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    Spurs would be crazy to deal those ATL picks back to them.

    They have them where they want them.

    Barely making the playoffs.
    Yea theres no way they are this desperate for rissacher.

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    Hawks hype machine fellas. I do wonder if they get desperate enough, if ATL starts to drop their price but even then I don’t know that it’s worth it at all for the Spurs. Just watch, one of historic dumb dumbs like DET, WAS, or CHA will take the bait themselves.

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    Is this the caucasian Eric Zhang?

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    Only way I’d entertain moving up to 1 is offering the Hawks 4 + Keldon + 35 + multiple seconds.

    No way I’m doing 4+ 8.

    Don’t want DJ and not that high on Trae at least not for what the Hawks would want

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    I’ve been wondering if ATL would consider trading out of 1 if they recovered the 26swap and CHA FRP, along with 8 and 35?

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    I’ve been wondering if ATL would consider trading out of 1 if they recovered the 26swap and CHA FRP, along with 8 and 35?
    Doubt it. It's the first time atlanta has won the first overall pick during the lottery years. I expect them to draft Sarr.

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    Yea theres no way they are this desperate for rissacher.
    Risacher isn't even worth one Unprotected Atlanta pick. Spurs will get a better SF in next year's draft than Risacher. Just wait and see, keep that Atlanta pick and fill that SF next year with a better player.

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    Doubt it. It's the first time atlanta has won the first overall pick during the lottery years. I expect them to draft Sarr.
    Sarr makes the most sense there. I feel they are bluffing on ZR some and trying to bait the Spurs.

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    I still can’t see the Hawks taking Risacher at 1. I think the pick will be Sarr.

    I can see Risacher going 2nd but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Wiz went Clingan.

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    I would not be surprised if he dropped to Detroit and that's nothing against him. It's a false narrative that he's obviously top two talent in this draft when that's clearly not true. Top five for him would be great.

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    Combine data for international prospects is irrelevant because domestic talent practices for it and obviously rates beter.
    And even if it was relevant, it just shows basketball talent is way more important.

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    Combine data for international prospects is irrelevant because domestic talent practices for it and obviously rates beter.
    And even if it was relevant, it just shows basketball talent is way more important.
    I think that is maybe true if you’re Luka level of talented on offense but if you’re someone who is just ok shooter and not really a self creator or high level creator for others I dont know man..

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    I personally don't care much about Rizz's athleticism or short wingspan. I don't like him for lots of other reasons.

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    I think that is maybe true if you’re Luka level of talented on offense but if you’re someone who is just ok shooter and not really a self creator or high level creator for others I dont know man..
    With team workouts being a thing, I don't see the point of combine.
    I'm sure every player Spurs are interested in will have a workout to determine his actual capabilities.
    Except injured Topic.

    That data is way more valuable and valid than combine stats which are fairly easy to cheat.

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    bSPARQ??? WTF is this?

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    I found the European vertical leap numbers to be shockingly low across the board.
    It made me wonder why:
    Do they test differently?
    Do players not prepare for it?
    Is leaping simply less important in European basketball?
    Lots of questions…

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    I found the European vertical leap numbers to be shockingly low across the board.
    It made me wonder why:
    Do they test differently?
    Do players not prepare for it?
    Is leaping simply less important in European basketball?
    Lots of questions…
    Or the truth could be that the numbers are what they are and people need to stop looking too hard into it tbh

    We live in a world where we believe what we want to believe and nothing or noone can be trusted anymore. Quite sad

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    With team workouts being a thing, I don't see the point of combine.
    I'm sure every player Spurs are interested in will have a workout to determine his actual capabilities.
    Except injured Topic.

    That data is way more valuable and valid than combine stats which are fairly easy to cheat.
    Sure - it’s just one data point. It would have been stupid to take Lukas testing and apply too much thought to it with everything you saw him do in real games against great compe ion.

    Just saying that Risacher isn’t a Luka level prospect and theres a lot more questions to his game and a lack of athleticism there raises more of an eyebrow to a degree but its not some death blow especially in this draft

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    I found the European vertical leap numbers to be shockingly low across the board.
    It made me wonder why:
    Do they test differently?
    Do players not prepare for it?
    Is leaping simply less important in European basketball?
    Lots of questions…
    People outside the US definitely give less importance to athletic traits, in all of sports, not just basketball. These atheltic and physical measurements aren't a thing at all in the rest of the World (unless it is a field and track sport). If it is a skilled based sport, they only care about wether you can play it or not, and there's no need for measurements there, you can just see it on the court/field/pitch, tbh.

    Imagine a soccer team not signing Messi because of his measurements.

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    Is there precedent for a prospect grading poorly on pre-draft analytics models but still turning into a quality NBA player? If so, how much?

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    Spurs better not over value the French players because they are French.

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    Spurs better not over value the French players because they are French.
    That's what I'm afraid of.

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    bSPARQ??? WTF is this?
    i know from being an NFL draft junkie that SPARQ basically is your relative athleticism to other players at your position, accounting for things like size. ie two different defensive ends who have identical athletic testing but one guy is an 2 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier would therefore have the higher SPARQ score. i know for the NFL they also apply it historically, ie if you are a 95th percentile SPARQ score at your position, that is against historical measurements, not just your contemporaries

    i can only assume they are doing the same here

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