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    Wolves had 5 players who can handle the job on defense.
    Celtics have 5 players that can defend multiple positions, are good rebounders for their size, are at least above average from deep and can put the ball on ther floor.
    Their offense works not only because everyone can shoot, but because everyone can initiate the offense, run PNR and attack the basket.

    It's exactly the kind of roster Spurs need around Wemby.
    Forget twin towers, forget 10apg heliocentric playmakers or second options that can score 30 on regular basis.
    Just get one all-star and a bunch of elite role players and we're good to go because Wemby will unquestionably be the best player in the league in no time.
    Agree with this although I still think you need a Robin offensively. Wemby will have games where he is off, injured or playing through injuries, in foul trouble or just plain tired etc and that is when you need that second All Star caliber player to pick up the slack. Longer term I don’t see Vassell being that guy.

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    Agree with this although I still think you need a Robin offensively. Wemby will have games where he is off, injured or playing through injuries, in foul trouble or just plain tired etc and that is when you need that second All Star caliber player to pick up the slack. Longer term I don’t see Vassell being that guy.
    Obviously.
    But that second option should be someone who doesn't need to have a lot of time on the ball.
    That's why I've been repeating myself that Markkanen should be the primary target and that DJ should be in serious consideration for point guard position.
    Imagine Wemby with another 7 footer who shoots 40% from deep on 8 attempts, can score from anywhere and is a solid enough defender?
    And a two-way point guard on a team friendly deal.

    Volume shooting is where it's at in today's league.
    That's why I don't rate shooting splits from a lot of these players.
    Someone who's shooting in low 30s while being left wide open isn't a shooter.
    We need players that need to be chased around screens and closed down in order to create enough spacing for Wemby.

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    Anyone have Pelton's stats only big board?

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    Obviously.
    But that second option should be someone who doesn't need to have a lot of time on the ball.
    That's why I've been repeating myself that Markkanen should be the primary target and that DJ should be in serious consideration for point guard position.
    Imagine Wemby with another 7 footer who shoots 40% from deep on 8 attempts, can score from anywhere and is a solid enough defender?
    And a two-way point guard on a team friendly deal.

    Volume shooting is where it's at in today's league.
    That's why I don't rate shooting splits from a lot of these players.
    Someone who's shooting in low 30s while being left wide open isn't a shooter.
    We need players that need to be chased around screens and closed down in order to create enough spacing for Wemby.
    I’d be all for this and we have the assets to make it happen in short order quite honestly. A nucleus like that gets you in the pretender category and well positioned to win some playoff games while Wemby continues to develop. Would be tough to part with the ATL picks however as Im certain one of those picks could strike gold.

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    Bulls-Spurs trade?

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    I'd trade down to #11 if the Bulls eased the protections on the 2025 pick. Something like 1-10 protected to 1-5 protected instead...not sure if that's allowed?

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    Trading with the Bulls seems feasible. They have too many point guards.

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    I don’t want Lavine and they’re not gonna let go of White

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    I still think Castle/Salaun is the most likely scenario, but I could see Buzelis/Carter and would probably prefer it because at least in the case of Carter, he's the one of the four who I feel stands a good chance of at least being a quality sixth man.

    If they go with the latter combination, it'll most likely mean Jones' days are numbered. Even though Carter isn't a lead guard and plays much bigger than his height, in the end it's still two small or smallish role playing guards, which doesn't make sense to invest in long term.

    I kind of sense the same in his interviews, he talks about how he didn't watch basketball growing up, and looks almost too relaxed. That kind of put me off a bit. There are a lot of things I like about Buzelis, especially that combination of skills and fluidity to go along with size, but if he isn't perceived as a strong compe or then that takes a lot of the appeal for me. Starting to give me some Keith Van Horn vibes.
    Agreed. He also doesn't need the money, at least to the extent most do (granted, neither did David Lee, but you'd have never known it from the way he played) and lacks a bankable skill.

