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    The weaknesses of this guy is so drastic but this draft is so poor that he’s the preferred choice over many other average candidates at our picks. Everything is so alarming about him on defense that I don’t think people are prepared for what they’re going to witness when he’s in the NBA. If people think Wemby will be able to hide his Forbes-level defense, fine. But the guy is foul-happy and probably won’t be able to stay on the court to even showcase his offense consistently. It’s a terrible pick but it’s also a pick we have to make if Sheppard or Castle aren’t there at 4.

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    If Dillngham is a gifted scorer with no defense to speak of, wouldn’t that essentially make him a smaller, lighter, PG version of Branham?

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    Could also see the Spurs passing on a PG altogether and signing a vet PG for this season in hopes that they can land Nolan Traoré in next year's draft tbh. Not a really a fan of putting all your eggs in one basket so to speak, but I guarantee he's all over the Spurs radar already. A 6'4+ multi-dimensional PG who plays great defense, can pass, shoot, attack the basket, play both on and off-ball, and who also excels in PnR is PATFO's wet dream (and any NBA front office's tbh). He's going to be a hot commodity in next year's draft imo.


    Surely Tony Porker would be all over this and informing the Spurs.

    For that matter Wemby himself.

    Bruno, Pauleta can you give us a direct Frenchy report?

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    Spurs compe ion would pick with this dude and the Luka or Ant or SGA would abuse this little fellow

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    Spurs compe ion would pick with this dude and the Luka or Ant or SGA would abuse this little fellow
    This guy is going to get head hunted to death.

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    lol Patty Mills never had those handles. His ceiling is at least Darius Garland. I'm extremely high on Dillingham and got him #2 on my board. Definitely want us to draft him. He's definitely a swing for the fences type of pick, but if he hits it would transform our entire offense for the better.
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    more explosive patty mills

    Dilli must have smashed timvp chick or something

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    I'd say that you don't worry about next year's draft and you draft the best players that are available. If that is a PG (say, Dillingham) and you're in a position to take Traore next year and he is the best player and fit available, you do it and figure it out then. Worst case scenario is that you have two really good PGs on your team, and Traore can probabl play next to a guy like Dillingham anyway. Sounds like a good problem to have.
    That's even more true given that Tre is going to be a free agent next year and might not even last the season if the Spurs are out of the playoff race at the deadline. Traore wouldn't be compe ing with Dilly for minutes at that point; he'd be competing with Wesley or some second-rounder. Needless to say, you don't not draft a guy because of that.

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    Dilly being only 164 lb scares the out of me since it's not likely he can ever get to 185-190 in that frame but his shooting, speed, and ballhandling makes me still like him as my second choice in this draft, behind only Risacher (with Sarr obviously not even worth considering at 4 since no way in he lasts that long).

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    The weaknesses of this guy is so drastic but this draft is so poor that he’s the preferred choice over many other average candidates at our picks. Everything is so alarming about him on defense that I don’t think people are prepared for what they’re going to witness when he’s in the NBA. If people think Wemby will be able to hide his Forbes-level defense, fine. But the guy is foul-happy and probably won’t be able to stay on the court to even showcase his offense consistently. It’s a terrible pick but it’s also a pick we have to make if Sheppard or Castle aren’t there at 4.
    I'm prepared for Branham level defense, especially in his rookie year, but at least with an offensive game to go with it.

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    I'm prepared for Branham level defense, especially in his rookie year, but at least with an offensive game to go with it.
    I said it above, the problem with Dillingham won't quite be the same problem with Branham. They both disengage and just start watching after the action moves past them. Big problem. The big difference is that Branham completely dies on screens. He gets screened and it's game over. I've seen the same with Sheppard, to be honest.

    The problem with Dillingham is not getting rotations, blowing assignments. In that, he's gotten better. But he's quick enough to stick with players and screens aren't a problem. The issues he has are similar but also different than Branham. I think Branham may be a lost cause. I'm not sure about Rob.

    Rob's size isn't a concern to me. If you have Jalen Brunson wanting to post him up ten times a game, that's not a horror show. You can gameplan that, and it's not even an efficient shot. What else is the problem with the size? The quickness more than makes up for it.

    The people who swear Dillingham is the worst defender ever don't know what they're talking about. It's just repeated garbage. Yes, he's horrible. That's not the whole story.

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    I don't know why the Spurs would want the worst and second worst defending guards on their team in Dillingham and Branham. Still value Sheppard over Dillingham right now but 1) Sheppard might not make it to #8 and 2) Sheppard's defense can prove to be just as bad. Will see how the workouts go.
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    Dilly wouldn't be able to stop a one on one fastbreak. Not the slightest unless he developers a godly charging skill. Players will just just go up for a layup. He is unlikely going to crash offensive glass. He also wouldn't be able to defend the upper paint. Players would just shove him out of the way without extensions.

    With two picks, Spurs should seriously consider him at 8 though because the offensive upside is there. Wemby gravity is going to be nuts. Dilly shooting and quick movement around screens is a weapon if it all works out.

    So spurs should draft a sure thing at 4 and dilly at 8 imo.

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    Dilly wouldn't be able to stop a one on one fastbreak. Not the slightest unless he developers a godly charging skill. Players will just just go up for a layup. He is unlikely going to crash offensive glass. He also wouldn't be able to defend the upper paint. Players would just shove him out of the way without extensions.

    With two picks, Spurs should seriously consider him at 8 though because the offensive upside is there. Wemby gravity is going to be nuts. Dilly shooting and quick movement around screens is a weapon if it all works out.

