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    Can't see him wearing a Spur's jersey.

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    What's your order of preference for 8 assuming Castle goes at 4?
    Sarr, Castle, Risacher, Buzelis in that order and all gone by 8. Not interested in any player going around 8. Don't want Topic, Clingan, Salaun, Williams, Holland, Dillingham, Sheppard.
    Either trade 8 for a veteran or move it for a future first.

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    If he's there at 8, he needs to be the pick. Instant offense.

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    Can't see him wearing a Spur's jersey.
    I'm skeptical too given their hard-on for point guards with size when they pick in the first (Hill, Joseph, Murray, White, Primo, Branham, Wesley). Hope that means they take Castle instead of Topic at 4 at least if so.

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    brian wright has a hard time with draftin/evaluating Gs

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    In an ESPN podcast devoted mostly to Bronny (of course) they reported that Klutch is trying to hide Dillingham.

    First, I keep forgetting that he's Klutch, which sucks.

    Second, I don't know if I believe it. Klutch makes demands, they're not into subterfuge.

    It also doesn't seem the wisest, for him. I mean, expecting the same thing's going on as with Stephon Castle. Even more than Castle, Dillingham's career could be made or shot depending on where he goes. Spurs? Legit big possibilities. His problems are covered to good amount. He can throw a boat-ton of lobs to Wembyanama.

    Last, though, this all depends on some kind of coordination with the Spurs, which doesn't seem likely. Not to say SAS is the only preferred destination, but it's risky to wiggle your ass out in the Red District hoping for a certain gentleman when he may have other plans.

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    Another vid.

    That play at :33 is ing awesome.

    That play at :40 is ing atrocious.

    It's the Trae Young brand disengaging and just watching plays that has got to be fixed. Holy man.

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    A taller, skinnier Isaiah Thomas. Perfect.
    Weird use of sarcasm given that coming up with a taller, skinnier Isiah Thomas would be a monumental win in this year's draft, tbh.

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    My current mood is Dilly/Knecht. Just get ALL the shooting.

    Again, I'm not going to be too disappointed in any choice the Spurs make outside of maybe two nonshooters.
    I know many guys in here would hate that draft, but that likely gives you two instant contributors, probably even starters (Knecht would start right away over Champaigne. Dilly probably begins the season as a backup to Tre). If you are looking for the fastest impact possible, a combination of those guys (you can also switch Dilly for Sheppard) is the best bet, imho.

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    Also, how much of Reed's open shots were due to playing alongside Dillingham? It's just a thought I had.
    He’d get more open shots playing off a Wemby than he ever did off Dilly.

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    I’m generally a fan of Dilly (in particular at the 8 not the 4), but what makes him better than the much cheaper to draft KJ Simpson?

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    Weird use of sarcasm given that coming up with a taller, skinnier Isiah Thomas would be a monumental win in this year's draft, tbh.
    Isaiah Thomas <> Isiah Thomas

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    Woo said this guy is dropping along with Holland.

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    Vecenie's latest had him going out of the lottery. To me that's amazing.

    The narrative around the draft nowadays is so dependent on measurements, which I guess is okay to a certain degree, but it's so selectively applied and only to serve certain things.

    Reed Sheppard is widely considered top three, yet everyone acknowledges that he's going to have problems as a POA defender and will need to be covered. His size is not appreciably different than Dillingham. It really isn't.

    Pundits and fans everywhere call out to get big packages together for Trae Young or Darius Garland... who are the same size as Rob Dillingham. They both went high lottery.

    Dillingham shot 44.4% from deep in college. Young shot 36% from deep in college (and has never been a great shooter).

    Garland shot better, but only played six games at the beginning of the year against cupcakes. Dillingham is quicker, has better handles, and is a better playmaker.

    Yet Vecenie has him going to the Sixers in a mock.

    To me there's a significant problem with how these narratives are forming and a lot of teams are going to make a mistake. Not saying the Spurs should take him, just saying the fickle, inane group narrative is problematic.

    Barely months ago the narrative was that Kentucky guards were often taken way too late and they often blew up once they hit the league. Which... other than a few examples is true.

