    If Sarr is (somehow) available at 4, you hand convey the pick to Adam Silver by a paid courier accompanied by a cardiologist just in case.

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    How much of a factor should be fit with Wemby in PNR? Silly has his limitations defensively, obviously, but he would be a killer in PNR. Defenders wouldn’t be able to go under screens, and good luck switching a big on him. Reed might not have blow by ability, but the shooting and feel would really pair well with Wemby. Castle is smooth, but I don’t think he shoots well enough to pressure teams in PNR. They’d go under screens daring him to shoot.

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    kinda funny that people are freaking out about Dillingham's weight. Like that's the easiest thing to fix. Just hit the gym and eat protein
    Agreed.
    These posts make it look like 10lbs difference at 19 is the deciding factor whether he'll be the next superstar guard or out of the league after his rookie contract.
    When people were freaking out about 176 I thought big ing deal, the Spurs can put 10-15 lbs on him in two years easy and get him to 185-190 like they did Parker. Not so easy to put 20-25 lbs on from 164 though.

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    With guessing on other teams boards (up in the air), I think this gets to something like...

    Risacher (I think it's him or Sarr at #1 for the Hawks...I'd go Sarr, hope they go with Risacher)
    Sarr (I think it's more up in the air if Sarr goes #1, but Sarr seems definite if he's there)
    Sheppard? (Hard, wings are covered, PG is long term need post FVF, Dilly / Sheppard etc probably depends on how they see Amen at PG and need for defense on the perimeter with Sengun)
    Castle (BPA on this board)
    Buzelis (Family connections, need a 4)
    Holland (Athlete to attack next to the shooting of Miller and LaMelo, I think an argument for BPA, bunch of the amateur online scouting boards have him top 3)
    Cody (wing bet, bump for HS scouting rating in line with past trends for Portland)
    Dilly (BPA on this board)
    Clingan (Memphis might even trade up to lock him in)
    Topic (Best talent, to me)
    Knecht (Bulls have no iden y other than over drafting old dudes. I think they should swing for fences with Ware, but them going a solid wing and try to win 37 games and convey their 2025 pick would make me happy)
    Filipowski (Salaun is an option here, a second dribble pass shoot big who can play in space seems like a valuable piece given their style)
    Salaun (Upside swing)
    Devin Carter (Just BPA for the Blazers, takes over the 3rd guard minutes. Makes more sense if Simons is traded (to Orlando?)

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    Thanks LJ.

    Any intel (that you're able to share) on potential second round targets?

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    Let’s say what TiMVP is hearing is true and the Spurs are high on this draft… I hope that basically eliminates Salaun. Pick 8 it just too high to take a project like that. I hope it means they see some upside in players closer to being ready to play or a combination of projection/likelihood of reaching that ceiling.

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    Nice to see Bub make his first appearance on the board.

    Absolutely could see:

    #4 - Castle
    #8 - Carrington

    It also sounds possible that the Spurs may look to grab another 1st rounder if an opportunity presents itself.

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    Topic should be out. He had a golden opportunity to be a high pick in my humble opinion, but blew it with the knee injury. He may still have a great future -- but it won't be as a Spur.

    Sarr was always my number 2 behind Topic, so obviously he moves into the number 1 spot, but there's no way he drops to 4. I think our best bet and hope then, is Risacher. He doesn't need to create, he just needs to be a finisher and he'll already make this team leaps and bounds better. Not as good as a ballhandling PG who creates some gravity would, but still ...

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    kinda funny that people are freaking out about Dillingham's weight. Like that's the easiest thing to fix. Just hit the gym and eat protein
    Of all the NBA cities to help a prospect with gaining weight, San Antonio definitely is a cut above.

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    Would you say this? Risacher seems 100% a specialized talent. He shoots, relocates to shoot, and plays defense. He has no on-ball creation, has been rebounding better as of late but has a track record of not. That's the definition of specialized.

    Dillingham is not simply a spot-up shooter but can hit from many different situations. He's an exceptional ball-handler, and maybe the best passer in the lottery class (barring Topic, who I can't comment on). That's not a specialist.

    The one myth I do see bandied about is that the Spurs draft only for positional size. Which seems impossible to gauge given a low number of draft picks overall, the current draft situation and who has the talent, the fact that we never had Wembanyama before, etc.
    I suppose it all depends on what is meant by "all around player". Risacher adds dimensions on defense and (potentially) rebounding (by virtue of his size), and also offers some positional flex between the 3 and 4. Dillingham, as has been discussed, has defensive limitations (though as I've stated, I was impressed with his level of effort the couple full games I watched) and due to his size probably can only play PG.

    Just feels like this may go against some of the philosophical approach the Spurs, specifically, have been going for in first rounders (going all the way back to drafting DJM).

    With that said, Dillingham is #3 on my personal Spurs board, and is above Risacher. 3-4-5 on my board is Dilly, Castle, Sheppard, so I may end up dropping Dilly down to 5 - but it won't be because of Risacher.

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