Salaun has the same standing reach as Sarr. I think Salaun is what people envision what Sarr would be on the perimeter with his defense not realizing that Sarr’s not really suited to be defending perimeter full-time, which Salaun will have the lateral agility for. IMO, I think Salaun will provide true PF/C versatility, something the Spurs have been searching for for some time. His standing reach will help defend the paint without having to bite on shot attempts and he will stay on the ground with perimeter players. Sochan’s not quite as long, Barlow’s not quite as quick, Mamu’s deficient in both length and quickness. This is the versatile big the Spurs need on defense tbh.
All im getting is hes a hard worker and hustles and gives it his all.His stats dont show that tho.For a big guy where are the rebounds and blocks?
Alot of players are gym rats and work hard.But if they got no talent or iq,Doesnt really mean nothing to help this team,Especially if there gonna need
3 to 4 years.
The “a lot of players are gym rats” comment is exactly what I mean when I say that fans put low stock into work ethic tbh. We think we know how much work players put in, but that’s BS. I don’t believe Salaun has absolutely no talent, I think that’s an extreme comment to say, and something that’s not really reflective of the current facts.
His stats show otherwise.Hes not even close to averaging 1 block a game.For a defensive big guy at 6,10 with 7,3 wingspan.He should have
more rebounds as well just looking at his length and body.That just tell me he has no iq with his timing or no talent.
Bro I don’t think this is gonna go anywhere if you think basketball and development are all about counting stats.
Salaun will be the Spurs pick at 8.
I'm not buying it tbh.
Bro the stats gotta mean something to you.Stats show hes bad at finishing at the rim,Bad at shooting,Bad at blocking
shots and protecting the rim.Bad at rebounding.The stats are flat out bad everywhere.Why would we draft him 8.
Only thing is a plus is his age and size.But with that logic we should try taking chomche at 8 as well.Young and good body size.
But we wont cause we know hes a project,But its the same with salum as well
The rationalization that's going on is astounding. If you want someone to keep Wemby company, just take his 2 best friends and put them on the payroll at 3x what they make right now. Using a top 10 pick for that is an admision of incompetence beyond belief. I'm not a fan of using 4+8 to move up, but if this is the use they have planned for no. 8, just send them to Washington for 2+26 and pick Risacher + Tyler Smith... maybe add a couple 2nd rounders and have them include Kispert as well, or alternatively have them take Collins. Give Wemby a French pal who can actually play and is a good fit, alongside another serviceable shooter who'll make his life easier on the court. Draft Dadiet or Ajinca, or better yet, both. Much more effective way to keep him happy.
anyone who says "yes please, moar please" to this bust as a top-10 pick is borderline clinical
He's EIGHTEEN years old discovering the pro world. Context matters.
You can't look at his stats the same way than you'd do for an established playe or a college player playing vs guys of his age and systems he's be trained for as a center piece of the team.
And I'm with Dejounte on the importance of work ethic and character. It's absurdly underrated and one of the main factor in a player's career.
It's rare to see that kind of determination and work ethic in such a young man and he's already shown the effect the last few years. Why would that stop and imagine where he can end up with his characteristics and the Spurs environement/Pop's coaching?
I can see the front office telling Wemby "We aren't going to draft Salaun at 4, that's a really really important pick, but if he's available at 8 we might take a chance on a very young, somewhat inexperienced prospect who still has an awful lot to learn. This is the NBA, not Europe. Players that are too old, too slow or just don't have enough talent to make the NBA go to Europe. Players here are bigger, faster, and lots more experienced - even on bad teams. Understand that we need real talent, not potential talent, and we are taking a big big risk here. There are other players just as good if not possibly better. at pick 8. If selected, we will probably keep your pal in Austin for a year or two, to learn our system, but if he doesn't show real progress like a #8 pick should, we'll let him go like a bad habit. We sure hope he pans out buddy."
In this weak draft, the above could be applied to any number of players, so like I've said before, Spurs, do your homework.
Can't ignore the Wemby agent and the French connection, but I'm having trouble seeing a scenario where the player at Pick #4 is "sure bet" enough to get an upside swing of this magnitude at #8.
I wonder if the Spurs consider trading into the late lottery or mid-first for a third pick if Salaun slides. While that would make the roster tight, it feels like a Spurs "zig when everyone zags" type move with respect to this draft. Also wonder if Salaun would be open to stashing in France for a season to alleviate the roster crunch concern.
he definitely wasn't a show-er
guy with PF/C versatility who makes good defensive reads with the same standing reach as Sarr and will help defend the paint has blocked 8 shots in 750 minutes of play this year
Blocks are not an indicator of how well they’re defending as a big in this day and age. I shared a list before that the list of players leading the league in blocks are mostly strict Centers, not PF/C’s.
Even for centers it can be deceiving.
Hint: Hassan Whiteside. Atrocious defender.
i didnt say he needs to be a league leader, but 8 blocks in 750 minutes is somewhere between malaki branham and jeremy sochan
he has the physical tools to do more than that, but he doesnt, which means he isnt somebody who positions well, times well, rotates well, etc. he cant be all those things and have zero production to show for it. and thats fine, the guy is very young. but gotta stop pretending he's already good at the mental side of the game when he isnt close
Trae Young had 11 blocks in 54 games this year.
-somebody who doesnt position well
-doesnt time well
-doesnt rotate well
-etc
…all can’t be boiled to a single number. That’s overly simplified and preposterous tbh
maybe the emphasis on league leader is misplaced, what I meant was I sorted the blocks column by most to least and majority of the top half of the list are centers. That’s the takeaway, not that Salaun has to lead the league in blocks.
i didnt say all those things can be boiled down to a single number. tiago did those things well and was never a high end shotblocker. but 8 is such a low, outlier figure... if he's as good as all those things as you claim he is, with his frame/wingspan, he'd have more of them
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Based on Timvp’s latest post…If we go Williams/Salaun in this draft I might throw up
Not when Portland drafts him first
That'd prob be worst case scenario tbhBased on Timvp’s latest post…If we go Williams/Salaun in this draft I might throw up
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