Wemby is a great kid I’m not worried about him and the exact timing it’s coming. And he knows it. We know it. It’s coming.
Depends. Bring back same team plus two developing rookies, then things will get messy if Wemby patients disperses. But find another starting material. Ie monk or Patrick Williams. Get Sochan progressing. Will Branham show a jump? Will Devin show defense again with a lesser offensive role? Things like that makes everyone feel better.
He's good enough to be considered with our 2nd rd pick if he's still on the board.
Not exactly breaking news, but yea. He’s a Wizard or a Hawk. Likely the former.
Every one of these guys has such glaring flaws, it really does feel like a crap shoot with this draft. I'm definitely taking Dilly if he's still on the board at 8 though, especially over the rest of those cats. I have a feeling Cody Williams is higher on the Spurs' board though tbh.
The fact that Tidjane Salaun's NBA comp is Obi Toppin makes me want nothing to do with him tbh. Toppin is one of the worst defenders in the league, and that's exactly what Salaun's tape shows too. And that's before you consider how raw he is overall. No thanks.
That's what the Austin Spurs are for. Teach that defense and make him earn his minutes on the big team. We ain't playing traffic cones (well, maybe we do for 1 more year, but that's it).
Water is wet
That’s an incredibly smart move by the Pels, even better if LeBron moves on to play with Bronny somewhere else. Most of the younger teams in the west will be better, and the older teams will be another year older.
New Orleans is really twisting the knife on this trade, deferring this pick twice now, and sticking LA with a near useless #17 in a crap draft. I’m here for it.
Obi Toppin killed it this year though, he is 3rd in TS and 2nd in EFG in the NBA and got key rotation minutes in the ECF.
agreed. Tough position for the lakers. Also add in the fact lebron will be heavily disappointed if the lakers skip their chance to overpay for bronny and he gets picked up before their next move. Lose lose situation for the laker and im here for it.
I don't believe Castle will start for the Spurs if they draft him -- even if he's taken fourth overall. At least he wouldn't start a PG. That would be like starting Sochan at PG all over again. I know a lot of people hate Jones, but he's ... fine. He's solidly above-average in most aspects of being a point-guard. He even shot 39 percent from three as a starter. He has one of the best defensive grades on the team. It's not likely that any PG the Spurs draft would come into the season as a starter. Castle coming off the bench and getting some ball-handler minutes in the second unit seems like the best way to accommodate his desire to play the position, but it should be noted that him wanting to play PG doesn't obligate the Spurs or any other team to play him there. He'll play where he fits best and where his development takes him.
That might be small-forward. Tonight noted that Castle would lose his size advantage if he moved positions, but I think that's an antiquated way to thinking. The Spurs are not going to play straight up against teams with positions direct-guarding their counter parts. Doing so would be a disservice to the generational defender anchoring the paint. The Spurs are absolutely going to be sending guys like Sochan and Castle after the best scorers and rely on their ability to defend multiple positions to give them a ton of flexibility. Castle would bring a level of "stickiness" that would provide the Spurs with better means to deny the ball to certain guys. It would be wasteful to use that ability primarily on PGs, who will likely have the ball to start the possessions.
Spurs need to sit Wemby down and explain another year of team development and the depth of next year's draft and the chance to get two top draft picks in the high lottery will do more for him and the Spurs long term.
Wemby is smart emnough to know it is going to take a couple of years and the need to add better talent to turn this team around into a true contender.
With Wemby and you add another star or even two star level players in next year's draft or a 2nd borderline star and you'll see the foundation of another dynasty again in San Antonio. Spurs need to play this right in building around Wemby
The current core and players with similar upside abilities like what the current core is won't get you there.
How you can judge a player by a comp ? they are totally different in term of carreer or style of play.
Big dog, Castle and Sochan are like night vs day at the pg position. Castle has a better dribble, pass, and bbiq for the position. Castle will kill Tre Jones and Blake Wesley, to big / skilled for them to handle
Your take couldn't be any worse.
Three out of four teams that had better odds than us this year dropped behind to 5th, 6th and 7th pick.
