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    I highly doubt, even with their relationship, that SA would give them that leverage by letting them know that. But either way, if Im SA I am calling their bluff and see if they take Risacher with pick 1.

    I hope they do tbh…
    Seems an easy bluff to call. Even if the Spurs valued Risacher, it's not hard to see that Atlanta isn't entirely comfortable taking him. Atlanta can't even know that he's at the top of the Spurs' board. They're going on Wembanyama's French relationship and comments he's made supporting a fellow French player. All this while making it clear that they like Clingan.

    Meanwhile, the Spurs don't need to jump over Washington or Houston, as neither team will take Risacher either.

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    I think Quinn and Landry were only ever in Austin.

    If there were ever a draft to get a wrong read on SA, this would be that draft. It’s so flat, and you’re as likely to get Player A at 3 as you are at 8 or 9.
    Yeah, the mocks are all over the place. Although talent is less than ideal, it’ll still make for an interesting night.

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    Seems an easy bluff to call. Even if the Spurs valued Risacher, it's not hard to see that Atlanta isn't entirely comfortable taking him. Atlanta can't even know that he's at the top of the Spurs' board. They're going on Wembanyama's French relationship and comments he's made supporting a fellow French player. All this while making it clear that they like Clingan.

    Meanwhile, the Spurs don't need to jump over Washington or Houston, as neither team will take Risacher either.
    Agree and based on TIMVP board etc..it doesn’t sound like SA values any one player SO much that they’d trade up to get someone.

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    Do we really think Spurs value Risacher so clearly that ATL thinks that may work? What would give them that impression that SA loves Risacher above all other players?
    If I were another franchise GMs, I would clearly put Risacher at #1 on Spurs big board for various reasons:
    - Risacher is viewed as a top2 prospect along Sarr by a lot of draft analysts.
    - Spurs have a huge hole at the starting SF spot and Risacher would be a great fit.
    - Spurs have scouted Risacher a lot including RC Buford and Holt.
    - Spurs will not worry about Risacher's transition to the US with Wembanyama helping it.

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    If I were another franchise GMs, I would clearly put Risacher at #1 on Spurs big board for various reasons:
    - Risacher is viewed as a top2 prospect along Sarr by a lot of draft analysts.
    - Spurs have a huge hole at the starting SF spot and Risacher would be a great fit.
    - Spurs have scouted Risacher a lot including RC Buford and Holt.
    - Spurs will not worry about Risacher's transition to the US with Wembanyama helping it.
    That makes sense, but that would still be speculation vs a leak from SA I am guessing. With all the Sarr to WAS noise (meaning SA would only need ATL to pass on Risacher for him to fall to SA at 4), does anyone even with Risacher being a fit for SA think SA values him so much more than anyone else to give up something meaningful to get him?

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    I don’t buy that ATL is out on Sarr.
    Why exactly? Bc of the workout snub and bc WAS really really really wants Sarr? This makes no sense to me.

    Instead of playing games with SAS, ATL should instead be playing games with WAS in the hopes they cough up an asset to move up to 1 for Sarr.

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    And I'm quite convinced Hawks won't pick Risacher at #1 and are bluffing about that with the idea to get a lot from Spurs in a trade to move up.
    What makes you say that?

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    That makes sense, but that would still be speculation vs a leak from SA I am guessing. With all the Sarr to WAS noise (meaning SA would only need ATL to pass on Risacher for him to fall to SA at 4), does anyone even with Risacher being a fit for SA think SA values him so much more than anyone else to give up something meaningful to get him?
    I hope no other teams GM has leaks from Spurs about who they really like. In reality, Spurs might very well like Castle or Sheppard more than Risacher. It is just that Risacher is the most logical candidate to be on top of Spurs board.

    And I agree with you, Spurs shouldn't overpay to get #1 for Risacher especially since he might fall to #4.

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    What makes you say that?
    It is just that Clingan and Sarr are just way better fit for Hawks. Capela is struggling and they really need a good center.

