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Keldon rumor
To me, if you want Garland, just get Dillingham.
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Keldon rumor
Wow. Pretty incredible reporting. The Spurs are willing to hear offers for Keldon. He's gone. Thanks Keldon....
Some dude in the comments said "Denver Nuggets"... I thought about it and I can see that. Don't know what we would get back but Keldon would be a great fit there.
It will be interesting to see if they move on from MPJ.
His contract just kills Denver's flexibility, I'm sure they'd trade him for some quality role players on team-friendly deals.
Tbh, I wouldn't mind Spurs taking his contract, he'd be great for us with his size and shooting, despite being overpaid. And his contract ends when Wemby's extension kicks in.
But then again, I just can't see why would Denver want Keldon, they need more defense and consistent shooting. He offers neither.
So why do we have a 6'5" power forward who's neither good at defense or shooting?Can't wait to pair him up with 6'1', 165 lb Dillingham and the traffic cone that is Zach Collins.
Agreed, they'd be more likely to go and trade with TOR to get Brown back
I've thought for a while that Keldon would do well in Denver. He's a great finisher and can be an outside threat. He'd be a great target for Jokic. Problem is he makes $20 million a year (declining) and they don't have the piece for that. I guess it's getting off MPJ but his contract is rough and I don't see the Spurs wanting any part of that.
Because he's a great guy and does wonders for the culture!So why do we have a 6'5" power forward who's neither good at defense or shooting?
I've said it many times, Keldon must be traded this summer before everyone realizes he's a negative asset. If Spurs can get a FRP for him, do it.
And if we're to compete, Collins can't be in the rotation.
Agreed.
Still, if they're naive enough to think Keldon would be a positive contributor for them, I'd be fine with Keldon+Tre package for MPJ.
Won't happen, but one can dream.
It's not rough since it ends before Wemby's extension kicks in and Devin's contract is declining each year with cap going up.
Devin-Jeremy-MPJ-Wemby does look like a nice lineup if Spurs can find a good point guard to run it.
MPJ would be a great addition tbh. Mainly because he only averages 13 FGAs over there. Give him more touches and he'd look like an All-Star on our team.
Oh, I don't think there's any chance the Spurs want MPJ. That contract is awful compared to what he does. I don't even think they'd spend that much for a needed multi-dimensional player like Garland.
Meant more about how a team like Orlando might absorb him, a team that's moving into playoff contention and needs outside scoring.
I'd like that addition
That's the entire point. If he was on 20 million a year instead of 35, Nuggets would never consider moving him.
He's low IQ, offers no playmaking whatsoever, but he's a 6'10 high volume 3pt shooter and a very good rebounder.
Not a great defender, but having Wemby behind him instead of Jokic would make a massive difference.
If Denver wants to get rid of his contract, Spurs should seriously consider it. It's not like there are many better options.
I feel like most peolpe in here want legit superstars while keeping all the picks. Won't happen.
Yes, I see that last year isn't fully guaranteed. I think I'd still rather keep those funds clean in case a real possibility comes thru, but I guess his contract could be used for that, too. Overall, I'd want assets to absorb his contract more than anything and I'm not sure that's happening.
That’s a re-tweet of a guy who thought Houston won last years draft with Amen and Cam. Did either of them win ROTY? First team All D? Get All NBA votes?
I think we know who won last years draft.
If you go back and watch the 17 points in 3 minutes barrage by Wemby, it was mainly fueled by, missed wide open 3s from MPJ. I hate his health history, and the fact that once the ball touches him, it never comes out again. There was a video out a year or two ago with just Denver teammates shooting WTF looks at him when he didn’t make the easy obvious pass for a bunny layup or dunk.
As I said, he's a low IQ player, but I wouldn't take anything that happened over the past few months again him.
It's amazing that he even decided to play considering all the awful stuff happening with his family. Everyone would be affected.
When KD asked for a trade from Brooklyn, I thought Denver should offer Murray+MPJ, but then they won a championship.
Now it looks like MPJ has to go so they can get some depth.
We won't get a legit all-star player without giving up a lot of picks, might aswell take a chance on some of these players with question marks while Wemby is still on his rookie deal.
MPJ was the third option on a championship winning team and is about to turn 26. If Denver's asking price is just Keldon+Tre and let's say one average FRP, I'd do it.
I'm in the same boat here. The only thing that leans me to Garland is you know what he brings to the team, Dilly COULD be Garland. So I guess it'll really depend on if the FO would rather gamble with the money or the draft pick. I guess realistically the safer bet would be drafting dillingham. If he turns out to be a bust, they have lots of picks to cover their asses later.
Side note - I think we can fully put to rest the far-flung fever dream of Luka demanding out of Dallas and specifically requesting to be traded to the Spurs. Actual, real people wanted to base an entire long-term roster construction philosophy around this fantasy.
Yeah, that was nonsense.” Don’t sign or trade for anyone like Trae Young or Murray because Doncic will want to sign here!” Sheesh
Chris Herring, ESPN Senior Writer
May 28, 2024, 08:00 AM ET
NBA free agency 2024: 10 blockbuster trades, deals that need to happen this offseason
San Antonio Spurs trade for Darius Garland
One of the bigger questions for the future of the league centers on the San Antonio Spurs, and who will ultimately serve as soon-to-be superstar Victor Wembanyama's floor general.
Garland, still just 24 years old, could be a great fit despite his down season. It's fair to wonder whether he's best utilized sharing the ball so much with another star guard in Donovan Mitc , and whether Cleveland's spacing on offense was ideal by having both Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen on the floor together. (It wouldn't be surprising if the Cavs, facing those same questions as they try to convince Mitc to sign an extension, seek to move Garland and/or Allen.)
Should the Spurs deal for Garland, they'd be banking on him not only making life easier for Wembanyama, but also on a return to form for the one-time All-Star as he generates more ballhandling opportunities. To his credit, Garland performed far better after returning from a 19-game absence that stemmed from a fractured jaw, hitting 84 triples -- 10th best in the NBA -- after the All-Star break. He connected on almost 40% of his tries from deep in that span.
Even with Garland playing in just 57 contests, he managed to rank 10th in the league with 58 passes directly into the restricted area. For context, Spurs guard Tre Jones, despite playing in 20 more games than Garland, finished the season with 37 such passes. Garland's added experience with manipulating defenses as a lead ball handler would help San Antonio.
All that said, the Spurs would need to maneuver some in order to take on Garland's deal. San Antonio has about $20 million in cap room this summer, meaning it might need to move someone like backup center Zach Collins -- who's set to make an average of $18 million over the next two seasons -- in order to absorb Garland's hefty salary.
Last edited by ace3g; 05-28-2024 at 02:31 PM.
I mean this is just factually incorrect. We had the 22nd ranked defense this year…how is that historically bad?
Meanwhile we were 3rd last in terms of 3P%…and it’s even worse when you factor in how many wide open looks we’re getting from all of the attention Wemby gets. I would be very interested to see our 3P% on wide open looks relative to the rest of the league.
Overall I don’t disagree with the notion that our defense is a weakness, especially when VW sits. But I pretty strongly disagree that it’s our #1 weakness. 3-point shooting and having a consistent ball-handler who can break down defenses and create for others are both bigger concerns.
there are other ways to trade for star players, which is identifying players with that capability who are used as 3rd options with less usage or who are about to up their game to star levels. Houston often trades for these type of players (OKC Harden to name one). This would be such a case.
so Manu said that the Spurs hope to be contending in 2-3 years
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