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    I dont think Spurs care all that much about Primo anymore. Wemby has erased all of that bad taste IMO and Shannon being found not guilty, with a lot of support behind him would be viewed as a great thing and people would likely say how great it is that he ended up in an amazing spot like SA etc..
    The Spurs 100 percent care about Primo just like the Ravens still care about Ray Rice. People don't understand how big of a scar that was, let alone how much bigger it could've been had they not rushed to settle. Shannon was acquitted but that doesn't mean he isn't complicated from a PR perspective.

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    Rumor that Pels may trade their 21 pick for second round draft capital. They don't have SRPs until 2030. If true that's crazy. I'll have to check that out.

    There's a third pick opportunity right there. Take Furphy or your own personal favorite.
    Sounds good to me, take a Project big who probably won't slide to 2nd:

    Missi
    Or one of the others, like Ware or Holmes

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    The Spurs 100 percent care about Primo just like the Ravens still care about Ray Rice. People don't understand how big of a scar that was, let alone how much bigger it could've been had they not rushed to settle. Shannon was acquitted but that doesn't mean he isn't complicated from a PR perspective.
    Perhaps - but Ray Rice was far worse in terms of PR (video of it) and a much larger name. I dont think that’s a fair comparison tbh. But all Im saying is I dont think Primo matters with regards to taking on players like this that dont have any legal issues and that many actually sympathize with.

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    If we get another pick, I see it more for a trade or consolidation, not to pick up another player. Between five rostered picks from the past two years and at least two from this year and possibly 3-4 from next year, we should not attempt to keep this many young players. Trades for established young players, future draft picks, or consolidation for higher quality picks should be the priorities in my opinion.

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    What I wouldn’t hate would be to flip 3 SRPs to N.O. for 21, then flip 21 to another team for a protected pick 2028 or later. It gets us off some seconds without log jamming our development.

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    What I wouldn’t hate would be to flip 3 SRPs to N.O. for 21, then flip 21 to another team for a protected pick 2028 or later. It gets us off some seconds without log jamming our development.
    those second rounds will be sold for cash

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    those second rounds will be sold for cash
    The scenario we are discussing is that N.O. Supposedly Wants some seconds in exchange for #21. If the Spurs don’t do something like that then they will probably sell some SRPs. They have 14 SRPs, so swapping 3 of them still leaves 11 to sell or kick down the road for future SRPs.

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    If we get another pick, I see it more for a trade or consolidation, not to pick up another player. Between five rostered picks from the past two years and at least two from this year and possibly 3-4 from next year, we should not attempt to keep this many young players. Trades for established young players, future draft picks, or consolidation for higher quality picks should be the priorities in my opinion.
    They could also not cling onto guys like Wesley or Branham. If they think there are better players available in this draft they should pursue them.

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    https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-dra...kouts-tracker/



    I won't pretend I know much about these kids except for the two obvious ones, anything interesting in here?

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    They could also not cling onto guys like Wesley or Branham. If they think there are better players available in this draft they should pursue them.
    I didn't want to get too long winded but yes, you can cut them loose or try to trade them. But due to the way the rookie contracts get guaranteed, you may end up with dead money on the books. If you didn't pick up an option and they blow up, you hamstring your ability to resign them. And if you trade them, you may have to attach low end assets to get off of them. But if you're gonna pick up yet another player, you might as well put one of Braham or Wesley in the waste basket now. You can only properly develop so many players at one time.

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    And to clarify, my above comment goes for any rookie we pick up. Not just Blake and Malaki.

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    They could also not cling onto guys like Wesley or Branham. If they think there are better players available in this draft they should pursue them.
    Agree 1000%. There is MORE than enough room on this roster to clear out 7 guys and replace them if you land guys worthy of it.

    Cedi, Graham, Branham, Blake, Collins, Bassey, Mamu, Barlow….you can easily draft 3 people this year and them all replace the guys I mentioned if they earn it.

    In fact, this is my preference. It doesnt have to be all draft, can be 2-3 from draft, 2-3 FA/trades too.

    Point is, half the team is fully replaceable no problem and SA shouldn’t hesitate to just move on with all the picks they have and cap space etc…if there isn’t significant leaps/progress from the guys I mentioned, move on. This is the season to do it too. No expectations of a le, still in a rebuild and you can afford to do it this year and try to find stronger rotation players via this draft/fa/trade

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    I won't pretend I know much about these kids except for the two obvious ones, anything interesting in here?
    Jamal Shead is a great floor defender. Antonio Reeves is a good outside shooter.

    Mostly fringe second round types. What's interesting is that Risacher and Salaun pop up. Not surprising necessarily but the Spurs tend to hide their top pick workouts.

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    They could also not cling onto guys like Wesley or Branham. If they think there are better players available in this draft they should pursue them.
    And we should do that.Felt like half these players should be gone.None of them had any chemistry with wemby
    other then tre jones and mamu.Bunch of no talent iq players that should be replaced now rather then later

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    Are folks really still on this hill?
    not really a hill, but there's no reason to limit victor when he plays so atypical. we need to create new sets that fit his versatility.

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    Is there an significance to Green Room invites? Is it because these players have received promises? Or just because the NBA feels they'll be FRPs?

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    Is there an significance to Green Room invites? Is it because these players have received promises? Or just because the NBA feels they'll be FRPs?
    The latter mostly.

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    Still, Topic with an invite?

    Hmmm.

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    I didn't want to get too long winded but yes, you can cut them loose or try to trade them. But due to the way the rookie contracts get guaranteed, you may end up with dead money on the books. If you didn't pick up an option and they blow up, you hamstring your ability to resign them. And if you trade them, you may have to attach low end assets to get off of them. But if you're gonna pick up yet another player, you might as well put one of Braham or Wesley in the waste basket now. You can only properly develop so many players at one time.
    You can't keep holding onto players because you are worried they might randomly break out. I get we as fans have little vision into this, but the team shouldn't be so uncertain. Players are not dice. The Spurs aren't going to be to like, "Tyler Kolek is here at 35, and he seems perfect for the third PG spot that Blake's been unable to hold. But there's a 15-percent chance Wesley breaks out, and if we don't pick up his option, cut him or trade him, we miss out on 15 units of expected value." If the Spurs don't end up giving up on guys who have 10-year careers, that's the fault of their scouting department. They have so many first-round picks, and every selection they use is ideally on a player with talent and a future. They signed up for a world in which they let most of those guys walk to focus on the very best of them. Prospects have to earn developmental time, and one of the big reasons why development has stalled, I suspect, is because the team has been handing minutes to players who didn't do anything to deserve them for years.

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    Is there an significance to Green Room invites? Is it because these players have received promises? Or just because the NBA feels they'll be FRPs?
    Remember that because the draft is stupidly two nights this year, the league wants guys whom they/ESPN can hype up on the second night. So there will very, very likely be guys invited to the green room with the expectation they won't have their name called until Friday.

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    I'm curious, how do they decide these green room invites? Do individual teams give the NBA their respective big boards and the NBA just invites the most common names? Or do they just invite the highest ranked prospects on ESPN?

    Because in theory, I feel like it's supposed to be the former. But what actually happens in practice is the latter.

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    I'm curious, how do they decide these green room invites? Do individual teams give the NBA their respective big boards and the NBA just invites the most common names? Or do they just invite the highest ranked prospects on ESPN?

    Because in theory, I feel like it's supposed to be the former. But what actually happens in practice is the latter.
    I think they ask each team for a list of players they might select at each pick in the lottery, maybe 3, then they collate those lists.

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    Have there been any notable/embarrassing Green Room situations in the NBA? Like Aaron Rodgers in the NFL?

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