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    If I were another franchise GMs, I would clearly put Risacher at #1 on Spurs big board for various reasons:
    - Risacher is viewed as a top2 prospect along Sarr by a lot of draft analysts.
    - Spurs have a huge hole at the starting SF spot and Risacher would be a great fit.
    - Spurs have scouted Risacher a lot including RC Buford and Holt.
    - Spurs will not worry about Risacher's transition to the US with Wembanyama helping it.
    Bro this really reads like all you had were two bullet points and then you added 3 and 4 because you thought two wasn’t enough.

    The Spurs have a huge hole at point guard and that’s pretty much what’s acknowledged universally, not SF.

    The Spurs have scouted everybody and there’s not much evidence that it was “a lot” nor should it be assumed as more scouted than others just because of the scarcity of reporting.

    your 4th point can be valid for all French prospects. Wembanyama doesn’t even follow him on any of his social media. You’d figure there would be something there after yesterday’s workout but nada. Tony didn’t even give him a shoutout like he did with Salaun. I don’t think there’s much of a relationship there.

    heavy bias behind these points, tbh

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    Bro this really reads like all you had were two bullet points and then you added 3 and 4 because you thought two wasn’t enough.

    The Spurs have a huge hole at point guard and that’s pretty much what’s acknowledged universally, not SF.

    The Spurs have scouted everybody and there’s not much evidence that it was “a lot” nor should it be assumed as more scouted than others just because of the scarcity of reporting.

    your 4th point can be valid for all French prospects. Wembanyama doesn’t even follow him on any of his social media. You’d figure there would be something there after yesterday’s workout but nada. Tony didn’t even give him a shoutout like he did with Salaun. I don’t think there’s much of a relationship there.

    heavy bias behind these points, tbh
    Well, Spurs have more than 1 hole.

    I'm not saying "Risacher is #1 for Spurs". Spurs might even agree with you and have Risacher very low on their board. What I'm saying is for other franchises, Risacher being #1 for Spurs is what seems the most likely.

    BTW, Risacher is currently under contract with Parker's team in France. Before traveling to the US, he was practicing in their arena and when he will be drafted, Parker will get some buyout money. But yeah, there isn't much of a relationship...

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    Bro this really reads like all you had were two bullet points and then you added 3 and 4 because you thought two wasn’t enough.

    The Spurs have a huge hole at point guard and that’s pretty much what’s acknowledged universally, not SF.

    The Spurs have scouted everybody and there’s not much evidence that it was “a lot” nor should it be assumed as more scouted than others just because of the scarcity of reporting.

    your 4th point can be valid for all French prospects. Wembanyama doesn’t even follow him on any of his social media. You’d figure there would be something there after yesterday’s workout but nada. Tony didn’t even give him a shoutout like he did with Salaun. I don’t think there’s much of a relationship there.

    heavy bias behind these points, tbh
    In my opinion, it's not that the hole at SF doesn't exist. It's simply that most people realize filling the PG hole first will pay way higher dividends.

    Risacher would certainly fill a big gap, provided of course his game actually translates to the NBA. A great PG would be more preferable but if you can get a quality SF prospect in the absence of a PG, it's clearly the next biggest problem. After that, it's PF, unless you believe in Collins, Barlow and/or Bassey.

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    I don't see it as an either or between SF and PG. If they trade up to 1 for Risacher, I would think it'd be part of a package for Murray, not as a standalone.

    As far as the bigger need, despite the perception, Jones grades out as a higher impact player than Johnson. But, Champagnie provides a secondary rotational caliber option at SF, while Wesley fails to do the same at PG.

    Wembanyama doesn’t even follow him on any of his social media. You’d figure there would be something there after yesterday’s workout but nada. Tony didn’t even give him a shoutout like he did with Salaun. I don’t think there’s much of a relationship there.


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    He looked really good today too

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    He looked really good today too
    I watched the Hawks-Pacers highlights, it was fun to watch tbh, both teams seem to have promising young players

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    Risacher’s been a pro for a while and it clearly shows. He’s much more polished than most of the other rookies in his class.

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