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    Trade up to #1 and get Risacher. Get Dejounte/Garland and your set.

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    magic sure did come out a lot better on that draft than the mock had them coming out. jabari smith? yeesh! and lol @ johnny davis. that dude actually had some fans on this site.

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    Trade up to #1 and get Risacher. Get Dejounte/Garland and your set.
    Use the Garland money to trade for an actual SF, draft Dillingham. Far better result.

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    Use the Garland money to trade for an actual SF, draft Dillingham. Far better result.
    Dilingham is too small imo. Risacher can be a good 3 and D guy and I think PG is a more important position to fill and Garland/Dejounte would be great without giving up too much. No issue with Garland money as they'll have cap space. KJ will be gone and another Brahnam/Graham and some picks. Spurs would easily be able to pay Garland or Dejounte.

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    Use the Garland money to trade for an actual SF, draft Dillingham. Far better result.
    Agree, would much rather have Dillingham + Lauri than Garland + Risacher/Buzelis/Holland/Williams.

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    Dilingham is too small imo. Risacher can be a good 3 and D guy and I think PG is a more important position to fill and Garland/Dejounte would be great without giving up too much. No issue with Garland money as they'll have cap space. KJ will be gone and another Brahnam/Graham and some picks. Spurs would easily be able to pay Garland or Dejounte.
    Garland and Dillingham are pretty much the same size. Dillingham is way quicker and shiftier. Leaving aside that Dillingham is probably a better shooter. There's no question in my mind about using a single pick to get Dillingham than using a package and too much money to get Garland.

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    Garland and Dillingham are pretty much the same size. Dillingham is way quicker and shiftier. Leaving aside that Dillingham is probably a better shooter. There's no question in my mind about using a single pick to get Dillingham than using a package and too much money to get Garland.
    Garland is a better facilitator by far and was an Allstar only 2 years ago. Him falling off was because of Mitc and he's still young enough and good enough to put up all star performances next year. I would prefer Dejounte over him tbh. What you think of Dejounte and Risacher if they move up. That can be pretty enticing defensively.

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    Anybody else curious where Joshua Primo would go in this draft?!?

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    Anybody else curious where Joshua Primo would go in this draft?!?

    #4 for sure

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    Ok, if Dillingham has always been a shooter on the teams he played for, he probably never got the word that defense might be a really really good skillset to develop if he wants to survive in the NBA. My feeling is that a really quick and fast athlete can probably be taught the skills of defense pretty quickly. He might need to learn how to flop convincingly if the refs are gonna let bigger guys simply push him around, but he might also develop into a good defensive pest against bigger guys as well, not to mention the ability to use his quickness and speed to be a threat to steal the ball consistently.

    Gonna have to be willing to become a player willing to take some bumps and bruises. Spurs have had some of those over the years.

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    Ok, if Dillingham has always been a shooter on the teams he played for, he probably never got the word that defense might be a really really good skillset to develop if he wants to survive in the NBA. My feeling is that a really quick and fast athlete can probably be taught the skills of defense pretty quickly. He might need to learn how to flop convincingly if the refs are gonna let bigger guys simply push him around, but he might also develop into a good defensive pest against bigger guys as well, not to mention the ability to use his quickness and speed to be a threat to steal the ball consistently.

    Gonna have to be willing to become a player willing to take some bumps and bruises. Spurs have had some of those over the years.
    Sort of what I've been saying.

    In high school, he went to Donda Academy, originated by Kanye West and then shut down just as fast. He then played for Overtime Elite, against players most notably Amen and Ausar Thompson. Then to Kentucky after choosing NC State and then decommitting.

    Coming into Kentucky, he had the reputation as a crowd-pleasing shoot first, shoot last chucker with great handles, but impressed at least some observers by playing within the system and becoming a good playmaker, including a 30% assist rate. (The percentage of assists that came from him while he was on the floor.)

    I have no idea what workouts and interviews will say, but to me he's a player who was never taught a lick of defense. At times he didn't seem to have any real concept of it. Now, I do question the wisdom of going to Kanye West-ville, but that's another thing. But given his ability to conform to Kentucky's offensive sets and freelance only within his duties, I have optimism that he can learn how to play defense.

