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The one thing that troubles me is this idea that Donovan Mitc wants to sign long-term with the Cavs. He’s been around long enough where he should want to win now, not sign up for a mediocre Cavs team.
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The one thing that troubles me is this idea that Donovan Mitc wants to sign long-term with the Cavs. He’s been around long enough where he should want to win now, not sign up for a mediocre Cavs team.
Doesn't Eric Zhang have more credibility than Amico?
spurs have an empty roster and a lot of picks
I hear you, but who is that guy? The Ingram thing is trickier for CLE than at first blush given his contract situation. Basically they have to immediately max him, on top of maxes for Mitc and Mobley.
The other thing is that CLE depleted their pick stores to get Mitc . Replenishing that shouldn’t be overlooked.
I wonder if the biggest threat to land Garland is Orlando. Suggs and Isaac would look nice other there.
if GayTLSpur were a GM we'd be stuck with Porzingis and Zach LaVine who both can't play cause they are injured all the time. But at least his fan favorite Josh "wait til you see my " Primo would be on the floor
getting Garland while keeping the ATL picks and making a run at Markkanen in '25 free agency would be some elite maneuvering by the FO. Especially when you can sign Markkanen to a frontloaded deal like they did with Keldon.
You’re not gonna sign him out right, it’s gonna be a Sign and trade.
That said don’t think you’re getting either one or both without those picks going the other way
All while stealth tanking for a bottom 4 record in 2024-25; precursors to our next dynasty. Subs ute Garland for DJ and i’ll twerk to the whisper song while giving Primo a tug.
not really. The Spurs can clear about 60 million in cap space by moving Graham, Jones, Keldon, Zach and Branham. You bring in Garland that has you at 92 plus 4th or 8th pick salary which is 7 to 5 million (at least one of them will be traded). The cap for 24-25 is 141 so for 25-26 it's like 150 million. Should be enough to sign Lauri. There's no way he should get over 40 mill.
Markkanen isn't getting to free agency. No one of that magnitude does anymore because the team will know beforehand whether they're re-signing and if not they'll be traded to a place they are.
I know Amico isn't the most credible source, but there's been too much Garland noise to ignore at this point.
If the Cavaliers can't pull off a Ingram trade, the Spurs chances should increase significantly. Of course, they'd still probably need a third team to give them a more sensible centerpiece than Johnson.
Only way he hits free agency is if Utah plays absolute hardball with him AND his suitors and he is determined to get out of Utah. Most likely scenario is someone pays a hefty price of draft assets just to renegotiate and extend him at max money.
The issue tho is that the team interested in a teade with Utah will want Lauri to garanty them he'll extend no?
It takes away some of Utah's leverage (unless it's for a salary dump, which I don't see)
Utah has a fair amount of leverage if Lauri wants out. They will either:
- renegotiate and extend him at or around max money (which means he can’t be traded before the 2025 deadline)
- negotiate a trade this summer to a team he agrees to renegotiate a contract with (again at or around max money)
- dump him at the trade deadline to the highest bidder who hope to resign him
Utah has a nice hand here of both sides agree they are going in different directions and Utah is easily going to get 2-3 lightly protected FRPs in some form or another.
I like Garland as a player, but what will it take to get him? Shouldn't he have about the same value as DJ?
If we give up a majority of our nice assets, where does this leave us with?
Garland-Vassel-24Rookie-Sochan-Wemby does not get us in contention unless one of the rookies really hit.
I guess, I'm still in the keep the pouder dry team.
All of those points are valid, but if they're dumping him at the deadline because he wants to leave, they're not getting anywhere near fair value for him.
Markkanen already said he wants to compete when they sat him in order to tank. There's no way he's signing an extension unless Jazz actually gets him some help and starts competing.
But then again, I don't think Markkanen is good enough to be 1A option on a serious playoff team and Jazz can't really build a team around him with players that will be available this summer.
2025 and 2026 drafts are projected to be really strong and with Markkanen being the best player available on 2024 summer market, they should cash him in, imo.
As for Garland, great fit offensively, I think he can get back on track, he's just a bad fit with Mitc .
But his defense is bad and his contract is kind of big if he doesn't get back on track offensively.
If he's cheap, go for him. If Cavs ask for too much, I'd rather not.
Either way, I'd prefer DJ on a team friendly deal over Garland.
As of today, I agree
But next season, in the 3rd case, teams won't offer much without garanties he'll extend
That was my point, same for OG to NY or Siakam to Indy. TOR diidn't get as much as they could've a summer before
The majority of players who say they’ll do whatever it takes to get a ring actually mean they’ll do whatever it takes as long as it doesn’t cost me a dime and many of those even add “and I get mine” in the process.
Trio of Garland, Vassell, and Wemby is definitely a playoff team next year. Sprinkle Sochan and sign a placeholder vet like Batum and that’s a formidable starting line up. The bench will be the weak point in the short run.
Risacher makes so much sense if Garland is the big play this summer.
I'm calling BS on Garland.
The guy has never played 70 games in his career (averages 61.4, missing over a 1/4 of the season each year on average) and to put that number in perspective, Joel Embiid averaged 55 games per season in the same time frame as a perennial MVP candidate in a much more rugged position and style.
Little and brittle... these small guards break down just as much as the big men.
Spurs cannot afford to have a max guy miss that amount of time during these key, Wemby shaping years.
having a broken jaw doesn't make you injury prone tbh. That's a very rare occasion
Two of those seasons were also the shortened covid seasons. The second one was 72 games, but the first was variable, depending on whether you went into the bubble or not. Cleveland did not, and finished at 65 games played. Garland played in every one of them.
Great points gents. Cheers.
With regards to Garland, there is an argument to be made that not only does his fit affect his performance on the Cavs, but the jaw injury may be affecting his performance more than we think - especially for someone who already deals with strength issues due to his slight frame:
https://x.com/bowser2bowser/status/1791130704048177336
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