Wemby did better and the Spurs were a better team with 6'1" Trey Jones on the court...
I think people get too caught up in size and forget to look at players that can really ball or play their position well. Dillingham is small but if he can be our baby Ja Morant ill take him over anyone in this draft. This team desperately needs someone who is shifty, can handle the ball, create for others and score with creativity which is exactly what Dillingham brings to the table.
If nothing else, Dillingham looks like an asset to take at 8. He should put up offensive numbers and could have some amount of trade value, maybe like Collin Sexton if I had to guess. And we do need his offensive skill set. Anyway. Just another angle to consider.
I'm still high on Dilly despite his recent slide down big boards. My original dream draft was Castle + Dillingham at 4 and 8 -- Would still love it tbh. He'd pair great with Wemby imo and would give us a legitimate scorer in the back court. Still think Brandon Jennings and Kemba Walker are both good comparisons. Skinnier Darius Garland as well. Just don't see it happening with the Spurs reportedly coveting positional size and defense around Wemby unfortunately.
Something tells me the Spurs might already have their eyes set on Nolan Traore in next year's draft as well tbh.
While it's true we don't need or want heliocentric point guard who would be on the ball most of the time, we desperately need someone who can collapse defenses.
Triple threat scorer would be a cheat code in PNR with Wemby. How do you stop that?
We know Dillingham's defense is tragic.
But from what I've seen, he's not a ballhog who doesn't move off the ball on offense.
If he can be a traditional triple threat iso scorer while also being someone you constantly need to chase off the ball, then he's worth the gamble.
I just don't see anyone else at #8 who's got such potential.
Yeah, he can also bust, but even if he doesn't live up to the expectations, he can be a great scorer off the bench.
All these theoretical forwards have no NBA ready skills and are out of the league before their rookie contract is over if they don't put it together.
If we get Castle/Risacher with #4, I'm team Dillingham for #8. Worth the risk.
I'm going back to Castle-Dillingham, although I don't think it happens. It's long been top of my list.
So... at worst Dillingham is a bench scorer, but he's alright with that. Even this latest interview bit says he's okay with that, and it's what he did at Kentucky. I'm alright with that - it's something we don't have, a change of pace outright scorer who can transform a second unit.
His defense, as I've said many times, is less of a problem than many say. His team defense is my real worry. His man defense I think can be improved. To me, Collier, Topic, and especially Salaun are just as bad of defenders or even worse.
His usage is around 30% which is a problem for the starting unit, but... if he hits, then his gravity will help Wembanyama and especially vice versa. He's an incredible shooter in nearly every aspect, great ballhandler, and very skittery. A team won't want to keep track of him while having to handle the Alien.
And he's a good playmaker. He had about a 30% assist rate - meaning 3/10 assists that happened with him on the court came from him.
Worse, he's a guy you roll in with second units and a guy where, when we're down to Denver by 12 in the third, send him out to see if he can get that deficit back. Best, Maxey-Embiid works at Philly, right?
Ultimately, though, I think the Spurs go with structure and length and would take a less dynamic player like Cody.
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I still see the two top players as...
Dillingham and Buzelis
and then
Sheppard
Dilly
Vassell
Buzelis
Sochan
Wemby
"better" is relative. Doesn't mean it was "good"
Yes it was "better" but mostly bc the other option was awfull.
It was still often pathetic with Tre on the floor. He's the NBA PG with the lowest assist below the FT line for ex. But he's got a high IQ and limited mistakes.
I just don't see it happening, and that has nothing to do with my own concerns about Dilly's size. The Spurs have a pretty solid track record with drafting oversized guards in Dejounte, Derrick, Primo, Wesley, & Branham, and then trying to shoehorn Sochan into the PG position. The only small guard they've chosen in recent history has been Tre, and I think that's only because he fell to them in the 2nd round-- and even when he was clearly their best option at PG, they tried everything they could to find an alternative answer to him as a starter. I just don't see Wright & RC changing that philosophy to take a guy who's the smallest of the small in a draft year considered one of the weakest in recent history, using a valuable lottery pick.
I’d rather just try to trade for Sexton and use 8 on someone else tbh…
I have him #3 on my board just behind Sheppard. should be the slam dunk pick at 8
I got Cody or Dilli at 8.
the only scenario where i wouldnt taky Dilly at 8 is one where we somehow got Sheppard at 4
I'd be all for Buz at 4 and Dilly and 8. A+ draft for me.
yes and that lineup i posted would be a versatile fast breaking fun starting 5!
Messing around with this idea... along with the Spurs truly wanting Dillingham or Carter. The post-Spurs 8 picks are:
Memphis
Utah
Chicago
OKC
Sacramento
Portland
Miami
Philly
Lakers
Magic
If Dillingham is really sliding, where does he stop? If Carter doesn't go top 8, where does he stop? The Spurs may be able to trade down, although I don't know who these teams want. I know some are not in the market for a small playmaking shooter.
I swear we are not the same person but I agree. Both are top 5 for me lol
Good point.
Memphis, OKC, Kings, Blazers, Sixers definitely don't need him.
Utah has similar players, I guess they'd prefer Topic.
Chicago is impossible to predict, but if they actually see Giddey as their future PG, I don't think they go for Dillingham.
Miami would be an interesting situation. Is he the guy for famous Heat Culture?
Lakers probably get a big or trade the pick.
His fit with the Magic is as good as it gets. Great defensive team, three level scorer desperately needed.
That's probably about right. Chicago is a sneaky pick (Carter maybe) but they have lots of guards. Opposite question is who any of these teams actually wants to trade up for.
There's also Jared McCain floating around. If there's an audience to trade down, the Spurs can get in place to pick one of those three smaller guards if they wanted. It's not really their M.O. Generally they just take the guy.
For Carter:
Memphis seems like an outside possibility
Chicago definitely in play
OKC another outside possibility
Miami in play
Philly in play and I'd be skeptical he falls below here
For Dilly:
Utah in play
Chicago in play
Miami in play
Philly in play
Lakers I can see some potential there
Floor is lower (though I don't think it should be, he's still in my top tier) but I could see a slide to the 20s for Dilly
Yeah, I agree. I think he goes to Florida, either to Miami at 15 (they are opportunistic) or Orlando at 18 at the latest. Orlando seems like an especially good fit.
15th or 18th would be beyond ridiculous.
Just look at this draft.
He's literally the only player who doesn't need to make massive improvements to his offensive game.
Amazing handles, shoots from everywhere, good passer, good off-ball movement and shooting, has a good layup package.
Everyone else is fundamentally flawed and yet we're debating if Dillingham even gets picked in the lottery.
Yeah, he's undersized, but he's not 5'9, ffs.
For serious, lol. It's hard not to believe Dillingham is going to vastly overplay Risacher, Williams, Buzelis, etc. It's astounding how narratives change. Last summer it was all about Tyler Herro and Maxey and Booker and Kentucky guards almost always overplay their draft positions. Suddenly everyone's flocked to the other side of the gym and believe 1) Dillingham is the eighth dwarf and 2) he doesn't even cross the midline to play defense.
Hey, you're barking up the wrong tree. I've had him as my no. 1 option at PG for like 4+ months. I'm just stating what I believe would happen, not what I'd do.
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