Donovan Clingan - 2024 NBA Draft Prospect

[ulosturedge]

I think Clingan's value is up there because even at worst you will find a role for the guy just based on his measurables. He seems pretty mobile to me. He has good basketball IQ from what I hear, and the floor space him and Wemby would eat up on defense seems like an intriguing scenario. In a draft year that seems like their could be alot of busts this would be one of the safer plays that you will get some value out of the situation no matter if he reached his potential or not. The fact that Castle could be a bust(shooting), Dillingham can be a bust(size), ect. And not to mention there are more guards to choose from then bigs at the top end of the draft. Someone is gonna take the value proposition as opposed to the high risk high reward option. I don't think he will be there at pick #8 and I don't really see any superstars in this draft for the most part, so I won't be mad however this plays out(unless they do some real off the wall lol).

[couchman]

I’d rather have Risacher or Sheppard, but unless something really weird happens at the top of the draft Clingan will be the obvious BPA at 4.
In a ty draft those are the only three players who can contribute immediately AND also represent upside.
Knecht and Carter can also contribute early but have much more limited potential for improvement.
The Spurs simply aren’t good enough to pass on BPA right now and we can’t afford to draft two more kids who are years away from helping Wendy.
I’d like to see how our defense works with Collin’s minutes taken by Clingan.
I also would like to see if the “Wemby can’t play with another big” theory is true when the bigs in question aren’t Collins being a disaster or some journeyman waiver wire nobody.

[Duncan2177]

I’d rather have Risacher or Sheppard, but unless something really weird happens at the top of the draft Clingan will be the obvious BPA at 4.
In a ty draft those are the only three players who can contribute immediately AND also represent upside.
Knecht and Carter can also contribute early but have much more limited potential for improvement.
The Spurs simply aren’t good enough to pass on BPA right now and we can’t afford to draft two more kids who are years away from helping Wendy.
I’d like to see how our defense works with Collin’s minutes taken by Clingan.
I also would like to see if the “Wemby can’t play with another big” theory is true when the bigs in question aren’t Collins being a disaster or some journeyman waiver wire nobody.

You just move Collins to PF backing up Sochan and Clingan to center backing up Wemby.

[NASpurs]

This is the perfect thread to say Collins.

I hate that ty dude so much I would draft Clingan at 4.

[LeBowen]

This is the perfect thread to say Collins.

I don't want any big in this draft, but if it would mean Collins is gone, I'd get over it.
Him being in the rotation is more detrimental to the team than Bryn starting.

[MultiTroll]

I'm all for the Spurs adding a big both to pair with Wemby and/or to sub in for him.

Don't wanna see Wemby get injured due to overuse, overtaxed with Pops current pets.

[mo7888]

You just move Collins to PF backing up Sochan and Clingan to center backing up Wemby.

I'd resign Mamu and move Collins. Mamu would fit pretty well next to Clingan in a 2nd unit.

[Mugen]

He shouldn't be available at 8, but if he is we absolutely should take him in order to get a higher value - and rarer to replicate - asset without having to sacrifice picking the lottery draftee that can most help our team (because we'd have already done that at #4).

Grabbing someone who could easily be top 3 at 8 because we uniquely have 2 lottery picks is like an *exact* scenario of how to maximise that specific advantage.
The only reason he'd be at 8 is because every other team 1-7 only gets 1 shot to improve their overall team with a top-end of class draftee.

If he was available at #8 then BWrong should be able to extract an asset or two from the Grizzlies at #9 like the Pacers/Wiz trade last year. If he isn't able to do that and actually drafts Clingan when they already have the future best C in the league then yeah he should be fired on the spot.

[BacktoBasics]

If we want a big why not just trade into the late 1st round and draft Edey or Ware rather than waste the 4th pick on a guy who isn't going to bring any major dynamics to the team. That's not to be dismissive of Clingan but it seems that could largely be addressed later in the draft.

[stnick2261]

If Clingan is there at 8 and Memphis wants him at 9...I'd try to trade him for a 2025 swap.

From our perspective, everyone we actually wanted at 8 would still be there at 9.

From Memphis' perspective, we had the worse record this year so there is a good chance the swap means nothing next year.

[R. DeMurre]

Not too interested in Clingan for the Spurs, but I still don't buy the concept that Wemby can't be paired with another big based on the Collins experience. I still think a future experiment to pair him with length and form one of the longest front courts ever can still be in play if an Evan Mobley/Jonathan Isaac/Robert Williams/Holmgren type of guy becomes available. Sign Bitadze to a reasonable contract and you have your back up defensive center to hold down the minutes when Victor's resting.

[poopbox]

Is Clingan projected as a significant offensive upgrade to Walker Kessler? Their college stats are shockingly comparable, with Kessler having superior rebounding and block stats.

If Walker Kessler was in this draft and his current NBA outcome was 100% known - I still wouldn't take him with 4 or 8.

Exactly how I feel about him. On the one hand he could be phenomenal defensively playing next to Victor some and mostly playing backup center when Victor is out. On the other hand should you be drafting Walker Kessler clone in the top 10?

Probably not. The fit is going to be exceptionally awkward to start. Clingan also opens up the door to point Sochan again if Victor has to go back to playing the 4

[Anonymous Cowherd]

If he was available at #8 then BWrong should be able to extract an asset or two from the Grizzlies at #9 like the Pacers/Wiz trade last year. If he isn't able to do that and actually drafts Clingan when they already have the future best C in the league then yeah he should be fired on the spot.

To state what should be obvious, when negotiating this sort of trade you have to be prepared to walk away from a bad offer.

And if we walked away from a bad offer but then didn't pull the trigger and draft him, therefore letting Memphis have him for nothing, that would be having our pants pulled down.