    So... what happened? Why exactly did an entire draft industry decide to ignore everything it was saying (and is still saying and doing) while spontaneously deciding to selectively apply a new, incomplete narrative?

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    If it comes down to weight, then fine.

    But then why are measurements being ignored in many other cases?

    A full 22% of the league is 6'3" or shorter. No, the league is not trending bigger. Yes, small guards have gone deep in the playoffs or have won championships. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, shooting is still a key skill in the NBA and here's the second best shooter in the draft, who is the same size as the best shooter in the draft.

    And he has a key skill to become a better defender, which is quickness.

    He's the same size as other Kentucky guards who are doing very well like Fox and Maxey.

    So, why has this delusion descended over things?

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    If it comes down to weight, then fine.

    But then why are measurements being ignored in many other cases?

    A full 22% of the league is 6'3" or shorter. No, the league is not trending bigger. Yes, small guards have gone deep in the playoffs or have won championships. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, shooting is still a key skill in the NBA and here's the second best shooter in the draft, who is the same size as the best shooter in the draft.

    And he has a key skill to become a better defender, which is quickness.

    He's the same size as other Kentucky guards who are doing very well like Fox and Maxey.

    So, why has this delusion descended over things?
    Isn’t the big issue that he hasn’t been able to work out during this process bc he’s hurt? Basically, he hasnt been able to mollify team concerns about size while showing his other skillsets etc.

    That seems like a legit thing to me. Same reason fans here are saying “well NO WAY spurs take Topic at 8 now” bc of the knee.

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    If it comes down to weight, then fine.

    But then why are measurements being ignored in many other cases?

    A full 22% of the league is 6'3" or shorter. No, the league is not trending bigger. Yes, small guards have gone deep in the playoffs or have won championships. Yes, if I'm not mistaken, shooting is still a key skill in the NBA and here's the second best shooter in the draft, who is the same size as the best shooter in the draft.

    And he has a key skill to become a better defender, which is quickness.

    He's the same size as other Kentucky guards who are doing very well like Fox and Maxey.

    So, why has this delusion descended over things?
    The PG spot is trending bigger there was a study that this is the tallest and heaviest the PG position has been in 70 years. The league height is trending toward the middle with like sized players. Shooting can be found on any position now. Big men smaller, guards bigger.

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    Isn’t the big issue that he hasn’t been able to work out during this process bc he’s hurt? Basically, he hasnt been able to mollify team concerns about size while showing his other skillsets etc.

    That seems like a legit thing to me. Same reason fans here are saying “well NO WAY spurs take Topic at 8 now” bc of the knee.
    I think you’re on the money here.
    Klutch will make sure he has a chance to shine though when he’s fully healthy, the issue is going to be which teams will he work out for.
    He probably won’t be able to do as many as he would like and he may have to perform for teams outside the top ten as a result.

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    It could also be a simple as Klutch’s meddling and hiding him. Apparently they did this with Lively last year to get him to DAL. Might they be doing something similar with Dillingham? And if so to what team?

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    Woo said this guy is dropping along with Holland.
    That’s what pundits were saying about Devin Vassell too. Look how that turned out

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    Castle + Dilly would be a nice draft.

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    It could also be a simple as Klutch’s meddling and hiding him. Apparently they did this with Lively last year to get him to DAL. Might they be doing something similar with Dillingham? And if so to what team?
    Tbh, Spurs would be the only good lottery situation for him.
    Teams that don't have a point guard are about to enter a longer rebuild and he'd be relegated to the bench for teams that do.

    Maybe they hope Spurs take him at #8.

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    Like size, speed and quickness can't be taught. However, I think speed and quickness can be tremendous assets if you are going to teach a player defense. At ude toward playing defense is the key. Most shooters have spent their entire career being lauded for their shooting ability and being given a pass on defense. They grow up thinking defense is just a waiting period until they get the ball back to do something on offense.

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    Spurs shouldn't take this guy. If we're going to go after a tiny guard, I'd prefer its one we know is a star and not take a flier on a high draft pick who may or may not pan out but will never have size. If we're going to roll the dice - and it seems like any pick is a roll of the dice - we should bet on size and athleticism.

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