9th and 10th best odds got 3rd and 1st pick.
It's not the old lottery anymore where you tank and get a pick in that approximate range.
Spurs got incredibly lucky with Wemby and then got lucky again this year. Moved up and Raptors pick conveyed.
And you want to take away a season from a kid that clearly wants to be the GOAT only to potentially drop out of top5?
Even if we assume we go that route, do you see what's going on with other lottery teams?
Blazers and Wizards just started their rebuild. Pistons got a new GM and surely won't rush to treadmill just for the sake of it.
Hornets should start getting better, but they're always a dumpster fire.
Then in the East you have the likes of Bulls that should stop treadmilling and blow it up.
Even Brooklyn could be tanking if there's a Bridges to Rockets trade and they get their pick back.
Ainge is just waiting for a good Markkanen offer to blow it up and tank for a couple of years in strong drafts.
With all that being said, you really think Spurs should tell a potential GOAT that he should take a season off because PATFO wants to roll the dice again?
Then you look at the lottery streaks. Spurs and Pistons are tied second behind Hornets.
Denver and Bucks won rings with their homegrown MVPs without any top5 picks.
Dallas is in the finals with just one top5 pick.
Thunder got a great supporting cast around SGA with just one top5 pick.
Knicks would've made ECF without having a single lottery player in their rotation if they didn't all get injured.
Heat keeps competing with next to nothing in the draft.
The only rule for contention has always been front office competence if you have your franchise player. And we do.
How did the mentality of this fanbase change from laughing at incompetent teams like Phoenix being unable to put a team together while being in top5 every year to hoping PATFO tanks for one more year with a player that's going to average 25/12/5 with 4 blocks next season? Stop with the loser mentality because there are no guarantees in the lottery or even in the draft.
We got #9 and #11 picks as the only players worth keeping next to Wemby, now we'll draft #4 and #8 while owning the Hawks near future and some other picks.
It's time for Brian Wright and his people to finally earn their paychecks.
I've seen 164 games of garbage over these past two years, I'm not going to watch another year of tanking just because we might get lucky again.
I’m judging him based on the fact that he’s one the worst defenders in the Draft and is incredibly raw and is 3-4 years away from really contributing. I don’t think he’ll be BPA at 8 either. We’d be reaching on him with that pick in hopes of what he might potentially become in the future imo, much like we did Primo. The Toppin comparison is just icing on the cake.
That's your take, here in France, the defense is one of his qualities basing on reports by people who saw him in person multiple time and he's not raw, few players can play at his age at a consistent basis in betclic elite.To finish he's not my favourite player for our two picks but he's far from what i can read here sometimes IMO ( like topic).
This move has some Spurs implications.
If the Lakers are a key destination for Murray (or Young), then this pick might be in play as part of the package. The Lakers are about to fall off a cliff - at some point, next year or the following - with a major off-season coming up. I don't really care about the Lakers. They blew their pick last year by taking Jalen Hood-Schifino. But whether Atlanta improves is important to us.
I still keep looking at Devin Carter with our 8th pick. I just like his skill set.
I just don't know who you grab at 4 if that is your pick at 8. Grabbing Knect at 4 I guess but that is too high for him, Sheppard at 4 ehhh. I dunno.
If they pursue a solid wing in the off-season going with two guards doesn't seem like a terrible idea, I necessarily wouldn't like it but wouldn't hate it either.
There is much to like about Carter, but I wonder about his shot. The percentages look OK, but his mechanics are weird, so it’s not clear to me he has much room for improvement without totally tearing down and rebuilding his shot.
Thing is in that scenario where you would find your other star(s) through next year's draft are:
1. You actually have to find said star(s) in next year's draft, which isn't guaranteed, no matter how deep it is.
2. If you actually do find potential star(s), that's still 3 or 4 years (at least) of development before they reach that star level..
So, you have to explain Wemby spurs could start to be compe ive in 4-5 years (and will have to tank, suck, and be bottom of the league next year again). That's some persuasion skills you need there, but who knows where victor's mind will be regarding spurs strategy.
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