    So spurs should draft a sure thing at 4 and dilly at 8 imo.
    What sure thing at 4? Not even a sure thing to draft at 1.

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    What sure thing at 4? Not even a sure thing to draft at 1.
    Well, try identify is there a future playoff rotational player. Sheppard and Castle I think both could be sure thing rotational players of there game developers accordingly. Where as that Matas guy seems more of a risk.

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    People saying Dilli is to small. He is like an inch shorter and 10 pounds lighter than Ja. Is size a problem for Ja when he was literally jumping over Poeltl every time we played. Didn't seem like it.

    His defense is bad. What rookie point guard defense isn't bad? Let me go check and see all the rookie point guards who made an all defensive team. Damn i can't find one.

    It's like all you guys watched the same podcast or something and came back with the exact same talking points.

    If Dilli is there at 4 he is the no brainer pick. And he might not even be there at 4. Washington has a new regime and they might just draft him cause they need almost everything other than a shooting guard. The rockets are a real team wit no PG behind Van Fleet and they already have to many wings so he makes perfect sense for them.

    I can't believe people would rather have Castle over Dilli. Castle at 8 is fine. But I guess some people want two Devin Vassels instead of one.

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    The weaknesses of this guy is so drastic but this draft is so poor that he’s the preferred choice over many other average candidates at our picks. Everything is so alarming about him on defense that I don’t think people are prepared for what they’re going to witness when he’s in the NBA. If people think Wemby will be able to hide his Forbes-level defense, fine. But the guy is foul-happy and probably won’t be able to stay on the court to even showcase his offense consistently. It’s a terrible pick but it’s also a pick we have to make if Sheppard or Castle aren’t there at 4.
    That must be some good stuff you’re smoking! Dilly projects to be there at 8. There is no need to reach for him at 4. There are at least 5-6 choices we will have at 8 that are all reasonable within the top 12.

    But the beauty of that is it also makes your argument that we can “afford” to take Dilly at 4. Except the obvious math error you are making that Castle and Sheppard being gone at 4 means we get either Sarr or Risacher.

    Thank you, come again.

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    Spurs compe ion would pick with this dude and the Luka or Ant or SGA would abuse this little fellow
    This is loser thinking. What if the other team actually had to also adapt to the lightning quickness of Dilly? Say by keeping a small fast guard in the game when he’s in to try and keep up with him? This is a disease on this board, thinking we have to play the same way as any other team and react to other teams rather than make them react to us.

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    People saying Dilli is to small. He is like an inch shorter and 10 pounds lighter than Ja. Is size a problem for Ja when he was literally jumping over Poeltl every time we played. Didn't seem like it.

    His defense is bad. What rookie point guard defense isn't bad? Let me go check and see all the rookie point guards who made an all defensive team. Damn i can't find one.

    It's like all you guys watched the same podcast or something and came back with the exact same talking points.

    If Dilli is there at 4 he is the no brainer pick. And he might not even be there at 4. Washington has a new regime and they might just draft him cause they need almost everything other than a shooting guard. The rockets are a real team wit no PG behind Van Fleet and they already have to many wings so he makes perfect sense for them.

    I can't believe people would rather have Castle over Dilli. Castle at 8 is fine. But I guess some people want two Devin Vassels instead of one.
    What are we doing here? Every small guy has the same potential?

    Ja has like a 6’7” wingspan and supreme athleticism.

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    People saying Dilli is to small. He is like an inch shorter and 10 pounds lighter than Ja. Is size a problem for Ja when he was literally jumping over Poeltl every time we played. Didn't seem like it.

    His defense is bad. What rookie point guard defense isn't bad? Let me go check and see all the rookie point guards who made an all defensive team. Damn i can't find one.

    It's like all you guys watched the same podcast or something and came back with the exact same talking points.

    If Dilli is there at 4 he is the no brainer pick. And he might not even be there at 4. Washington has a new regime and they might just draft him cause they need almost everything other than a shooting guard. The rockets are a real team wit no PG behind Van Fleet and they already have to many wings so he makes perfect sense for them.

    I can't believe people would rather have Castle over Dilli. Castle at 8 is fine. But I guess some people want two Devin Vassels instead of one.
    Ja is much more athletic and quicker than Dillingham.

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    This is loser thinking. What if the other team actually had to also adapt to the lightning quickness of Dilly? Say by keeping a small fast guard in the game when he’s in to try and keep up with him? This is a disease on this board, thinking we have to play the same way as any other team and react to other teams rather than make them react to us.

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    Ja is much more athletic and quicker than Dillingham.
    More athletic? Sure. Ja is one of the most athletic point guards ever. I'd actually only put young Derrick Rose and young Westbrook over him, and those guys had borderline inhuman jumping ability when they came into the league.

    Quicker? Not so sure. Dillig is lightning quick. Watchin his film and count how many times he beats an ice coverage because he is just that quick, or how many times he splits a double team that they know he is going to try to split because again, he is just that quick.

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    What are we doing here? Every small guy has the same potential?

    Ja has like a 6’7” wingspan and supreme athleticism.
    The point is to show that just because someone is small doesn't mean they can't play.

    Dilly isn't as atheltic as Ja, but he is plenty athletic enough to be the type of point guard we need.

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    All of Trae’s defensive weaknesses, with only a sliver of Trae’s offensive game. This guy is destined to be a career bench player. A 6 foot shooting guard is not what the spurs need.

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    The point is to show that just because someone is small doesn't mean they can't play.

    Dilly isn't as atheltic as Ja, but he is plenty athletic enough to be the type of point guard we need.
    The problem is, he’s not a point guard.

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