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    Look, it’s a cop out answer but this stuff isn’t black or white. It’s not “Player A has upside but Player B is a safe role player”. There are low range outcomes, median outcomes, high-range outcomes and a million alternatives all in between.

    Ultimately it comes down to what those possible outcomes are, and what are the %s of each hitting. An “upside prospect” having a 30% chance of busting and 70% chance of becoming an all-star isn’t the same as an upside prospect with a 90% chance of busting and a 10% chance of actually becoming a star.

    In the case of Salaun: hate to say it but I view him more as the latter of those scenarios. And when the chances of a guy panning out are that low, then sorry but I’ll gladly take a guy with a higher floor whose ceiling might be a little lower. Keep in mind that it’s entirely possible for guys to end up having a ceiling that wasn’t perceived to be there. You can’t just harp on Salaun’s upside and then act like it’s 100% certainty that Knecht (just using as an example) will never be anything more than a role player.

    It just seems wild to me that people would only focus on the top 1% of outcomes and ignore what would play out the other 99% of times. I’m not saying upside is irrelevant but again there’s a spectrum here…and at some point just saying “well I want to gamble on the upside because role players are a dime a dozen” just doesn’t make sense.
    What tmvp’s artcle seemed to be saying is that there is a lack of actual players with even 10% star upside, and that Salaun was one of the few.

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    Sad that the next yinka date is a potential #8 pick in this draft. That said, I think the spurs should trade down to 15 or so to nab him and some other minor assets if that’s available. He could turn out good, like the next bam abedeyo, if he ever gets his footwork, iq up to par. That would be phenomenal.

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    What tmvp’s artcle seemed to be saying is that there is a lack of actual players with even 10% star upside, and that Salaun was one of the few.
    Has a player with such a poor understanding of basketball ever become a star? He has pathways to success, but it's not s om. I swear people just see a slab of meat and think basketball can be downloaded into their brains. Teams might as well draft pine trees.

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    doc rivers looking mother er

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    doc rivers looking mother er

    wonder if doc ever spent any time in France about 20 years ago.

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    What do you expect for a pick 8 in a bad draft? There are plenty of things Salaun can't do and will probably never be asked to do, but he has excellent qualities to be a good role player.

    It's a fantastic energizer, for worse, but often for better. Currently in the final of the French ProA, there is Nadir Hifi who also plays this role in a completely different position. They are instinctive players who work like dogs on defense and who make three-point shots from elsewhere. Salaun is Bruce Banner who can transform into the incredible Hulk without warning and pull out a brilliant action that will knock out the opposing team and delight his team's fans.

    Some should perhaps think about stopping trying to have complete players capable of doing everything in all positions at the risk of seeing average players in all sectors. Salaun, you ask him for energy, three-pointers, madness, work ethic. It's a sort of mix between Toppin, Gordon and Manu. It won't be Superman or Iron-man. But the incredible Hulk. And sometimes, just Matt B[a]nner with no shot.

    Yes, he's R.A.W. : Roar. Athletic. Wow. Give Hulk some love.

    (I doubt he ends up at the Spurs though. So relax. Anyone the Spurs have their eye on ends up in Portland.)

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    People are so desperate to distract from the fact that this guy can't play basketball they're breaking out their comic books.

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    I'm hoping the Spurs pick him just to see this place be salty for about 6 years.

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    Once the Spurs finish developing Cissokosanity into a superstar SA will terrrorize the league with that TIDDY SIDY death squad lineup /s
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    Portland is going to have invest in new rims after Dunn and Holland are through with them.

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    I'm hoping the Spurs pick him just to see this place be salty for about 6 years.
    Salaun thread!

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    ^^^ lefty, is that Lionel Missi?

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    Okay. sign me up!

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    Portland is going to have invest in new rims after Dunn and Holland are through with them.
    Doing their part to solve the West Coast housing shortage.

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    Yeah, we don't need to spend more time talking about this guy. Next.

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    Oh man this guy is definitely the pick at 8.

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