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Spurs have a chance to do what's practically impossible in today's NBA, which is throttle people defensively.
Leaning into defense and bringing up the rest may be the best or easiest way forward.
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Spurs have a chance to do what's practically impossible in today's NBA, which is throttle people defensively.
Leaning into defense and bringing up the rest may be the best or easiest way forward.
Yea I spoke on this a while back in the Draft thread when people were bringing him up. About the character concerns and what not. It looks like he took it down (prob at the advice of his agent) but he recently posted a video on his IG last month of him flashing his diamond-studded jewelry and a grill. Saw that and immediately thought he wasn't Spurs material tbh.
i was pretty high on Holland, too. yes the shot is awful, but ive also consistently said that you can get away with picking a non shooter if he is exceptional somewhere else, and i thought he fit the bill. but if he's going to sink, then that simplifies the board some. castle was my next highest rated wing... though if he's serious about the point guard only thing, bumps cody williams up
my new board is probably
risacher
sheppard/dillingham (im still a coward)
sarr
castle
buzelis
williams
clingan
knecht
collier
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Looking at all the reports, feels like top4 are set in stone unless Rockets trade their pick.
Sarr, Risacher, Sheppard, Castle.
I don't think anyone other than could disrupt those four picks in whatever order they get selected.
Then it gets a bit more interesting.
Pistons should go with either Buzelis (bonus points for nepotism) or Knecht if their new front office wants to move off the bottom, which would be a dumb move. Maybe Clingan.
Hornets need a defender with size, they'd love Castle if he drops, Holland fits their M.O. perfectly.
Blazers also need all the wings they can get, but I can see them going for Clingan if he drops. Otherwise it's Buzelis/Holland/Williams/Salaun.
So what “off the court” issues does Holland have that caused him to totally drop? I saw that guy from NoCeilings mention it on Twitter but it was pretty vague/cryptic with little actual information. Is he selfish? Bad work ethic? Legitimately curious because I haven’t actually seen any real reasons.
Posting a video with jewelry and a grill doesn’t count as an “off the court issue” IMO
i have no idea tbh, but if its true that he's falling to that point, doesnt make sense to include him in rankings when we only have top 8 picks. in a vacuum i would still have put him one slot above castle though i know im in the minority thereSo what “off the court” issues does Holland have that caused him to totally drop? I saw that guy from NoCeilings mention it on Twitter but it was pretty vague/cryptic with little actual information. Is he selfish? Bad work ethic? Legitimately curious because I haven’t actually seen any real reasons.
Posting a video with jewelry and a grill doesn’t count as an “off the court issue” IMO
I just don’t know if I fully buy the chatter that he’s falling out of the lottery. Hard to believe reports this time of year because you never about ulterior motives. If Holland really does fall out of the top 10 I think it’s a pretty shocking development given how this class looks…unless there are some seriously terrible off-court issues (which again, to this point haven’t actually seen any tangible reporting on it).
He’s still firmly in play at 8 to me. If we get Sheppard at 4 then Holland is probably my #1 guy who projects to be available at 8. If we get Risacher or Castle at 4, then I probably give the edge to Dillingham.
The Spurs brought in Gary Neal. They've nary room.
Didn't GG Jackson fall because he was vaping during workouts?
This sounds like teams in the 10-20 range leaking some stuff to try and get Holland to fall tbh
And primo who was “mature for his age” yet flashes women in private. Pun intended.
Eric Pincus predicts based on his intel the top 4 go Sarr, Clingan, Reed, Risarcher to SA. Devin Carter at 8. Missi at 35 and Adjinca at 48. I could go for that!
I’m mystified as to why Buzelis hasn’t received more attention on this message board. He fits the same archetype as Risacher (who has gotten a lot more attention) as a jumbo, do-it-all combo forward.
Granted, he’s not as good a shooter (or basketball player, quite frankly) as Risacher at this stage. But he’s more athletic and shown flashes of playmaking ability (something Risacher currently lacks), giving him more theoretical upside.
I could see that as well, idk about Clingan at 2 but WAS is a wildcard. If we come away with Risacher and Carter that might be one of the best case scenarios
Other than his 3pt shooting (a big deal), apparently he doesn't have a great motor and hasn't shown a lot of enthousiam/fighting spirit during is Ignite season.
Not sure what to think of him tbh but he seems a bit too "chill", maybe it's over confidence, in his interviews and body language
hes closer to sochan than risacher
risacher isn't a "do-it-all forward"
Filipowski is sliding into the early second in some mocks. Would be someone I'd love for us to try to trade up for if he is slipping past 25. You might be able to get him at 35, even.
Not a Filipowski fan, but his skill set is for sure worth a pick in the mid 20s. Definitely worth trading up for if he slips that far... but I don't think that will be the case.
Risacher is more of a shooting specialist who can stay in front of wings while Buzelis is a bricklaying hustle player who is good at helping rim protection
It's like comparing Cam Johnson to Luka Samanic.
Agreed, not even a TMVP thread on him yet
I dunno. I only see that if Clingon goes #1 (apparently coach Snider likes him a lot), and Sarr falls to WAS. Otherwise I think WAS takes ZR at 2.
Listened to Simmons/Rusillo today and Rusillo said that talking around the league and GMs don’t think the Sarr and Risacher are the slam dunk top 2 picks.
KOC said it was time to admit this draft is a good one. He said he talked to four GMs and all of them really like this draft. He basically said they thought 8 different players could go top 5.
Yeah, not someone I want to build the franchise around - but I think he would be an immediate contributor as a backup big.
If we’re going off the premise that the Spurs want size and switch-ability on defense like the Celtics. It seems like we have a few combos at 4/8 in some combination of: Castle, Risacher, Buzelis, Williams, Holland, Salaun, Carter (I think he plays big enough to even guard SFs on switches). Does Carrington count? He’s not a strong defender yet but improved as the season went on. He can certainly guard both guard spots. Not sure about SFs.
That would seem to eliminate Dilly, Sheppard, Clingan. Can Sarr defend PF, C or not embarrass himself if he gets caught on a switch on the perimeter? McCain probably is too small to be a switchable defender.
Am I missing anyone?
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