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Turn was a King.
She went All In. Chump called.
I don't remember what the River was.
QQ both red. Shirley
Qc 10c Fabbs
10 spades ___ (did not show other card) Chumpdumper
Flop
10 10 Q
That is 2 outer, 1 outer, 1 outer.
What are the percentages of that Flop happening?
Bandwidth saver: I folded preflop so you'll have to fantasize any schadenfreude.
Turn was a King.
She went All In. Chump called.
I don't remember what the River was.
Who had the BB?
None of the 3.
I had racked my chips and was going to leave before my BB. I have seriously suspected this place of cheating and the LONG delay before the hand raised my Spidey senses.
I know Chump was 2 before the dealer button and Shirley was the dealer button.
It was the deck change before the hand. Standard operationg procedure, i think this place does it every 2 hours.
However after the dealer did the whole spread the card and shuffle both decks, out comes a card runner with an entire 2 other new decks.
Like i said this place reeks of schemery, like most casinos do. But his one has extra schenannigans so i am careful as when cir stances are Im playing there.
You never know. If I suspected anything at all I'd cash in my chips and leave.
You believe off suit 7&2 always beats pocket aces?
I know someone from a re o-universe willing to lay down money on that premise.
Awww please. Bullets are overrated. I've beaten them with "lesser" hands like cowboys, ladies, fishhooks, The Dog, jacks'n 5, baby pocket pair, ace-rag, suited connectors, the dead man's hand, and yes, even The Hammer.
Jokes aside, pocket aces are really a curse. You never want to lay them down but you also feel the intense need to get them paid off, like cooking a turkey for Thanksgiving or something. You don't want to go past the flop more than heads-up but you also don't want to shove too early and scare everyone else into folding. You're hoping for the driest possible flop and also hoping that someone with one of the "lesser" hands didn't hit a sneaky set or gutshot straight draw that they're willing to play on for.
Thanks for telling us what to hope for on the flop if we have pocket aces. What a revelation
with pocket aces, pretty much a rainbow board with an ace is the only place where you can slow play and hope for a check raise re-raise call scenario. Any flop without an ace is a concern, a rainbow board with spaced out lower cards is probably your next best bet but you've still got to play that somewhat aggressively. You never just check or call there. Third pot bets if you're out of position, re-raise if you're in position. If the board on the flop is wet, suited, and full of draw potential, and you still didn't get your third ace, now's probably the time to shove or potentially even fold if it's bad enough. You want to pay off the aces but you don't want to allow someone counting on a draw get to see a cheap or free turn card which could make their flush, straight, set, boat etc. That said if it's three of the same suit and they're shoving you all in there's a good chance they could already have the nuts and there's only an outside shot that they're bluffing. If your ace happens to match that suit you call because you have enough outs to justify it, otherwise fold.
I hate pocket aces. I feel like every time it happens you get ed on the flop and baited into staying in a hand you should have left.
I would much rather have something suited on a flush draw. Or even a straight draw. You might not actually win the hand straight up, but I feel like you can bluff your way out of it if your opponent sees too many of one suit on the flop.
I wish they'd haul your ass behind frosted glass like in "The Hustler" ...then that pretty little wife of yours would have to wipe your rump for 6 weeks.
An all-in pocket aces pre-flop would get rid of any 7&2 wannabes. Even so, pocket aces win 85% of the time against one opponent holding a random hand in Texas Holdem.
However, in a retartdo-universe, this translates to off suit 7&2 always beating pocket aces.
Who gets pocket aces and calls?
Doyle Branson info got outdated since he wrote his book.
That having been said, imo it's still true his comment that generally speaking "It seems like pocket Aces are good for two things, either winning a small pot or losing a big one."
Yes I'm a little bit jaded. I've never won with pocket aces
You don't. It's a rookie mistake thinking you are going to hit on the flop or the river. I would let the flop fall and if nothing looks promising I would fold.
I've seen guys push in a bunch of chips thinking of those aces will hold up. Someone cleans them out with a full house and they walk away broke
You apparently know like I know, poker is strategy and not math. I'm not sure why fabbs brought math strategy into a poker conversation.
You know like I know that seeing that straight draw or flush draw and forcing someone to fold is much more sound than holding on to those pocket aces. At the end of the day, it's all about gauging the for ude of the other man in front of you. He will act different with a winning hand.
But all that said, I haven't played a lot of pro level players. It is mostly randoms at the casinos. Their nonverbals are easy to spot
On one on one, pocket aces has advantage pre-flop so saying off suit 7&2 always wins is stupid.Yes I'm a little bit jaded. I've never won with pocket aces
Would you call with an off suit 7&2 pre-flop? Me, it is an automatic fold.
2/10 got a little chuckle.
The math is overated to be sure.
But to say it's not involved in the strategy at all.
All in with pocket aces pre flop and you're most likely picking up the ing blinds and that's it.Unless you're in late position and you get lucky and someone else shoves or bets or even limps pre flop... but the limpers aren't going to call an all in shove.
exactly. that's why I'll typically wear a hat and pair of shades and keep my mouth under wraps of my hands the whole time like Phil muth does.
Yeah. I love playing hands like jack-ten suited, especially from late position. Easy to walk away from and a fairly good chance to win a very large pot.
With pocket aces if you don't hit that third ace you might be screwed, if you do hit that third ace you're probably winning a small pot either way because if you check and slow play the chances are others aren't going to bet unless they hit something else and if you bet / raise you're probably going to get everyone else to fold because they'll put you on at least one ace in the hole.
The only time you win a big pot with pocket aces is if you get lucky and someone else has shoved or similar, or if you hit the third ace and someone else also hits a lower set with a pocket pair but that's unlikely.
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