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    I think the play offs showed kind of a come back of defense and last nights game wasn't an exception.
    the C's are dominating without an outstanding performance on offense, because they have no weak link on defense.
    that's why I don't share the oppinion you can afford to play with a liability on defense because you have a plus defender in Wemby behind him.
    the moment you start sending double teams to help out your weak link is the moment the defense cracks.
    the C's don't need to worry about this, beacause they have 5 players out there, who can handle the job on defense.
    Wolves had 5 players who can handle the job on defense.
    Celtics have 5 players that can defend multiple positions, are good rebounders for their size, are at least above average from deep and can put the ball on ther floor.
    Their offense works not only because everyone can shoot, but because everyone can initiate the offense, run PNR and attack the basket.

    It's exactly the kind of roster Spurs need around Wemby.
    Forget twin towers, forget 10apg heliocentric playmakers or second options that can score 30 on regular basis.
    Just get one all-star and a bunch of elite role players and we're good to go because Wemby will unquestionably be the best player in the league in no time.

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    His shot is really bad. Not quite MKG level, but bad. If he had good fundamentals to fall back on, that would be one thing, but what I’m seeing is an athlete, not a high level basketball player. He needs too many things to click to even be good, like a starter.

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    Kind of crazy that in a supposedly weak draft Holland can't be guaranteed to stick in the top 10 or even 14.

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    His shot is really bad. Not quite MKG level, but bad. If he had good fundamentals to fall back on, that would be one thing, but what I’m seeing is an athlete, not a high level basketball player. He needs too many things to click to even be good, like a starter.
    It's not just his shot, it's everything.
    The other day I read that 15% of his points were in transition, led the G-league.
    No prospect that made it ever had more than 10-12%.
    His finishing at the rim when there's someone trying to contest the layup is poor.
    His decision making is awful and his shot is obviously non-existant.
    Even on defense, his stance looks way too stiff and most of his good plays are just timely steals.

    Supreme athlete that offers nothing else.
    Textbook case of everything that's wrong with US development system.
    Noone taught him actual basketball skills because he didn't need them while dunking on inferiror compe ion in high school.

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    What do people think about Matas Buzelis? If we’re in the hunt for a starting SF and Risacher is out of reach, why not him?

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    It's not just his shot, it's everything.
    The other day I read that 15% of his points were in transition, led the G-league.
    No prospect that made it ever had more than 10-12%.
    His finishing at the rim when there's someone trying to contest the layup is poor.
    His decision making is awful and his shot is obviously non-existant.
    Even on defense, his stance looks way too stiff and most of his good plays are just timely steals.

    Supreme athlete that offers nothing else.
    Textbook case of everything that's wrong with US development system.
    Noone taught him actual basketball skills because he didn't need them while dunking on inferiror compe ion in high school.
    He was put in a bad spot, too, by the crapshow that was Ignite, by being forced to be their main ball-handler and initiator. That said, he's the template you often see picked in the top ten and I still expect to see him there.

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    What do people think about Matas Buzelis? If we’re in the hunt for a starting SF and Risacher is out of reach, why not him?
    The rumor is his motor or drive isn't there. Spurs usually favour at ude. But who knows.

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    It's not just his shot, it's everything.
    The other day I read that 15% of his points were in transition, led the G-league.
    No prospect that made it ever had more than 10-12%.
    His finishing at the rim when there's someone trying to contest the layup is poor.
    His decision making is awful and his shot is obviously non-existant.
    Even on defense, his stance looks way too stiff and most of his good plays are just timely steals.

    Supreme athlete that offers nothing else.
    Textbook case of everything that's wrong with US development system.
    Noone taught him actual basketball skills because he didn't need them while dunking on inferiror compe ion in high school.
    i wouldn't even call it a development system, with the exception of some college programs. it's a side show.

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    What do people think about Matas Buzelis? If we’re in the hunt for a starting SF and Risacher is out of reach, why not him?
    my preference since the start is Sarr/Zach/Matas

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    The rumor is his motor or drive isn't there. Spurs usually favour at ude. But who knows.
    I kind of sense the same in his interviews, he talks about how he didn't watch basketball growing up, and looks almost too relaxed. That kind of put me off a bit. There are a lot of things I like about Buzelis, especially that combination of skills and fluidity to go along with size, but if he isn't perceived as a strong compe or then that takes a lot of the appeal for me. Starting to give me some Keith Van Horn vibes.

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    I kind of sense the same in his interviews, he talks about how he didn't watch basketball growing up, and looks almost too relaxed. That kind of put me off a bit. There are a lot of things I like about Buzelis, especially that combination of skills and fluidity to go along with size, but if he isn't perceived as a strong compe or then that takes a lot of the appeal for me. Starting to give me some Keith Van Horn vibes.
    The story Buzelis tells is that he wasn't big into basketball, maybe because that's what his parents did, but says he fell in love with it. I don't think interest in basketball is an issue there. Stuff like challenging Risacher one-on-one is weird and slightly off-putting, but I chalk that up to just being young and stuff.

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    Buzelis and Carter are very gettable at 4 and 8.

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    What do people think about Matas Buzelis? If we’re in the hunt for a starting SF and Risacher is out of reach, why not him?
    He’s not a SF

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    Some have said Buzelis interviews really well, but to me he comes across as kind of a dork. But then again so does Sochan.

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    Yeah I don’t like Mantas he will have to play PF in the NBA and he hates contact which is not something I want from my starting PF. Also, to many times he would disappear in games on offense and defense there were more then one game where his teammate Tyler Smith clearly outplayed him.

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    Again, I'd gladly take The Furph ten times over Buzelis. Actually can shoot, actually has a ft% above .700. Doesn't shy from contact. In fact, the opposite. Aussies body check their mamas rather than give them hugs goodnight. Only thing Buzelis does better is that weakside shotblocking. That's it.

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    Not surprising..

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    Again, I'd gladly take The Furph ten times over Buzelis. Actually can shoot, actually has a ft% above .700. Doesn't shy from contact. In fact, the opposite. Aussies body check their mamas rather than give them hugs goodnight. Only thing Buzelis does better is that weakside shotblocking. That's it.
    this is laughable imo

    im not even a buzelis fan, but he can create his shot by putting the ball on the floor, he has better footwork inside, is a better passer. furphy's desired outcome is something like corey brewer with a 3 point shot. which isnt bad, whereas matas' aspiration is probably something like lamar odom (albeit not as good a rebounder) or franz wagner.

    furphy seems more like a floor raiser while buzelis aspires to be a ceiling raiser

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