2024 NBA Draft Thread

[LeBowen]

I'm right there, and it could be Sheppard, but I don't think so.

Trading up for a Risacher would be astonishingly bad.

When was the last time everyone kept talking about a Spurs trade target and it actually happened?
That's why I think Risacher interest isn't a thing. Unless he's there at #4.

[Mr. Body]

When was the last time everyone kept talking about a Spurs trade target and it actually happened?
That's why I think Risacher interest isn't a thing. Unless he's there at #4.

Yeah, I'm not even convinced they'd pick Risacher over Sheppard or Castle if all three are available, much less trade up to get him.

Atlanta is in a bad spot. There's a weird disadvantage in getting the #1 in this draft with their needs. My feeling is Risacher is still a screen, or rather bait, trying to get a trade, but that they'll pivot to Clingan. Clingan just gives their team much more shape, is a great dump-target, solidifies their defense. I don't know what Risacher does for them. They already have forwards.

[Mr. Body]

So...

I think we're looking at what most of us think - Clingan, Sarr, probably Sheppard

Then the big question we all have about Risacher or Castle for the Spurs.

[Russ]

On the ringer nba draft pod, all three hosts thought the spurs interest in risacher was a smoke screen to cover who they were really interested in

Risacher a smoke screen?

Could Risacher be the Pas-de-Calais?

Might Sarr be Normandy?

[TD 21]

I don't buy and am not advocating Stein's seeming indication that Sarr would be the target in a trade up to 1 scenario, but I'll play along: If true, Sochan needs to go (as a poor man's Jalen Johnson, he probably wouldn't have much value to them though).

If they're going Eiffel Towers, then the third big needs to be a "laser" of a stretch four.

69.29% of Spurstalk posters are not idiots for not wanting to take Risacher if he was available tbh.

I was clearly referencing PATFO.

Hypothetically if they moved some combination of 4 and 8(plus whatever) to Atlanta which includes Dejonte then I think they’d like Risacher over Sheppard in that scenario.

I suspect that's the only scenario they'd move up for because if they're going to come out of this lottery without a guard of some sort, then it'll be because they've got their long term lead guard via trade.

[Ariel]

4 + Chicago 2025 FRP + future SRPs for 1 (Sheppard)

Overpay

8 + 35 to move up to 5 or 6 (Castle)

Underpay

[exstatic]

"Further down the draft, the Suns are a strong candidate to trade down from No. 22. The goal for the Suns, Fischer reports, would be to ac ulate future second round picks while moving down in the first in order to restock their draft capital for trade flexibility. Additionally, adding several rookie contracts onto an expensive roster holds appeal for Phoenix."

Would anybody here trade four second rounders for pick 22 in this draft?

No. 35 probably holds more value than a late FRP.

[Ariel]

Trading up to #1 seemed like KOC wishcasting before... but now Stein is saying maybe there is some truth to it. Honestly I hope not.

It's probably Atlanta seeding all sorts of rumors to entice someone to move up, since it's become apparent they won't take Sarr and could get their target by trading back. I don't think the media has any clue as to what the Spurs are going to do.

[CGD]

Trading up to #1 seemed like KOC wishcasting before... but now Stein is saying maybe there is some truth to it. Honestly I hope not.

Has Marc Stien predicted anything noteworthy in recent years? I just don’t see why the Spurs would want to move up to 1; feels like ATL driving that narrative.

[kjhip1]

Has Marc Stien predicted anything noteworthy in recent years? I just don’t see why the Spurs would want to move up to 1; feels like ATL driving that narrative.

Wasn’t it all started by Givony from ESPN insinuating SA would possibly trade 4 and next years 25 ATL pick back to them?

[Mr. Body]

As in the other thread, assuming the Spurs want Risacher:

ATL: 50/50
WAS: X
HOU: X

Atlanta wants to get the Spurs to bite on Risacher. They've already said they like Clingan. There's risk that Houston might take and trade Clingan if he drops, but this seems like Houston is okay with that situation if they can get more out of their pick. All the Spurs need to do is call their bluff and have them take a wing, when their needs are heavier elsewhere and they've already indicated they like Clingan.