    And one plus for him is that he's very quick, so has at least some tools to stay with players. Whether he can grasp larger schemes, rotations, shifting assignments on defense, is another matter.

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    Agree, would much rather have Dillingham + Lauri than Garland + Risacher/Buzelis/Holland/Williams.
    Put down your crack pipe we not getting Lauri.

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    Put down your crack pipe we not getting Lauri.
    Ainge wont send Lauri for anything less than the stash of ATL picks. Do people not understand the way Ainge operates?

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    Ainge wont send Lauri for anything less than the stash of ATL picks. Do people not understand the way Ainge operates?
    Spurstalk thinking teams will send out their best players for low ball Spur offers.

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    Trade up to #1 and get Risacher. Get Dejounte/Garland and your set.
    *shudders*

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    Agree, would much rather have Dillingham + Lauri than Garland + Risacher/Buzelis/Holland/Williams.
    if Lori Markanen wasn't about to get super maxed or maxed and Utah didnt love him that would be great

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    Spurstalk thinking teams will send out their best players for low ball Spur offers.
    If he says he isn't re-signing in Utah that's probably what'll happen, just like when the Spurs had to ship Kawhi to Toronto for the lowball offer of DeRozan (who Toronto wanted to salary dump anyways), Poeltl, and Pick #29 for Kawhi + Danny Green.

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    Ok, if Dillingham has always been a shooter on the teams he played for, he probably never got the word that defense might be a really really good skillset to develop if he wants to survive in the NBA. My feeling is that a really quick and fast athlete can probably be taught the skills of defense pretty quickly. He might need to learn how to flop convincingly if the refs are gonna let bigger guys simply push him around, but he might also develop into a good defensive pest against bigger guys as well, not to mention the ability to use his quickness and speed to be a threat to steal the ball consistently.

    Gonna have to be willing to become a player willing to take some bumps and bruises. Spurs have had some of those over the years.
    Yeah, I don't see him willing to take nor do I think his bod can take the hits he would get trying to play good defense

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    If he says he isn't re-signing in Utah that's probably what'll happen, just like when the Spurs had to ship Kawhi to Toronto for the lowball offer of DeRozan (who Toronto wanted to salary dump anyways), Poeltl, and Pick #29 for Kawhi + Danny Green.
    That wasn't considered a low ball offer when it happened. I remember many in here said that was a good trade when it happened.

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    If he says he isn't re-signing in Utah that's probably what'll happen, just like when the Spurs had to ship Kawhi to Toronto for the lowball offer of DeRozan (who Toronto wanted to salary dump anyways), Poeltl, and Pick #29 for Kawhi + Danny Green.
    That's the bottom line here. All this BS being scared of dealing with Ainge is silly. If Utah decides to max him out he stays, if not and he asks out. They'll take the best offer they can get. It doesn't matter if he wants the Atl stash. it just matters that our offer is better than the rest.

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    That wasn't considered a low ball offer when it happened. I remember many in here said that was a good trade when it happened.
    Of course it was a low ball offer. Pick #29 usually doesn't stick around in the league and the Raptors were going to give DeRozan away anyways. From Toronto's perspective the deal was basically Poeltl plus crap for an MVP candidate and one of the top 3 and D role players in the league, an insanely unbalanced trade. The Spurs already had a deal for DeRozan on the table that they tried to sell Kawhi on to convince him to stay, it's not like you needed to give up a star to get Demar at the time.
    Last edited by baseline bum; 05-31-2024 at 10:40 PM.

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    I don’t mean to be a negative Nancy, but I’m not too excited for this draft. It’s rolling the dice on whether or not these players can overcome their glaring weaknesses.

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    Ainge wont send Lauri for anything less than the stash of ATL picks. Do people not understand the way Ainge operates?
    Well it’s not fair to expect you police our boards 100% of the time, LOL

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    I don’t mean to be a negative Nancy, but I’m not too excited for this draft. It’s rolling the dice on whether or not these players can overcome their glaring weaknesses.
    Think of it this way, we at least get two tries to find a player that’s better than our compe ors. They only get one pull on the handle.

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