2024 NBA Draft Thread

[Vienna]

I really don‘t believe Sheppard goes that high. His shooting number look fantastic, but he didn‘t shoot much off the dribble, neither he shot off screens. He got his open looks from Dillingham and yes, he made them, but you don‘t draft him for that at 3 or 4. maybe Detroit thinks he fits next to Cade, but even this I don‘t count on. Spurs at 8, if they picked Castle at 4, I think there is a good chance he will be there.

[The Truth #6]

I see Sheppard dropping. Teams typically prioritize height in the top few picks. Teams will have to trust analytics over eyeballs, perceived upside, and fail sons interjecting inappropriately. Just a gut feeling.

Edit: I was typing when Vienna was typing something similar.

[SpursFan86]

Looked at odds just for s and giggles…for what it’s worth (probably not a ton):

1st: Risacher favored at -110, Sarr second at +110, Clingan third at +400
2nd: Risacher +100, Sarr +110, Clingan +500
3rd: Sheppard +150, Clingan +300, Castle/Sarr +700

4th: Castle +300, Sheppard +400, Buzelis +450
8th: Salaun/Topic +550, Dillingham/Holland +700

[scott]

Clingan to Charlotte seems unlikely, but if it happened I'd want the Spurs to make an offer for Mark Williams. He's locked into a very reasonable contract for the next two years and could be a great piece either as a player or as future trade bait.

If Charlotte takes Clingan, my understanding is that it will be because Mark Williams is broken.

[DAF86]

Malaki and Blake gotta be crossing their fingers it’s not Sheppard or Castle at #4. I think Topic, Dilly, Carter at #8 probably not affect them as much and they spend more time in Austin to develop.

No way Carter spends time in Austin. He's the oldest player of the bunch by a lot, and probably the more plug and play too.

In reality, none of those players project to spend much (if any time) on the G-league.

[TD 21]

So called Hawks insiders claim that Sarr has been focused on being steered to the Wizards all along (hence his not working out with the Hawks), as he prefers a lower pressure situation and that the Hawks will decide between Risacher and Clingan, with the latter being more likely.

I'd have to see it to believe it. But in the highly unlikely event Risacher gets to 4, I would think he'd be the one player they'd select ahead of Castle, in part because they'd still have Carter in their back pocket at 8.

They also claim Murray is more likely to be traded than Young (combination of market being "poor" and his being "on board with the plan").

[Mr. Body]

So called Hawks insiders claim that Sarr has been focused on being steered to the Wizards all along (hence his not working out with the Hawks), as he prefers a lower pressure situation and that the Hawks will decide between Risacher and Clingan, with the latter being more likely.

I'd have to see it to believe it, but in the highly unlikely event Risacher gets to 4, I would think he'd be the one player they'd select ahead of Castle, in part because they'd still have Carter in their back pocket at 8.

Trae Young is so disliked even players not in league don't want to play with him.

Spurs taking Risacher over Castle may be one of those considerable mistakes that shows repercussions down the line.

[scott]

People out here knocking Buzelis's "at ude" for some imagined reasons, meanwhile Sarr is reportedly ducking the Hawks so he can go to a "lower pressure situation"? Sounds like a real winner (if true).

[Mr. Body]

Atlanta's future may be worse than the Wizards.

Sarr gets to play with fellow Oui-zard Coulibaly. Only reason anyone wants to live in Atlanta is the strip clubs, and the French are too upstanding for that.

[CGD]

So called Hawks insiders claim that Sarr has been focused on being steered to the Wizards all along (hence his not working out with the Hawks), as he prefers a lower pressure situation and that the Hawks will decide between Risacher and Clingan, with the latter being more likely.

I'd have to see it to believe it. But in the highly unlikely event Risacher gets to 4, I would think he'd be the one player they'd select ahead of Castle, in part because they'd still have Carter in their back pocket at 8.

They also claim Murray is more likely to be traded than Young.

This makes a lot of sense. At 8, it feels like Carter is the Plan B to Castle should they prioritize a wing at 4. I do wonder if Matas is in play at 4 over Castle (I hope not tho).

[mo7888]

I think we should watch Detroit pretty closely. The firing of Williams today signifies a sort of sea shift into the Langdon time frame. I wouldn't be surprised if Cade gets moved next week. It could shake things up.

[Mr. Body]

Why would they move Cade though?