If the Spurs value a different player, Atlanta may also be searching this out, but since Sarr to Washington is a given, they probably don't think the Spurs want him. Bad fit and what not. Atlanta has floated a little interest in Castle, trying to smoke the Spurs out, but this hasn't gone far.

Just doesn't make sense to trade up.

[Mr. Body]

Wasn’t it all started by Givony from ESPN insinuating SA would possibly trade 4 and next years 25 ATL pick back to them?

Givony said 4+8. I believe all the rumors came from him.

[Russ]

No. 35 probably holds more value than a late FRP.

Which is why last year's Spurs' second round is so inexplicable.

[The Truth #6]

Lots of thought exercises on what Atlanta should do. Doesn't seem like SA would want that at all. Unless, they really want a certain player, or only want one rookie this year for some reason --perhaps because they still need more time with Branham and Wesley? The horror.

[CGD]

So...

I think we're looking at what most of us think - Clingan, Sarr, probably Sheppard

Then the big question we all have about Risacher or Castle for the Spurs.

My sincere hope is that the Spurs are already talking to DET about what they need for 5. CHA too, but I think their price at 6 will be super high if Castle is within grasp. I do believe this FO will select ZR at 4, so I don’t think there is a bluff for DET to call.

If a trade up scenario doesn’t materialize, Carter should become the target at 8 IMO.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

No. 35 probably holds more value than a late FRP.

I normally agree but I know several here have favorites that won't be there at 35. They're interested in Kolek, Carrington, Smith, Edey, Furphy, Scheierman, Dadiet, etc. Maybe the Spurs like one of these guys too.

I'd rather trade seconds for future firsts myself.

[Uriel]

For all the smoke and mirrors, the top of this draft is really simple. Atlanta drafts Clingan. Washington gets Sarr. Houston nabs Sheppard. And we select Risacher. Everyone gets the top choice on their draft board. Everyone is happy.

[baseline bum]

Givony said 4+8. I believe all the rumors came from him.

God I'd hate that. Don't feel strongly enough about any prospect to convert two swings to one when it's extremely likely the Spurs will have at least one of Risacher, Castle, and Sheppard to choose from at 4. Any of the three would make me happy at 4.

[PhantomDashCam]

For my tin-foil hat compadres.

Two notable names absent from the workout tracker atm - Matas Buzelis and Cody Williams and a third that is on the rise
in Carlton Carrington.

Sochan and Primo both didn’t show up on the tracker pre-draft. And although I can’t confirm it now, also believe Vassell wasn’t on that list at the time.

[mo7888]

For my tin-foil hat compadres.

Two notable names absent from the workout tracker atm - Matas Buzelis and Cody Williams and a third that is on the rise
in Carlton Carrington.

Sochan and Primo both didn’t show up on the tracker pre-draft. And although I can’t confirm it now, also believe Vassell wasn’t on that list at the time.

I've thought Matas is who we're targeting for a while now. Maybe it's confirmation bias because he's #2 on my Spurs board, but I think he's got a real shot to be the best player in this draft.

[kobyz]

I'm not sure ATL 25' is worth this year's ATL's 1st

You over optimistic, more chances it's not a lottery pick

[scottspurs]

I've thought Matas is who we're targeting for a while now. Maybe it's confirmation bias because he's #2 on my Spurs board, but I think he's got a real shot to be the best player in this draft.

#1 player on my board I would be pumped!!

[ismael-robert]

If stupid spurs just kept properly tanking they wouldn't have to be giving up assets. For the longest time they were below Washington who properly tanked to secure #2. 7 extra pointless wins going to cost us valuable capital

[Mr. Body]

If stupid spurs just kept properly tanking they wouldn't have to be giving up assets. For the longest time they were below Washington who properly tanked to secure #2. 7 extra pointless wins going to cost us valuable capital

What assets are they giving up? Why would they want to move up? Do you know how the lottery works?

[Pauleta14]

You over optimistic, more chances it's not a lottery pick

- ATL's 25 has more value than just the pick. It paralises ATL in their short term strategy and is a massive leverage asset for the Spurs.

- What's the worst case scenario? a 12th-15th pick in 25'? It's like a 3rd-4th pick this season

- Unless improbable scenario (ATL suddenly clicking and fighting for the 1st places) the pick will gain value with time. Spurs don't have to be pro active but just wait for teams coming to them or for the 25' lottery