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I would give up all 3 ATL picks for Cade pretty easily
Cade >>>>>>>> Ivey
On that same awful team you are talking about, the coach thought Ivey wasn't good enough to start untill management asked him to.
Ivey will be a bench player for years to come, in the best of cases. Cade is a 23 ppg scorer at 22 years of age. It isn't even close.
I would give up all 3 ATL picks for Cade pretty easily
that's too much of a premium to pay imho
I think they had Dillingham in today for his workout.
Last edited by Mr. Peabody; 06-20-2024 at 02:49 AM.
Yup, like that "epic" workout with Wesley and Branham 2 years ago...
I did consider the pool in this years draft when I wrote that Sheppard isn't a top 4 pick for me. it's the upside question, that will be asked in this draft as much, as in any other draft. I think that teams will go for upside rather than the sure bet on an allegedly role player. this includes the Spurs IMO. Castle, Cody, Buzelis, Holland, Topic just offer more theoretically upside. so I guess they go upside at 4.
Sheppard hit tons of shots, but teams will look at his shot diet and compare it to other prospects. for example, McCain took (and hit) much more shots off the dribble. if teams see Sheppard as a mainly C&S player, they don't pick him that high.
You'd get him for that..
The Spurs wouldn't.
What kind of player do they expect to get with mid-lottery picks, then?
Cade hasn't even turned 23 yet.
He's a 6'6 guard, I'd even say a point guard at this stage. Not a traditional one, but more than good enough for a team that doesn't want a heliocentric playmaker.
If you looked at any of his press conferences, kid has an amazing mentality. He was genuinely distraught during their losing streak and gave his all every game to break it.
Averaged 23/4/7.5 on 45/35/87 with that awful roster around him and non-existant coaching.
His defense isn't anything special, but with proper development he can surely be a solid team defender.
I'd take him over any other point guard target. DJ, Trae, Garland or whoever else is out there.
Idk what kind of point guard are you hoping to draft?
In that other topic I voted for Castle as my favorite prospect, but Cade was a clearly better prospect and Castle will have a really long way to come even close to Cade.
With that being said, there's no chance Pistons trade their only good player.
Spurs are set to build through the draft. I don't think they would trade those picks for any one player in the league.
Yeah, I'm sure we'll actually pick eight rookies in the next three drafts.
More likely than the Spurs making a block buster trade.
I can see the Spurs making a blockbuster trade, but not at this point.
endlessly stockpiling picks just doesn't make much sense.
yeah, I get it that many teams overpayed by sending out to many picks.
on the other hand, if you've got draft capital, when are you going to use it?
at some point there are no roster spots left.
Pacers invested 3 FRP for Siakam and this was crucial to get them to the CF. (where they gave Boston more problems than the sweep suggests, in fact more problems than any team did in this PO).
to high a price some people will say. but this was the price to get it done. and honestly, the picks #19 and #29 in this years draft are not exactly the jackpot and assuming the Pacers will be good in 2026, this pick won't be either.
they still have their picks in 2025 and 2027 plus tons of 2nd round picks. they will be fine.
yeah, it's risky to sacrifice multiple picks for a verteran player, but it's also risky to use the picks, as not every pick will turn into a NBA player at all.
As much as they learned about Wembanyama and the team last year, they're still trying to figure things out. I get that people are impatient, but trading three picks for a player who doesn't fit is the wrong thing to do. Say, acquiring Darius Garland and then realizing it's not a fit with Wembanyama. What do you do at that point? You have to put him on the market again, because he won't accept going to the bench.
I think we can start chopping at pitches - if we want - pretty soon, but that time isn't here just yet.
This. It’s too early to start trading picks for y’all.
For me it's not about the time, but the opportunity.
Spurs don't need to make any big moves this summer.
Hope you draft two good players, give everyone another chance while trying to actually win games and see what happen.
In the meantime, be ready to jump at any opportunity that fits the roster.
Don't make moves for the sake of making moves, but if let's say Markkanen becomes available because Jazz s up his extension, then we need to be the first in line to acquire his services.
Many teams failed because their blew their load too early, but it's not like we haven't seen plenty of teams fail because they were too patient and always thought an even better opportunity will come up.
And Detroit would laugh all the way to the bank.
Of course they would. Remember, the Spurs are going to have their board even though the media have the draft as a lot flatter at the top than most. They aren't going to be like STers and think if players are in the same tier that they don't have a preference of who falls. They're going to do everything they can to throw off teams to their selections at 4 and especially 8. Like if the Spurs want Buzelis and feel Detroit will take him at five, they're going to avoid a situation where the Pistons trade up to three to snag him. If they can make the Pistons think "Oh no, they're in on Castle instead", then they can trick Detroit into not making the deal and thus landing their guy without having to trade. And if Houston is targeting Sheppard and believes the Spurs would take him at 4 if the Rockets move down, then Houston might not be willing to risk trading with Detroit.
If the Spurs are as in on this draft as I believe they are, they don't need to workouts to tell who they want at the top of the board. They do need those workouts to sort out their second-rounders. I find it interesting that the Spurs a looking at so many upperclassmen. As I've mentioned before, 35 is a great spot to draft some high-floor backfill to be long-term depth. Specifically getting a plug-and-play PG to take over Jones' rotation spot is a high priority in my book even if they draft point-guard at 4 or 8
We’ve already lost value on Keldon and Collins. Assuming a similar 24-25 campaign, Keldon’s value was clearly highest last summer, for instance. Collins, barring a miracle resurgence, is vastly overpaid and gives us little relatively in return.
Sure, PATFO may get a pass trying to see how the pieces fit around Wemby. I wouldn’t have traded Keldon last summer, either. But my point is hanging around sucking at the bottom of a conference doesn’t do your trade stock any favors in most cases. Players who are losing are typically not playing up to their potential.
If PATFO don’t heavily weigh every opportunity moving forward, they’re being negligent.
the problem is,I dont trust management to draft good players and build a talented roster with wemby.But guess will see next week
Yeah, just stop being impatient. Firing off assets without knowing what will work is dumb. Every off-season players will become available.
Rumors that three teams are vocal about trading into the 3 spot. Charlotte, Portland, and Memphis, with Hornets and Grizzlies the most aggressive.
One would think the target is Clingan, who might not even be there. Crazy that Donovan Clingan is the massive hinge for this draft. Not something I'd expect.
In the unlikely scenario that Clingan lasts past Houston, I suppose the Spurs could put that pick for sale and trade down. Right now it's hard to think Clingan will last past the first three picks, though, with Houston trading him.
If Houston trades down, they may still get Sheppard. Unlikely, so the play may even be to keep trading down. They don't really need anything from this draft.
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