Any deal with Memphis where we get something good from them would entirely rely on our believable BATNO being, drafting Clingan.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Not too interested in Clingan for the Spurs, but I still don't buy the concept that Wemby can't be paired with another big based on the Collins experience. I still think a future experiment to pair him with length and form one of the longest front courts ever can still be in play if an Evan Mobley/Jonathan Isaac/Robert Williams/Holmgren type of guy becomes available. Sign Bitadze to a reasonable contract and you have your back up defensive center to hold down the minutes when Victor's resting.

Agree completely. The problem was more the lack of a point guard than pairing with a big.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Clingan is way overrated. I’d take Edey over him all day long. But neither in the top 10. Clingan will have a solid NBA career, but is massively benefiting from playing for UConn. If you switched Edey and Clingan on UConn their point differential goes up by 5 points or more. UConn has 4 players that may get drafted this year. I bet most people have a problem even remembering the names of the other Perdue starters. Edey carried them all year and through the tournament.

[Mugen]

To state what should be obvious, when negotiating this sort of trade you have to be prepared to walk away from a bad offer.

And if we walked away from a bad offer but then didn't pull the trigger and draft him, therefore letting Memphis have him for nothing, that would be having our pants pulled down.

Any deal with Memphis where we get something good from them would entirely rely on our believable BATNO being, drafting Clingan.

Yeah we heard the same excuse when BWrong reached for Primo, "Takes two to tango."

The Bulls have also been rumored to have been interested in Clingan as well. If BWrong isn't able to get any additional value if Clingan falls to him at #8 and knowingly drafts a backup C in the top 10 then yeah he should be fired on the spot.

[Mugen]

The Wolves had a nice run this year with their big lineup but that experiment will ultimately fail tbh. It's much more difficult to build a championship roster with two bigs in your crunch time lineup in today's NBA.

Wemby will need a competent backup for sure, but that need can be filled without wasting a top 10 pick tbh.

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For The Bigots And The Uninitiated (spurstalk.com)

[LeBowen]

The Wolves had a nice run this year with their big lineup but that experiment will ultimately fail tbh. It's much more difficult to build a championship roster with two bigs in your crunch time lineup in today's NBA.

Wemby will need a competent backup for sure, but that need can be filled without wasting a top 10 pick tbh.

Idk if it's a two bigs lineup since KAT is their best shooter.
KAT and Wemby would definitely work. That's why I want Markkanen. If it's to work, one of the bigs has to be an elite shooter, even for guard standards.
And the other one also has to be capable. Which Gobert obviously wasn't.

If we're talking about just finding a backup for Wemby, I wouldn't worry about it too much until we're actually a serious playoff team.
Until then, either get a young prospect or one of those veteran minimum guys.

[Joseph Kony]

If the Spurs dump Collins ty ass i wouldn't hate the pick tbh. Spurs go to complete everytime Wemby steps off the court so having a legit backup that can anchor the D for those periods would be a solid get. really tired of watching Collins repeatedly get abused and posterized by any player with a pulse

[Mugen]

Idk if it's a two bigs lineup since KAT is their best shooter.
KAT and Wemby would definitely work. That's why I want Markkanen. If it's to work, one of the bigs has to be an elite shooter, even for guard standards.
And the other one also has to be capable. Which Gobert obviously wasn't.

If we're talking about just finding a backup for Wemby, I wouldn't worry about it too much until we're actually a serious playoff team.
Until then, either get a young prospect or one of those veteran minimum guys.

I don't really consider Markkanen a "big." I classify "bigs" in today's NBA as guys whose best position would be a C.

KAT sucks at rim protection but he's not mobile enough to be a 4, he's a C tbh. Gobert is a C. Wemby is a C. And Clingan is a C.

[LeBowen]

I don't really consider Markkanen a "big." I classify "bigs" in today's NBA as guys whose best position would be a C.

KAT sucks at rim protection but he's not mobile enough to be a 4, he's a C tbh. Gobert is a C. Wemby is a C. And Clingan is a C.

Fair point about Markkanen.
Chet and Wemby combo would definitely work and it would be unfair. Is Chet a C? If not now, he'll surely be one a few years down the road.

Anyhow other than Markkanen, my take is that getting another 7 footer to pair with Wemby would just take away from his advantages and shouldn't even be considered.

[jjspur]

I'm going out on a limb here, but even if we don't draft Clingan (which we probably won't) , some other team will. That team will utilize him in ways we can't or won't. Clingan was an important part of a team concept. He wasn't the best player, but he was a big part of 2 championship teams. He knows how to play within a system, and he does it well. He won't start right away, but you know he will eventually.

That being said, Clingan may end up having a better career than Sarr, and certainly better than Poeltl or Collins.

[Mr. Body]

I would probably take Clingan over Sarr in a vacuum. People ignore how Sarr only played 18.0 minutes a game and wasn't great at important parts of his role, most particularly rebounding and his upside is theoretical, like his shooting. There's a push to claim Clingan can stretch the floor, but I don't think that will ever happen. Clingan probably has a higher floor to me and the percentage chance that Sarr hits all his highest ceiling dice rolls isn't great. Not that I dislike Sarr. I'd certainly give him a shot on the Spurs. Just that as a top pick he's problematic. Clingan feasted on rolls and actions that got him in the dunker spot. I can see a huge appeal as a target for Trae Young while being more of an anchor on the defensive end than Sarr can be.

[NASpurs]

If the Spurs dump Collins ty ass i wouldn't hate the pick tbh. Spurs go to complete everytime Wemby steps off the court so having a legit backup that can anchor the D for those periods would be a solid get. really tired of watching Collins repeatedly get abused and posterized by any player with a pulse

How many games were lost last year when this loser came in?