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    I will preface this with I dont want it and would not do it. But IF you could get Lavine from CHI for Keldon+Collins would you do it?

    Lavine has 3 years left on his deal, Collins has 2 and Keldon 3. So effectively you’d be paying what you pay for Keldon/Collins anyways + 6/8M for the first two years to Lavine. The only year where the money is materially different is year 3 where Lavine has a 49M player option where Keldon is making only 17.5M and Collins would be off the books already.
    Damn and you said I was devaluing Keldon by wanting to use him to move up and select Castle and propose this? Lavine is a genuinely negative asset.

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    OG is arguably the best 3-D wing in the league right now, ridiculous defensively, but he's got some serious injury concerns. It's always something.
    He won't sign for anything less than 160/4.

    Assuming we draft two players and waive Graham, we'll be around 21M under the cap.
    Get rid Collins, don't pick up Wesley's option and we're at 40M.

    Won't happen though.
    Wesley’s option for year 3 had to be picked up by October of last year, and it was.

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    i doubt the knicks are nickle and diming him, they almost certainly made a substantial offer. they know that they sent assets to get him and for sure want to keep him. so this might just be him saying he wants max and nothing less.

    OG is the type of player that is a good fit for basically any team. checks all the "role player" boxes very well. plays good defense? check. good size/athleticism and defensive versatility? check. strong outside shooting? check. able to beat closeouts and make plays in transition? check. low maintenance character? check.

    ultimately the market will decide how much guys get paid, and historically teams had been ok giving all kinds of players max contracts who didnt seem like max players, and the narrative has been that we'll see teams tighten the belts under the new CBA. anunoby is a of a test subject for that theory
    Love Anunoby but he's made of glass. Probably still will get a max offer from Philly though when PG13 says no.

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    Zach Lavine is what Ben Simmons was a couple years ago. Incredibly bad contract attached to a bad player the team would love to rid themselves of. Funny enough, trading the two of them with Chicago adding something to make the trade happen may be the way to go.

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    If we went with something like Castle/Dilly in the draft, I wonder about an Obi Topping signing. I see him as a very similar achetype as Sochan, but with a much more developed offensive skill set (and 40% from 3 last year) while maybe not as strong on defense or rebounding (though Toppin's defensive metrics look better on paper). They may be too similar, and if the Spurs believe in Sochan it may not make a lot of sense to pair him with a similar player who might be better and logically supplant him in the starting role. But I'm intrigued by Toppin. If Sochan were required in a trade (say for Markkanen), I would look at Toppin as a replacement.
    If the Spurs are inclined to trade down this draft, I think I'd rather take DaRon Holmes II who looks like he could become more of what they would get a guy like Toppin for. He's old for the draft but I see a poor man's Naz Reid when I squint hard enough.

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    as always the money is part of the equation, but ive mentioned D'Lo as somebody i'd have interest in, if we cant make Malik Monk happen

    lakers ran a lot of inverted PnR with lebron and russell and it worked well. could see a lot of that w/ wemby
    He's an on court fit with his shooting and court vision/passing. He's not been the knucklehead he once was either off the court. You can't trust him in big moments when it comes to decision making, but he's a nice player that can be better packaged with picks next summer if we go big game hunting.

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    Love OG as a fit here, but definitely wouldn't not give him $40MM/yr.

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    tyus jones looking for a deal of 15 mill or more a year.Should we go after him?

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    tyus jones looking for a deal of 15 mill or more a year.Should we go after him?
    I would in a heartbeat IF we don’t get our PG of the future in the draft. Tyus is a slight upgrade over Tre since he’s a better shooter, but besides that they’re the same player imo. Worst case scenario, we’d always have a “T. Jones” running the offense all the time. Might not be ideal, but there’s worse things imo.

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    tyus jones looking for a deal of 15 mill or more a year.Should we go after him?
    No thanks.

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    tyus jones looking for a deal of 15 mill or more a year.Should we go after him?
    Too soon to tell, depends on whether they get a PG through the draft or via trade. Say they draft Castle and Dillingham or trade for Garland, then absolutely not. But if they draft Risacher and Salaun, I wouldn't be opposed to signing Tyus at around MLE money with the understanding that Tre is probably one of the easiest pieces to fit into any trade, in that he's a positive asset that is fairly easy to replace. But I don't see a Jones brothers partnership as the long term answer at PG.
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    Wanting to get Tyus Jones when we already have Tre Jones has to be one of the wildest most baffling ideas I've ever seen in my life.

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    No on Tyus Jones. No on Trae Young. No on OG Anunoby. No on Chris Paul.

    Hope DWhite doesn't receive an acceptable extension or contract offer from the Celtics, and bets on himself as an UFA, come summer 2025. If so, then back up the Brinks and there's your veteran championship-winning point guard.

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    Tyus Jones while having his brother on an expiring makes no sense.

    + Doesn't move the needle really

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    Too soon to tell, depends on whether they get a PG through the draft or via trade. Say they draft Castle and Dillingham or trade for Garland, then absolutely not. But if they draft Risacher and Salaun, I wouldn't be opposed to signing Tyus at around MLE money with the understanding that Tre is probably one of the easiest pieces to fit into any trade, in that he's a positive asset that is fairly easy to replace. But I don't see a Jones brothers partnership as the long term answer at PG.
    In the highly likely event they stay put at 4 and 8, they're almost certainly drafting a guard. It's just a question of whether it's a big one (Castle), a small one (Sheppard) or a medium one (Carter).

    If, as expected, it's Castle, then pursuing a small guard might still happen.

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    Guys

    can we get Mario Hezonza?

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    can we get Mario Hezonza?
    We'll take the horse.

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    Pistons Fire Monty Williams. A week before the draft interesting timing. Franchise seems to be in complete turmoil.

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    10 pages into the off-season thread and we have our first off-season news!

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    10 pages into the off-season thread and we have our first off-season news!
    And that's only because of the new rule that lets teams negotiate with their own players immediately after the Finals end. In past years the Siakam agreement couldn't have happened until July 1.

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    And that's only because of the new rule that lets teams negotiate with their own players immediately after the Finals end. In past years the Siakam agreement couldn't have happened until July 1.
    Honestly I like this new setup. Clears the table of the resignings before the draft so that there is a more accurate picture of the FA class. I'm sure teams all know who are really FA and who are just FA in name only who are getting resigned, but this makes it a little easier for fans (and avoids things like threads contemplating whether Maxey is worth throwing an offer sheet at).

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    Pistons Fire Monty Williams. A week before the draft interesting timing. Franchise seems to be in complete turmoil.
    This is really interesting to me. For nothing else, it signals that nothing is sacred for the new leadership. There's been a long-running assumption that DET wouldn't be interested in our guard targets at 5 (to which a few folks like Mr. Body have correctly suggested may not be the case). Obviously Trajan Langdon does not feel at all beholden to Troy Weaver's building blocks. If they're willing to swallow $65MM due to Monte, then I don't think its safe to assume anyone on that team is untouchable, including Cade.

    One note: at the start of last season Ivey seemed to really be in Monte's doghouse. By the end of the season, Ivey was starting and playing heavy minutes, but it wasn't clear that Ivey was someone Monte really cared for. Ivey may either get shipped off by the new regime, or they may view him as a key piece who has been mismanaged to date. I think that will be an important pivot piece for Detroit. I'd still be very interested him for the Spurs in the 6th man scorer role if he were available.

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