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    I would kill to have Brandon Miller on this roster starting at PF. Absolutely trade 4+35 for 2 for that.

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    No way you trade up to get Risacher.

    He's Jabari Smith, Brandon Miller -- no bust factor at all. You could do way worse.

    But you don't trade up for that.
    I don’t think you watched much of Brandon miller if you think that.

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    Brandon Miller >> Risacher. Get real.

    But I agree, I’m not trading up for Risacher either. Especially with so many better wing prospects expected in the lottery next year.

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    COMPLETELY IGNORING the player that would be taken at #2, and whether you should move up to #2 for him, I think 4 + 35 + a future SRP should be more than enough to move from #4 to #2. I am with Mr. Body that 4+8 is a major major major overpay, especially in a flat draft. 4 + 35 alone may honest be enough to get it done. Considering the Spurs very likely do not want to bring in 3+ rookies this year, that's a move I'd do from a value POV (though I don't necessarily love Risacher).
    4+8 for 2 is disgusting, but 4+35, while a slight overpay, is doable.

    This exercise only makes sense if they are swinging for Garland with 8. Otherwise I’m not contorting myself to get ZR, at the risk on losing out on Castle at 4.

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    I don't mind including 35 with 4 in a move up because I don't think the Spurs property value picks in the 30s after trading the one last year for 2 weaker seconds.

    Better to lose it in a move up than a future move down

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    I don’t think you watched much of Brandon miller if you think that.
    Not even a 5' clip

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    I don't mind including 35 with 4 in a move up because I don't think the Spurs property value picks in the 30s after trading the one last year for 2 weaker seconds.

    Better to lose it in a move up than a future move down
    SRPs seem like tools to keep agents happy tbh.

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    The Spurs finally land their first star and fans want to settle for mediocrity so quickly by going after mid role players. We deserve more years of losing at this rate.

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    I don't mind including 35 with 4 in a move up because I don't think the Spurs property value picks in the 30s after trading the one last year for 2 weaker seconds.

    Better to lose it in a move up than a future move down
    You must have a crystal ball if you know the value of two SRPs in 2026 and 2028.

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    The Spurs finally land their first star and fans want to settle for mediocrity so quickly by going after mid role players. We deserve more years of losing at this rate.
    I would argue a 6'9"/6'10" ish player that can defend and shoot the three is far from mediocre. In fact, it is the exact type of player you need to have in your roster if you want to win.

    You know what type of player isn't a prototype you want to have in your roster if you want to win championships? A Trae Young type, and, I might be wrong, but I think you were a supporter of such a move.

    You are going about this whole thing with the complete oposite mindset. It is exactly because we got Wemby that we need to go for more sure prospects in the draft. I would rather secure a 6'9" 3 and D role player than take a swing on a high ceiling, but likely bust prospect. If we didn't had Wemby, I would be fine with going for someone like Holland hoping he pans out, but since we got Wemby, I would rather draft a guy with a higher chance of sticking and being a good fit next to him.

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    With the Spurs confirmed to be working out Risacher and Salaun, I’d assume they bring in Buzelis for one too (if they haven’t already). If they deem Zach is worth trading up for by being significantly better than them both (maybe just safer/better fit?), cool, I’d have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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    With the Spurs confirmed to be working out Risacher and Salaun, I’d assume they bring in Buzelis for one too (if they haven’t already). If they deem Zach is worth trading up for by being significantly better than them both (maybe just safer/better fit?), cool, I’d have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    I have no idea of what you just said.

    But I dig it!

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    Plenty of examples have been provided of this happening already.
    List them

    Draymond Green and Herbert Jones is about it.

    Far more misses at 35

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    You must have a crystal ball if you know the value of two SRPs in 2026 and 2028.
    Spurs traded the 33rd pick for Utah's '26 SRP and Minnesota's '28 SRP, so yeah, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet those picks will be significantly worse, no crystal ball required.