[scott]

Atlanta is a nice city - definitely more attractive than a lot of NBA markets. I don't view ATL's future as that grim, but maybe Sarr does. But ATL is a bubble team with no incentive to tank, so they will feel pressure to make the playoffs this year (realistic or not), and I read this as Sarr doesn't want that kind of pressure his rookie year... which is some weak ass if that is the case.

[ace3g]

HoopsHype updated their Draft Workout Section for the Spurs:

Ja'Kobe Walter

Tyler Kolek

Pacome Dadiet

Tyrese Samuel

[DAF86]

Why would they move Cade though?

Yeah, it makes no sense. I would jump at that opportunity on a second, though. Give them 4, 8, Keldon and whatever else they want.

[baseline bum]

I really don‘t believe Sheppard goes that high. His shooting number look fantastic, but he didn‘t shoot much off the dribble, neither he shot off screens. He got his open looks from Dillingham and yes, he made them, but you don‘t draft him for that at 3 or 4. maybe Detroit thinks he fits next to Cade, but even this I don‘t count on. Spurs at 8, if they picked Castle at 4, I think there is a good chance he will be there.

I mean there isn't a single prospect other than possibly Sarr that I'd happy to draft with a #4 pick in a normal draft. Castle seems like he'd go around 7 or 8 in a normal draft like say a Coby White, same for Sheppard, Risacher maybe 6 or 7 like Harrison Barnes. Looking at the weakness of this class I think Sheppard is probably a top 4 player in it; everybody in this draft has some major holes in his game so hard to say can't draft this flawed player at 4 since everyone else you could pick there is hugely flawed too.

[spurraider21]

Yeah unfortunately I think the only way Sheppard makes it to 4 is if Houston trades out of the pick. Guess there’s a chance they’d go with Risacher over Sheppard assuming Clingan/Sarr go 1 and 2…but seems unlikely.

if the top 2 picks wind up being clingan/sarr and we guarantee that one of risacher/sheppard will fall to us at 4, thats basically the best scenario we could ask for. or if hawks go with sarr/clingan and the wizards love buzelis as much as some people think

[baseline bum]

Yeah, it makes no sense. I would jump at that opportunity on a second, though. Give them 4, 8, Keldon and whatever else they want.

Seems like a lot to give up for a guy who probably tops out at quality starter and is about to cost a lot of money in a year. Made a nice jump this year though; previous two he looked like a bust.

[mo7888]

Why would they move Cade though?

For the same reason they fired Williams. Simply resetting under different management.

[baseline bum]

if the top 2 picks wind up being clingan/sarr and we guarantee that one of risacher/sheppard will fall to us at 4, thats basically the best scenario we could ask for. or if hawks go with sarr/clingan and the wizards love buzelis as much as some people think

God I'm going to be pissed if the Spurs don't come away with Risacher, Castle, or Sheppard at 4 (barring trade).

[DAF86]

Seems like a lot to give up for a guy who probably tops out at quality starter and is about to cost a lot of money in a year. Made a nice jump this year though; previous two he looked like a bust.

I see him as a future all-star, tbh.

[baseline bum]

So called Hawks insiders claim that Sarr has been focused on being steered to the Wizards all along (hence his not working out with the Hawks), as he prefers a lower pressure situation and that the Hawks will decide between Risacher and Clingan, with the latter being more likely.

I'd have to see it to believe it. But in the highly unlikely event Risacher gets to 4, I would think he'd be the one player they'd select ahead of Castle, in part because they'd still have Carter in their back pocket at 8.

They also claim Murray is more likely to be traded than Young (combination of market being "poor" and his being "on board with the plan").

Damn no wonder he looked pissed when Atlanta won the lottery.

[DAF86]

if the top 2 picks wind up being clingan/sarr and we guarantee that one of risacher/sheppard will fall to us at 4, thats basically the best scenario we could ask for. or if hawks go with sarr/clingan and the wizards love buzelis as much as some people think

Dream scenario: Sarr, Clingan and Buzelis go 1, 2 and 3. Spurs select Risacher with 4 and one of Sheppard/Castle falls to 8.

[baseline bum]

I see him as a future all-star, tbh.

Maybe a Jamal Magloire or a Brandon Ingram that makes it once or twice.

[spurraider21]

I see him as a future all-star, tbh.

thought it was bertans but risacher was the chosen one after all!