Where does everyone stand on Collier at this point? I know his freshman year was a little underwhelming but he still showed some serious flashes of potential. I’d go with him over someone like Salaun if we’re just shooting for total upside at pick 8. Not my first choice but he’s not out of the question IMO.
I was wondering if he’s gonna drop back as much as people think he will. I think he goes 10-14 but 8 seems like a stretch with the options we’ll have at 8.
I have no problem with Salaun but it seems like an unnecessary reach at 8.
I never liked Collier when I watched him. If there's a lottery-ish player I think is most unlikely to be drafted by the Spurs, it's Isaiah Collier.
Lazy and inattentive on defense, on offense his main move is barreling into the lane, which he was good at in college. Not a great touch scoring, but he drew a lot of fouls at that level, but was like at a .668 free throw percentage. He sometimes has good vision, but often blew very basic and easy passes. Charitably, because he's going too fast. Uncharitably, because his touch is not good. Nor is it good on his jumpshot, which rockets off the rim if he misses. Three point percentage is not a disaster but not one I believe in. Basically, a one trick pony whose trick won't play in the NBA. I don't see a team willing to let him spam going at the rim over better options. To me he's like a Scoot Henderson who is worse.
Antonio could compete at that 35th spot.
Collier definitely seems like an anti-Spur but I think the narrative about him is baked in at this point and lacks some nuance, such as he seems to have made progress after coming back from his hand injury. Playing next to Bronny and his circus is not a valid excuse for playing ty defense, but could be a part of their weirdly disastrous season. He was highly touted for some reasons. Is likely being underappreciated like Keyonte last year broadly speaking. But still not worth an 8 pick I would say. But does fit some obvious needs for this team. Also, he has flashes of great passing, possibly more than Devin or Reed, just very inefficient.
I don't think much is known of his personality other than he doesn't smile much. Spurs obviously have greater insight then we do.
A person can certainly convince themselves of anything.
In this draft, definitely. We all do. Yourself included.
Pacome Dadiet seems to be rising in mock drafts
He should...he's got some potential...
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Those last few wins were because Pop decided to play the older and better vets (mamu, Barlow, Graham) over the ters Malaki and Wesley and Zach. With how stacked the west is I see almost zero chance of a playoff birth without getting really lucky in the draft (low level allstar season from one of the picks) or a Trae young like trade.
I have no idea what to make of Collier.
Some scouts are extremely high on him as they think he may be the best shot creator from this draft when it's all said and done.
I'm just not a fan of ball dominant guards who can't consistently shoot from the outside and rely overwhelmingly on the bulk advantage (in college) to get to the basket.
That's also why I'm fascinated by someone like Dillon Jones. Similar body types, sans Wingspan, but has some dribble creation ability to go with the bulk.
Admittedly older but Collier may not ever be as good as Jones is now...or this post just wracks up the massive L in time
Collier seems like a much worse Nikola TopicI have no idea what to make of Collier.
Some scouts are extremely high on him as they think he may be the best shot creator from this draft when it's all said and done.
I'm just not a fan of ball dominant guards who can't consistently shoot from the outside and rely overwhelmingly on the bulk advantage (in college) to get to the basket.
That's also why I'm fascinated by someone like Dillon Jones. Similar body types, sans Wingspan, but has some dribble creation ability to go with the bulk.
Admittedly older but Collier may not ever be as good as Jones is now...or this post just wracks up the massive L in time
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