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sure it was
he'll make the shots.
draft the best player and thats Castle. this isn't hard
sure it was
Nice take and I have to say I would not mind at all with picking Castle and Holland as both I think will very be VERY good one on one and team defenders. I know some are not high on Holland but I think he was in a very bad situation the coaching and the team set up was just a complete train wreck. His personality to me seems very much like Castle they both play hard on both ends and both do not like getting scored on. Is he a day one starter "Nope" but I think he is a more athletic Murray was when he was drafted as I remember he could not dribble the ball without looking like a hunchback and he turned out OK...
Why would he suddenly start hitting his shots in the NBA, when he didn't in college, against lesser compe ion and a shorter 3pt line?
A team of Thompson, Castle and Sengun can only be a headache for Rockets' fans, tbh.
Castle & Holland = dream draft
I really like Castle, but given team needs around shooting and spacing if it’s a choice between Sheppard and Castle at 4, I think Sheppard is the right pick. Castle is unlikely to fall to 8.
we need SOME shooting and spacing
In this case I would say Castle getting maybe 15 minutes a game and Holland playing a lot more in G League and coming up and with the big boys every now and then. If your counting on both of our picks getting Wemby type minutes and making any thing close to his impact your going to be very disappointed
I think they’ll find that in FA if need be. Draft of only one part of the offseason.
That said, I’m a hard pass on Holland and his MKG looking shot. Rather roll the dice with Salaun.
I believe Houston will successfully trade their pick to a team hot for Clingon.
Castle's likely better because of ball-handling and passing chops, but I can see a concern with a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist comp. MKG was coming off a championship with Kentucky, was seen as an elite defender, a poor shooter, and had good but not great advanced stats. So, very similar to Castle. I understand why people like him, but throwing out phrases like "no brainer" or "it's an easy decision" is a tad overconfident imo...
Yeah! It's a no brainer that we could pick any of the top 12 players in this draft and argue they are almost as good as the others, though. Which is good for the Spurs.
Kidd-Gilchrist was improving as a complete player before injuries derailed his career, including a labrum tear to his shoulder.
Have you ever seen MKG’s form? You can’t just compare percentages,and say Castle is a comp.
Recheck the post-- the comp was more than just shooting. And I don't buy the idea that a poor shooter is going to necessarily improve because his shot "looks" good or looks ok. If anything, that can be a red flag-- having decent form and still shooting a bad percentage.Have you ever seen MKG’s form? You can’t just compare percentages,and say Castle is a comp.
Shooting form is important.
If the form looks good it might just be a minor correction or not rushing the shot so fast so just a timing issue.
If the shooting form is bad the whole shot needs to be corrected and reworked and it shows awkwardness with the player and it may never be able to be improved upon if the athletic ability and coordination isn't there with the player.
I would take Kidd-Gilchrist with an improvable jump shot out of this draft, definitely. It's the same type that also got you a Kawhi.
Shooting blows up your comp completely. Shooting form, upstairs, can look fine, but if your base is wrong, poor results. That was Wemby’s problem early. They very well could fix his form and shot, but there was no fixing that monstrosity of MKGs. Terrible comp, even if you’re looking at other things. MKGs career was doomed from the start.
There's a correlative relationship, I agree, but it's not written in stone. Lots of folks pointed out Haliburton's funky form and said his college 3pt% was probably a fluke, but he's been a consistently good shooter for half a decade now.
Form is an uncertain thing. A player can have good form but bad touch. This is one reason I'm not high on Risacher, despite good shooting numbers generally this season and upper form that looks good (footing isn't always great). When he misses, there's no give, no softness or bounce.
If Castle develops a shot, his upside is complementary superstar. If he doesn’t, he’s a marginal contributor. Worth the boom/bust risk?
In this draft? To get a potential lock-down defender? Yeah x1000.
Some reason people getting obsessed with one aspect of things without seeing the overall value. If he never shoots above .300 from deep and is an exceptional perimeter defender you take this player.
DeRozan is a great example: good form, good midrange shooting, good free throw shooter. All the signs are positive, so making him a good 3 pt shooter shouldn't be too difficult, right? And now he's 34 and slightly better than he used to be, but still not a real three point threat. I certainly don't think it's impossible, but people tend to be a little cavalier about the likelihood of future shooting improvement.
Interesting case. A player that just is comfortable in the mid-range. Deep shots just don't work for him. Then you have a toddler in Dillingham who launches from pretty far out, or Curry.
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