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    Spurs traded the 33rd pick for Utah's '26 SRP and Minnesota's '28 SRP, so yeah, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet those picks will be significantly worse, no crystal ball required.
    One of those picks was five years away when the trade was made, the other three years, so you don’t know about what they will be. You might as well spin yourself around blindfolded,and try to throw a dart at a dart board.

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    One of those picks was five years away when the trade was made, the other three years, so you don’t know about what they will be. You might as well spin yourself around blindfolded,and try to throw a dart at a dart board.
    Sure, but I know of 30 possible landing places, 2 are better and 27 are worse. Last I checked, 2 < 27

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    Basing decisions on the '24 draft on the '25 one is fools gold, especially with an overly conservative, rigid organization like this.

    Bird in the hand.

    The Spurs finally land their first star and fans want to settle for mediocrity so quickly by going after mid role players. We deserve more years of losing at this rate.
    My thoughts exactly. Avoid Castle at all costs . . . I knew you'd see it my way.

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    Can't get a big wing like this anywhere but the draft. Teams hold unto this guys regardless of their lifecycle. A lot hold on to 2 or more of these. They are frictionless ceiling raisers. 4 and 8 is steep but this is the a puzzle piece you can't get at any point after the draft.

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    Most three and D only guys go later in the draft. What are you talking about?

    The problem here is that he doesn't do anything beside those two things and that he's questionable on both.

    A lot of support in picking him doesn't even have to do with him as a player, it's him as a template, which is a major problem.

    You shouldn't be drafting templates, you should be drafting the player. But no one's actually supporting or defending him as a player. He's just what they think the team needs in terms of a player archetype. That's kind of a yikes from me.

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    Most three and D only guys go later in the draft. What are you talking about?

    The problem here is that he doesn't do anything beside those two things and that he's questionable on both.

    A lot of support in picking him doesn't even have to do with him as a player, it's him as a template, which is a major problem.

    You shouldn't be drafting templates, you should be drafting the player. But no one's actually supporting or defending him as a player. He's just what they think the team needs in terms of a player archetype. That's kind of a yikes from me.
    There is barely any 3 and D big wings in the league. Is there one in 2023?

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    The Spurs finally land their first star and fans want to settle for mediocrity so quickly by going after mid role players. We deserve more years of losing at this rate.
    Yes why aren't Spurs fans manifesting a star out of thin air in this draft? Shame on them!


    Such a weird comment.

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    There is barely any 3 and D big wings in the league. Is there one in 2023?
    Exactly. I don't think players who can hit a three when left wide open in the corner should classify as 3-D.
    McDaniels getting $130M from Minnesota says a lot. There aren't many 3-D wings who can hit threes on high volume.

    Anunoby is probably the best 3-D guy that doesn't do much else and he'll get close to $40M a year from the Knicks.
    And I'd argue that he's worth it when healthy.

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    Yes why aren't Spurs fans manifesting a star out of thin air in this draft? Shame on them!


    Such a weird comment.
    Not even close to how my comment should be interpreted.

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    Not even close to how my comment should be interpreted.
    Then maybe you should stop posting like a teenage girl on Instagram and actually say what you mean?

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    Exactly. I don't think players who can hit a three when left wide open in the corner should classify as 3-D.
    McDaniels getting $130M from Minnesota says a lot. There aren't many 3-D wings who can hit threes on high volume.

    Anunoby is probably the best 3-D guy that doesn't do much else and he'll get close to $40M a year from the Knicks.
    And I'd argue that he's worth it when healthy.
    You know maybe looking at these overpaid 3 and D players in the league and the team they’re on and how they’re not that successful should tell you something. Minnesota isn’t where they are because of Jaden. It’s because they have three “psuedo stars” (as TD 21 likes to say) carry them. Anunoby doesn’t even raise their ceiling and is probably a reason why it will never be raised because they’re locked on to him. You’re making correlations here and failing to look at the results. Saying “look at these highly paid players! This is a good reason to invest a top 5 pick on one!” is far too simplistic.

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