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    If SA take Castle at 4 like many expect, I would assume Sheppard would be long gone by 8. If Dillingham is already gone or if people have issues with his slightness of frame, McCain is probably not a bad alternative - he might be the best shooter in the draft, and has one of the highest half-court rim% of all the freshman guards. He is most likely a combo guard at the next level - he is basically CJ McCollum crossed with a fire hydrant, with hidden playmaking upside given his role in high school as well as the fact that he was sharing the court with two pure point guard in Proctor and Roach. Having him as at worst your 3rd guard who gives you much needed shooting while waiting for 2025 for your wings may not be a terrible consolation prize.

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    Hoping Givony is full of here cause the Spurs need to suck again this year (and they likely will). Players improving while still having our sights on the 2025 Draft should be the priority here, not making the playoffs tbh.

    I don’t think there’s really any (smart) way for the Spurs to tank this year. Even if we don’t do a single thing in the offseason, VW improving further and the current roster having an offseason to build more chemistry and build off of the (relatively) strong finish to the season…I don’t see us being a bottom 5 team in the league barring a Victor injury. , look at what we did the last 1/4 of the season…we were pretty much playing like a 35-40 win team.

    And that’s fine. We will still likely have our own mid-late lottery pick in 2025, + decent potential for another lottery pick from Atlanta + a top 10 protected CHI pick. It’s not like the Spurs trying to not suck this year means we won’t have a chance at getting some serious talent in next year’s draft.

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    If SA take Castle at 4 like many expect, I would assume Sheppard would be long gone by 8. If Dillingham is already gone or if people have issues with his slightness of frame, McCain is probably not a bad alternative - he might be the best shooter in the draft, and has one of the highest half-court rim% of all the freshman guards. He is most likely a combo guard at the next level - he is basically CJ McCollum crossed with a fire hydrant, with hidden playmaking upside given his role in high school as well as the fact that he was sharing the court with two pure point guard in Proctor and Roach. Having him as at worst your 3rd guard who gives you much needed shooting while waiting for 2025 for your wings may not be a terrible consolation prize.
    Why would you assume Reed is gone by then? DET has a glut of PGs, CHA has LaMelo, and POR has a glut of PGs too. I think Spurs coming away with Castle + Reed is very much in play.

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    Don‘t worry, as long as we play Zach Collins as our back up Center, which Pop will do to justify his contract, it will make our record worse. We‘ll always lose our leads or be down 10+ with him out there, so the starters with Victor gotta play from behind.

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    Why would you assume Reed is gone by then? DET has a glut of PGs, CHA has LaMelo, and POR has a glut of PGs too. I think Spurs coming away with Castle + Reed is very much in play.
    I assume Sheppard is going to Houston at 3. If not, he fits perfectly next to either Cade or Lamelo. Honestly, if both Sheppard and Castle are there at 4, I take Sheppard first and hope that between Charlotte's pick and Castle basically trying to direct himself away from Hornets, that you're able to trade up to 6 for Castle.

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    Spurs were 13-14 over the last 27, and 7-4 over the last 11, even with the ragtag roster around Victor. They would have to break Victor’s leg to not win 30, with as many teams that will tank next year. Add a couple of vets, and you’re a play in team. If we draft high next year,it will have to be the ATL pick jumping into the top 4.
    Two things the first is most teams were not playing for anything even playoff teams were resting people against us. The second thing not being discussed is that Wemby just played his longest season ever and just after that it he is going straight to practice with the French team. Pretty much it is a given that the French team is going to go deep so I don't know how is body is going to hold up with playing NBA-French Team-NBA season?

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    I assume Sheppard is going to Houston at 3. If not, he fits perfectly next to either Cade or Lamelo. Honestly, if both Sheppard and Castle are there at 4, I take Sheppard first and hope that between Charlotte's pick and Castle basically trying to direct himself away from Hornets, that you're able to trade up to 6 for Castle.
    Castle is the more unique player. You take him at 4. Sheppard or Dillingham one or even both will probably still be there at 8. Det- Clingan Charlotte- Williams/ Buzelis/Holland and Portland - Holland/Buzelis/ Williams

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    What’s the deal with Salaun getting mocked to us at 8? It’s not like he fills a need. I mean long term, maybe. But in the short term, he’s rawer than a a freshly served salmon sashimi fresh off the coast of Alaska. If we’re going for a position of need, we might as well get Cody Williams at 8 to be the starter at the 3 spot. Thats assuming we pick Castle/Reed/Dilly at 4. Ideally though, I’d pick Risacher at 4 if he was available then whoever is available among those 3 guards at 8.

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    I assume Sheppard is going to Houston at 3. If not, he fits perfectly next to either Cade or Lamelo. Honestly, if both Sheppard and Castle are there at 4, I take Sheppard first and hope that between Charlotte's pick and Castle basically trying to direct himself away from Hornets, that you're able to trade up to 6 for Castle.
    That makes sense. Detroit isn't taking Castle (but might take Sheppard), and the Charlotte trade framework would be in place before the draft based on this scenario..

