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  1. #9576
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    I don't know why this is hard for you to understand. Bub Carrington is not a good player. He kind of sucks. People are acting like he's this superb get in the draft. I'm saying - no - he's exactly like these other players who had a long way to go. Carrington doesn't project to be any better or worse than those players because he sucks now. There's no projection at all, much less pretending that sucking is the same as going to be good. And the idea that Carrington fired off all kinds of threes and hit barely any of them doesn't give me much confidence. It certainly doesn't say "three level scorer." I can find some eight year old in a gym who is a "three level scorer" by that metric.

    Carrington is a massive project and acting otherwise is stupid.

    This is not hard to understand.
    Dude, 32% from 3 on 6.5 attempts per game, while shooting most of those off the drible, step backs and even fade aways is ing great for a teenage freshman, the are you talking about?

    Heck, Trae, who was thought as a great shooter, shot 34% from 3 on that same 3pt look diet.

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    If you were to group the lottery prospects into tiers, how would you do it? Here's what I think:

    Tier 1
    - Zaccharie Risacher
    - Alex Sarr

    Tier 2
    - Donovan Clingan
    - Reed Sheppard
    - Matas Buzelis
    - Stephon Castle

    Tier 3
    - Rob Dillingham
    - Dalton Knecht
    - Tidjane Salaun
    - Nikola Topic
    - Ron Holland
    - Cody Williams

    Tier 4
    - Devin Carter
    - Ja'Kobe Walter

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    If you were to group the lottery prospects into tiers, how would you do it? Here's what I think:

    Tier 1
    - Zaccharie Risacher
    - Alex Sarr

    Tier 2
    - Donovan Clingan
    - Reed Sheppard
    - Matas Buzelis
    - Stephon Castle

    Tier 3
    - Rob Dillingham
    - Dalton Knecht
    - Tidjane Salaun
    - Nikola Topic
    - Ron Holland
    - Cody Williams

    Tier 4
    - Devin Carter
    - Ja'Kobe Walter
    The way I look at tiers is that you would under no cir stance draft a player from a lower tier ahead of a player from a higher tier. So with that said, the tiers is very team dependent. So, my personal tiers, with the Spurs specifically in mind:

    Tier 1:

    Buzelis
    Sheppard
    Dillingham
    Castle
    Risacher

    Tier 2:

    Holland
    Carter

    Tier 3:

    Williams
    Knecht
    Sarr
    Clingan

    Tier 4:

    Topic
    McCain
    Walter
    Collier
    Tyler Smith
    Furphy
    Filipowski

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    Obviously take with a grain of salt but…seems like the chatter around this keeps getting louder. Maybe he’s just repeating what other reports have hinted at though

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    from a spurs-centric perspective, here's probably how i do it

    Tier 1 - I would be happy if we selected him at #4 overall

    Risacher
    Sheppard
    Dillingham

    Tier 2 - I would be content with selecting him at #4, but would be happy getting him at #8

    Sarr
    Holland
    Castle* (not point guard)

    Tier 3 - I would be content with selecting him at #8
    Buzelis
    Cody Williams
    Clingan

    Tier 4 - I could live with selecting him at #8

    Knecht
    Topic
    Collier
    Carter
    anybody else (read: Salaun) would be

    sarr is a weird one because the fit isnt obvious but at some point you bet on the player talent and figure it out later. its also why i have clingan in tier 3
    Last edited by spurraider21; 06-13-2024 at 08:09 PM.

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    Obviously take with a grain of salt but…seems like the chatter around this keeps getting louder. Maybe he’s just repeating what other reports have hinted at though
    In a relatively flat draft, taking someone like Clingan who could theoretically help them the most the next 3 years makes lots of sense especially considering their window and all the draft picks owed to the Spurs.