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    I'm in the camp of packaging #8 for Garland right now, with how this draft is turning out

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    I'm in the camp of packaging #8 for Garland right now, with how this draft is turning out
    Just get Dillingham, man. Won't pay anything for him. Way cheaper, he's Wembanyama's age, and good chance he'll be at least as good as Garland if not even better.

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    Anyone have Pelton's stats only big board?
    Don't think the Stats only is published, but the stats / model combo is here:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...best-prospects

    Reddit thread with the rankings here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/c...l_projections/

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    I'm in the camp of packaging #8 for Garland right now, with how this draft is turning out
    Hey, a friend

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    Castle/Dilly (Knecht)

    or

    Sheppard/C Williams (Castle, Buzelis, Holland)

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    Don't think the Stats only is published, but the stats / model combo is here:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...best-prospects

    Reddit thread with the rankings here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/c...l_projections/
    Makes me wonder what the Spurs would do if the best player on their board at #4 is a center...

    We're so lacking of talent that I wouldn't bat an eye if a big was selected. Then later package Collins + whatever for a wing or guard.

    Personally I find the guards and wings to be underwhelming, no one seems worthy of a #4 pick and barely an #8 pick. Saying that, it also makes me wonder what you can pull by offering the #4 and #8 picks.

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    Right now, regarding players potential availability at #4 and #8, I think the situation is the following:
    - Players who won't be there at #4 : Sarr and Risacher.
    - Players who could be there at #4 but won't be there at #8: Clingan, Sheppard, Buzelis and Castle.
    - Players who could be picked at #8 without being a huge reach: Dillingham, Knecht, Salaün, Topic, Holland, Cody Williams and Devin Carter.

    Personally, I would go with Castle at #4 and Cody Williams at #8.

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    Don't think the Stats only is published, but the stats / model combo is here:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...best-prospects

    Reddit thread with the rankings here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/c...l_projections/
    Edey at 4 is fascinating as I assume his age is factored in.
    8 is Furphy on this list. 7 Dillingham. 11 Collier!

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    Right now, regarding players potential availability at #4 and #8, I think the situation is the following:
    - Players who won't be there at #4 : Sarr and Risacher.
    - Players who could be there at #4 but won't be there at #8: Clingan, Sheppard, Buzelis and Castle.
    - Players who could be picked at #8 without being a huge reach: Dillingham, Knecht, Salaün, Topic, Holland, Cody Williams and Devin Carter.

    Personally, I would go with Castle at #4 and Cody Williams at #8.
    Under that scenario, are you viewing Castle long term as a PG/Primary initiator?

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    Right now, regarding players potential availability at #4 and #8, I think the situation is the following:
    - Players who won't be there at #4 : Sarr and Risacher.
    - Players who could be there at #4 but won't be there at #8: Clingan, Sheppard, Buzelis and Castle.
    - Players who could be picked at #8 without being a huge reach: Dillingham, Knecht, Salaün, Topic, Holland, Cody Williams and Devin Carter.

    Personally, I would go with Castle at #4 and Cody Williams at #8.
    If worst comes to worst (which it usually does) I would go with Castle at #4 and Topic at #8.

    Better yet, package 4 and 8 to move up and get Sarr (or at least try).

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    Under that scenario, are you viewing Castle long term as a PG/Primary initiator?
    Yes, I'm drafting him to play PG.

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    pistons and blazers? that's interesting. maybe he could go before the 8th pick.

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    If worst comes to worst (which it usually does) I would go with Castle at #4 and Topic at #8.

    Better yet, package 4 and 8 to move up and get Sarr (or at least try).
    No thanks on Topic when he's no longer got the big guard hype working for him. Now we see why he couldn't finish at the rim in Euroleague with the jump in level of compe ion vs the ABA. I wondered what the problem was where he went from superstar to scrub but the negative wingspan explains it pretty well. I wouldn't touch the guy with a pick earlier than the mid 20s. Hard to see him as anything higher than the 7th best PG in this class now.

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    pistons and blazers? that's interesting. maybe he could go before the 8th pick.
    please god

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    pistons and blazers? that's interesting. maybe he could go before the 8th pick.
    Probably just due diligence in working every lottery player out.

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