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    Castle is the more unique player. You take him at 4. Sheppard or Dillingham one or even both will probably still be there at 8. Det- Clingan Charlotte- Williams/ Buzelis/Holland and Portland - Holland/Buzelis/ Williams
    We have completely different approaches when it comes evaluating prospects so we are going to have to disagree on the correct course of action here

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    What’s the deal with Salaun getting mocked to us at 8? It’s not like he fills a need. I mean long term, maybe. But in the short term, he’s rawer than a a freshly served salmon sashimi fresh off the coast of Alaska. If we’re going for a position of need, we might as well get Cody Williams at 8 to be the starter at the 3 spot. Thats assuming we pick Castle/Reed/Dilly at 4. Ideally though, I’d pick Risacher at 4 if he was available then whoever is available among those 3 guards at 8.
    New rule that the Spurs must draft a non-Wemby French player every draft from now on. This is why they took Cissoko.

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    New rule that the Spurs must draft a non-Wemby French player every draft from now on. This is why they took Cissoko.
    That would be a stupid way to draft

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    Two things the first is most teams were not playing for anything even playoff teams were resting people against us. The second thing not being discussed is that Wemby just played his longest season ever and just after that it he is going straight to practice with the French team. Pretty much it is a given that the French team is going to go deep so I don't know how is body is going to hold up with playing NBA-French Team-NBA season?
    Olympics are in August, so I can’t imagine their camp starting any earlier than early July. Spurs stopped playing in mid April, so that will be plenty of rest.

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    That would be a stupid way to draft
    Sarcasm detection fail.

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    Sarcasm detection fail.

    I baited you into this post. I knew some smartass would post this.

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    I assume Sheppard is going to Houston at 3. If not, he fits perfectly next to either Cade or Lamelo. Honestly, if both Sheppard and Castle are there at 4, I take Sheppard first and hope that between Charlotte's pick and Castle basically trying to direct himself away from Hornets, that you're able to trade up to 6 for Castle.
    My bad, I read too quick. I thought you meant a world where Spurs pass on him at 4. Overlooked the Houston scenario.

    DET still seems tough to me since they just spent two drafts taking PGs. Maybe if they take Reed it could mean Ivey isn’t in their long terms plans?

    I suppose CHA could be a fit, but I have them pegged as a Holland home to compliment Miller and give Melo another toy to lob to. But I do like having the CHA pick as ammo to move up from 8 to 6 if need be.

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    I baited you into this post. I knew some smartass would post this.
    Ha. I baited YOU into baiting ME.

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    Is this the event in Europe that is supposed to tell us how ZR, Salian, and Topic measure and otherwise grade out?

    https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfee...mp-day-1-recap

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    I assume Sheppard is going to Houston at 3. If not, he fits perfectly next to either Cade or Lamelo. Honestly, if both Sheppard and Castle are there at 4, I take Sheppard first and hope that between Charlotte's pick and Castle basically trying to direct himself away from Hornets, that you're able to trade up to 6 for Castle.
    If the Trail Blazers supposed interest in Clingan is significant enough and the Spurs interest in Castle is, then they should be working in concert with his representation to dissuade the Hornets enough that they pass and he gets to 7, in which case: Spurs trade ideas - Page 44 (spurstalk.com)

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    I baited you into this post. I knew some smartass would post this.
    Ha. I baited YOU into baiting ME.
    It’s a draw. You are both master baiters.

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    It’s a draw. You are both master baiters.

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    I would hate this outcome.

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    Spurs were 13-14 over the last 27, and 7-4 over the last 11, even with the ragtag roster around Victor. They would have to break Victor’s leg to not win 30, with as many teams that will tank next year. Add a couple of vets, and you’re a play in team. If we draft high next year,it will have to be the ATL pick jumping into the top 4.

    Would be a mistake to take the last 25 games of the season as the standard and level of this team. The all star break is when you start seeing half of the NBA tanking and the last 10 games or so playoff teams resting and "load managing" their best players.

    The exact same roster would still be bottom of the league next season and would have no shot at the play in with just a couple vets.

    It took 46 wins last year to be top 10 in the West. Add HOU (reportedly shopping for a star) and MEM getting back Ja to last year 10 PO/play in teams, and spurs woun't be in the discussion.

    Last year where we all saw that team get so much better and have a shot at the play in should serve as an (humbling) lesson.

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    It took 46 wins last year to be top 10 in the West. Add HOU (reportedly shopping for a star) and MEM getting back Ja to last year 10 PO/play in teams, and spurs woun't be in the discussion.
    As if everyone that was in top10 will stay on the same level.
    Clippers are old and injured, Warriors look done unless they make major moves.
    Lakers also need a major move, otherwise Lebron/AD inevitably get injured again. Not to mention they're about to hire JJ Re as their coach.
    We'll see what Pelicans do, they're obviously trying to get rid of Ingram and even CJ.
    Kings peaked with Sabonis/Fox no defense combo.

    I'm not saying Spurs will be better than any of these teams unless some moves are made, but chances of every playoff team staying healthy are really low these days.
    And while we might just miss out on the playoffs while trying to compete, it's still progress and good experience for young players.
    You don't go from 20ish to 50ish wins in one year. Won't happen.

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