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    If you were to group the lottery prospects into tiers, how would you do it? Here's what I think:

    Tier 1
    - Zaccharie Risacher
    - Alex Sarr

    Tier 2
    - Donovan Clingan
    - Reed Sheppard
    - Matas Buzelis
    - Stephon Castle

    Tier 3
    - Rob Dillingham
    - Dalton Knecht
    - Tidjane Salaun
    - Nikola Topic
    - Ron Holland
    - Cody Williams

    Tier 4
    - Devin Carter
    - Ja'Kobe Walter
    2024 NBA Draft Board
    Tier 1:
    1. Zaccharie Risacher
    2. Alex Sarr
    3. Matas Buzelis
    Tier 2:
    4. Reed Shephard
    5. Cody Williams
    6. Stephen Castle
    7. Dalton Knecht
    8. Tidjane Salaun
    9. Donovan Clingan
    Tier 3:
    10. Robert Dillingham
    11. Isaiah Collier
    12. JaKobe Walter
    13. Kyle Filipowski
    14. Nikola Topic
    15. Ron Holland
    16. Johnny Furphy
    17. Jared McCain
    18. Devin Carter
    Tier 4:
    19. Tyler Smith
    20. Ke'lel Ware
    21. Yves Missi
    22. Zach Edey
    23. Bobi Klintman
    24. Kyshawn George
    Tier 5:
    25. Pacome Dadiet
    26. Trevon Brazile
    27. Baylor Scheierman
    28. Melvin Ajinca
    29. Tristan Da Silva
    30. Pelle Larsson

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    Really good off-season outlook article from ESPN here, for those curious about other team's situations: https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...-draft-outlook

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    Could be a big ol’ nothing burger…However,
    Saw that Boogie Ellis just pulled out of his Pacers Workout.
    Recently worked out for Spurs and Magic.
    Could be a target at #48…Has a similar body type to Rob Dillingham…

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    Just please no Bustzelis or Saluoff. Anyone but these two losers who can't hit the backside of a barn.

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    For those getting on Bub Carrington, he really is in the 'what if he puts it all together' mold of Blake Wesley and Malaki Branham. In fact...

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...--blake-wesley

    In pretty much every way he'd be behind Malaki coming out of college and more or less equivalent with Blake.
    I know they haven't worked in any good way, but I still think that Malaki and Blake were good prospects to bet on in terms of upside and creation at that point in the draft. Malaki was OK but young, Blake was kind of objectively not good but you could see that he generated rim pressure at an outstanding level.

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    Obviously take with a grain of salt but…seems like the chatter around this keeps getting louder. Maybe he’s just repeating what other reports have hinted at though
    In a relatively flat draft, taking someone like Clingan who could theoretically help them the most the next 3 years makes lots of sense especially considering their window and all the draft picks owed to the Spurs.

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    Really good off-season outlook article from ESPN here, for those curious about other team's situations: https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...-draft-outlook
    What does it say about SA? What is the future asset score? Thanks. I don’t subscribe to ESPN.

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    Dude, 32% from 3 on 6.5 attempts per game, while shooting most of those off the drible, step backs and even fade aways is ing great for a teenage freshman, the are you talking about?

    Heck, Trae, who was thought as a great shooter, shot 34% from 3 on that same 3pt look diet.
    Yeah, man. Bub Carrington is a theoretical player. Branham could have been shooting the same shots and you would have been getting a chubby over him, too. I guess you didn't watch Carrington, and no one watched Carrington, you just watched clips packages and are jerking off furiously. Because he wasn't good.

    He is just as theoretical as Branham and Wesley were. He's a project, just like they are. And frankly, just getting wildly optimistic because a player has a certain shot diet, when he's not yet a good shooter, is pretty wild. Might as well get excited about Ja'Kobe Walter. No, you're just following the crowd.

    This is NOT hard to understand. Get your hands out of your pants.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...tor-wembanyama

    ESPN article on who the best fits would be next to Wemby. Nothing earth-shattering but the below are the top 3 (in order) at each pick:

    4th: Sheppard, Dillingham, Risacher

    8th: Topic, Knecht, Salaun (bleh on these 3)

    35th: Terrance Shannon, Adem Bona, Juan Nunez

    48th: Cam Spencer, Jaylen Wells, Bronny James

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    Wouldn't be an ESPN draft article if they didn't include ledip 's spawn in there.

