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One could say I'm the black guy on this case.
Oh no, they've got you too.
This is like one of those awful zombie apocalypse movies that's been made 10000 times where one by one they infect people until there's almost no one left . . . luckily, I'm the star of this movie though, which means I'm going to singlehandedly fend off the masses and find some antidote that magically changes things back to normal.
One could say I'm the black guy on this case.
I don't know, I'm not gonna sweat it too much. Hopefully PATFO gets it right this time.
Nah, it's too far into the movie . . . you'd have been the first to go in that case.One could say I'm the black guy on this case.
no matter how hard i squint or how much i tilt my head, i just really dont see a point guard in castle... and if thats the role he's being drafted for (ie, if drafting him rules out drafting a real point guard at 8), then this is turning into a very disappointing scenario imo
castle being drafed as a wing to be a defender who can find a role on offense without being a great shooter like lance stephenson is fine, and then starting developing at least a corner 3 point shot would be gravy. but the point guard stuff isnt resonating with me. he's not sudden enough with the ball in his hands. he cant punish defenders going under screens, as he cant pull up for 3 and also has no midrange game. a lot of people are throwing weird jimmy butler comps as if castle shows signs of a good midrange/post game or something, which he just doesnt. i think lance is a lot closer. or younger tony allen with less hops.
Last edited by spurraider21; 06-12-2024 at 08:11 PM.
the more i think on it the more i think the Lance Stephenson comp is the one ive been looking for all along (albeit polar opposite from the mental/character standpoint). or a poor man's iguodala (not remotely as quick or athletic)
taking him at 4 as a point guard means you are betting on him being more tyreke evans, but i see virtually none of that out of him in uconn. high school tape isnt compelling evidence to me
I know what you’re saying about scoring but I worry about years of Sheppard getting isolated on defense.
White has ALWAYS been a ing elite defender. His blarges (blocks/charges drawn) were off the charts.
He wasn't seen as an elite defender coming up the draft.
This guy analyzes Castle's shooting form at the 7:00 minute mark:
It seems like the same fix that Kawhi needed: shoot it from your eyes, instead of above your head. It might be an easy enough fix, specially 'cause he seems to have a nice soft touch, tbh.
Yeah he will get shot over some but having a generational defender behind you will cover a mul ude of ills. Being able shoot level he can is huge need and outweighs the potential defensive issues
Towards the end they ask Krysten what is her y draft take.
”The Spurs are going to draft Stephon Castle…but they are going to have to trade up to do it…”
Sounds like Washington at #2 if there is indeed smoke there…
Last edited by PhantomDashCam; 06-14-2024 at 12:15 AM.
Well, it's a y hot take, so she's going out on a limb. That said, I do think Castle is the target for the Spurs rather than Risacher. I absolutely would not trade up to get Risacher. Castle is the real get here, especially in this draft. The question is how much I'd give up to get him when I'm super reluctant to move up at all.
My feeling is the Spurs just call everyone's bluff who wants to move down.
They don’t want to get Ainged.
If they don’t take him with 4, they will def need to trade up. But I don’t buy anyone in the lotto desperate to trade up to 1 or 2. That’s more hopefully dreaming by ATL and WAS.
Yes, definitely agree. This was kind of my point when I was saying that getting a top one or two pick on this draft wasn't really great, that you'd be stuck picking and paying for a role player. Atlanta and Washington get the advantage of who they want, but it's not really worth it in this draft. A pick 4 is nice because it starts splitting the difference. The problem is if you really like a player you might not get.
There's no reason to trade up, one of Castle, Risacher, Sheppard will be there at 4. I'm fine with either one. Dilly at 8, and we're set.
If for some reason the Spurs are absolutely in love with Castle and think there's any chance he's gone by 4, to them it will be worth trading up.
I don't see the appeal of Castle being so much higher than other players likely to be available at 4 to be worth giving up assets, but I'm not the one making the decisions here.
i'm not really sure who is supposed to take castle other than us...
I can absolutely see HOU taking him. He fits IME type big time and they have plenty of fire power on offense. They could absolutely use a “jrue” type on their team .
They already have all the wings they need and they're trying to develop Amen into a point guard.
Him and Castle are way too similar in terms of best case scenario. Unless they trade Amen, I don't think they're even considering Castle.
On the other hand, Sheppard would be a great fit to replace FVV.
They have a better one in Amen; Castle would be a weird fit there and if they took him I would expect it would be for a trade.
Yeah, I think Washington and Houston are both threats to take Castle. Doesn't totally make sense for Houston due to Amen, but they can figure that out later.
For Washington, I don't see how Risacher makes sense at all in terms of fit. Too many forwards yadda yadda. I can see them go for Clingan, but a defensive ace like Castle can improve an awful defensive team. Would Castle be happy watching Kuz and Poole chuck away? Probably not.
And then if Rox trade away their pick, say to Brooklyn, that's a Sean Marks foundational pick to me, is Castle.
I don't think the Spurs would trade up to 2, and definitely not for 4+8. I don't think there's a huge difference among the players, but then I watch Castle defense and then I'm like, 'Oh, yeah, right.' Like, this is exactly the guy the Spurs will want.
there's definitely some comparison to make between Castle and Sochan, not as players but as guys who supposdely can play different postions, with great defense and no shooting (spurs are suposed to fix)...Good at different things, not great at anything.
Still time to improve, but we had great expectations for Sochan and he almost regressed this year with little hope his shooting (and lack of size) will ever make him a starter on a contender. Spurs do love these guys but it could be time to focus on talent and filling the roster with guys who bring even just one potentially elite skill... defense, shooting, playmaking, rim protection...
If they potentially bring two, specially in this draft (let's say Risacher) that's the first pick to me, however you get him. For the second pick, assuming you keep 'em both, one potential elite skill would do it, like Dilly as a scoring 6th man. But you need to start adding talent to this team that badly lacks some, not another couple long shot guys spurs program will magically make all stars but who may never actually develop elite skills
I agree with this approach to the #4 pick.
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