Devin Carter - From Second Round to Potential Lottery

[spurraider21]

Not everyone in college is a freshman. In fact, most of the players that Carter was playing against were the same age as him.

i know there are plenty of exceptions to this, but in the one and done era the guys who look like they'll be promising nba players end up largely being one and done. to the extent you are playing against juniors/seniors, yes they may be more physically developed but these also tend to be less skilled players. the good, nba worthy upperclassman still tend to look better than they are, because theyre either much farther along physically than the "good" one and done prospects, or theyre facing other upperclassmen who just arent up to par skill wise

[Mr. Body]

i know there are plenty of exceptions to this, but in the one and done era the guys who look like they'll be promising nba players end up largely being one and done. to the extent you are playing against juniors/seniors, yes they may be more physically developed but these also tend to be less skilled players. the good, nba worthy upperclassman still tend to look better than they are, because theyre either much farther along physically than the "good" one and done prospects, or theyre facing other upperclassmen who just arent up to par skill wise

Upperclassman college players are often really, really good. They may not have the physical traits it takes to play in the NBA, but they are still serious players. An upperclassman Hunter inson was way ing better than Jackson Hayes or that other tall skinny kid from Texas whose name I can't remember. Mo Bamba. The talent and skill level is completely different. The NIL is also rapidly transforming how players are staying in college and developing there.

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Not everyone in college is a freshman. In fact, most of the players that Carter was playing against were the same age as him.

Yeah most guys he was going up against and dominating were his age as there not a lot of starting 18 year old on good programs except the likes of Duke and Kentucky

[R. DeMurre]

^^^ And I think this is something that Dan Hurley has used to his advantage to win two college championships, having seniors and juniors carry the vast majority of the weight while the more highly touted freshman and sophs (Castle and Clingan) play fewer minutes and slot into the best situations.

[BackHome]

The Spurs aren’t giving two rookies major minutes this upcoming season. They will with one, but not two. That’s why I think they will lean with a project at 8, rather than a known thing like Carter.

In this draft you just take best player and worry who can start and who will be in G League latter. In the end Spurs are just going to pick the best player that’s still available on there big board

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Tbh, I wouldn't mind.
Keep Tre one more year until these two develop point guard skills.

If Castle and Carter develop close to their best case scenario, our guard rotation would be set for many years with two of them and Devin.

Most folks don't just routinely develop point guard skills...or shooting skills...or finishing skills.

Those that do are the exception to the rule. Castle is a good finisher but poor shooter. Carter is a decent shooter but average passer and poor finisher at best and is 6'3" and this board has historically HATED smallish PGs. At least they're both quick and both seem to have defensive capabilities. (BTW, I'm 6'3" and have never thought of myself as smallish, lol)

I'm not getting the late love the board is having for these guys, quite frankly. I simply don't think you waste a 4 or even 8 on a PG with the kind of deficiencies these two have in the HOPES they develop the nearly undevelopable skills to do so. Of course some do become good shooters or learn to finish but they're definitely not common.

If you're shooting for pure chance or hope, Salaun has a better shot. Buzelis is more sculpted as a complete player now because his issue is BBIQ defensively and that CAN be coached. Or Clingan as an actual deep post player to recreate the Twin Towers. To me each of those picks can be better defended than Castle or Carter, imo.

[spurraider21]

Upperclassman college players are often really, really good. They may not have the physical traits it takes to play in the NBA, but they are still serious players. An upperclassman Hunter inson was way ing better than Jackson Hayes or that other tall skinny kid from Texas whose name I can't remember. Mo Bamba. The talent and skill level is completely different. The NIL is also rapidly transforming how players are staying in college and developing there.

honestly i hope so. there is a place for one and done type players, as there was historically a place for direct-from-high-school players, but the current system where almost everybody draftable just leaves right away sucks. you get wildly immature players (from a basketball perspectives), many of whom need to do such fundamental things like rework their shooting form. much rather they go through those growing pains in college and then can get drafted as a closer to finished project that can earn a role right away. blake wesley was drafted because he was fast off the dribble and had solid size. the spurs seem close to giving up on him. realistically, he should have been in college for at least another year or 2 anyway.

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That sucks.