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    I know they haven't worked in any good way, but I still think that Malaki and Blake were good prospects to bet on in terms of upside and creation at that point in the draft. Malaki was OK but young, Blake was kind of objectively not good but you could see that he generated rim pressure at an outstanding level.
    I liked the picks in 2022 and I would be ready to move on. they placed a bet and it didn't work, no big deal. if this was a different sport or league, they would go out on loan and see if they can develop in an other environment.
    but with limited roster spots and many picks to come in, I would take the new chance over them, even if the new bet (call him Carrington) doesn't offer better odds than those two did two years ago.

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    I know they haven't worked in any good way, but I still think that Malaki and Blake were good prospects to bet on in terms of upside and creation at that point in the draft. Malaki was OK but young, Blake was kind of objectively not good but you could see that he generated rim pressure at an outstanding level.
    They were totally good bets and the story's not over for them. I think Branham will get more play. I don't think Blake will stick, but he's young and can still develop somewhere.

    Like always, people do a lot of ing without going in and seeing what the landscape of a draft actually was. Looking at who was available in the late first and on in 2022, one could certainly make a case for other players, but none of them seem like obvious picks. Maybe Andrew Nembhard, but the team already had Tre Jones as a backup point.

    What's going on with the Blake/Branham picks is exactly what the Carrington pick would be -- a swing on a young player who has pieces but hasn't put it together. Those are fine swings. They also happened before Wembanyama. Arguably the team doesn't need to take swings on these types anymore. The timeline has changed.

    Also, for everyone ing about shooting on this team, Branham was that shooting type. Then, when we get that shooting type, everyone switches to ing about their defense. I'm full-on convinced most of this board is going to about the same players they insist that we draft this year.

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    Yeah, man. Bub Carrington is a theoretical player. Branham could have been shooting the same shots and you would have been getting a chubby over him, too. I guess you didn't watch Carrington, and no one watched Carrington, you just watched clips packages and are jerking off furiously. Because he wasn't good.

    He is just as theoretical as Branham and Wesley were. He's a project, just like they are. And frankly, just getting wildly optimistic because a player has a certain shot diet, when he's not yet a good shooter, is pretty wild. Might as well get excited about Ja'Kobe Walter. No, you're just following the crowd.

    This is NOT hard to understand. Get your hands out of your pants.
    FWIW, I have watched 3 full games from Carrington. You have the full games on youtube.

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    If you were to group the lottery prospects into tiers, how would you do it?
    Tier 3
    - Alex Sarr
    - Zaccharie Risacher

    Tier 4
    - Donovan Clingan
    - Reed Sheppard
    - Matas Buzelis
    - Stephon Castle

    Tier 5
    - Rob Dillingham
    - Ron Holland
    - Devin Carter
    - Cody Williams
    - Dalton Knecht

    Tier 6
    - Tidjane Salaun
    - Ja'Kobe Walter

    Tier 7
    - Nikola Topic

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    Wouldn't be an ESPN draft article if they didn't include ledip 's spawn in there.
    ROFL ESPN acting like anyone would piss away a draft pick on that scrub if daddy isn't coming along

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    Please god let Clingan go Top 3 tbh

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    ROFL ESPN acting like anyone would piss away a draft pick on that scrub if daddy isn't coming along
    I need the Suns to waste a 1st rounder on him if Jeanie & Co. don't take him at #17 tbh. I'd die laughing if either scenario happened.

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    Really good off-season outlook article from ESPN here, for those curious about other team's situations: https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...-draft-outlook
    Can you post the TL;DR for Spurs section?

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    Can you post the TL;DR for Spurs section?
    Have tons of draft capital over the next 7 years. Wemby is a center. Need a PG with size and shooting around Wemby. Need a second banana that can get his (or her?) own shot. Could have $20 million in cap space if they waive Graham and Bassey before July 1. Need upgrades at every position, especially the bench.

    They don’t mention any current Spur as a real piece around Wemby.

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