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    i think they end up selecting sarr and washington gives them a little compensation for the swap, where the hawks presumably take risacher. they've had a hole at SF for a while now and they know Hunter isnt it. Risacher and Jalen Johnson at the forward position gives them solid size, athleticism, shooting, and defensive switch-ability

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    i think they end up selecting sarr and washington gives them a little compensation for the swap, where the hawks presumably take risacher. they've had a hole at SF for a while now and they know Hunter isnt it. Risacher and Jalen Johnson at the forward position gives them solid size, athleticism, shooting, and defensive switch-ability
    Makes the most sense. I'd be interested to see what that compensation would be though. No way they give up a FRP to move up one spot for Sarr imo unless it's heavily protected imo.

    If ATL believes he's their guy, they should just doing the right thing for their franchise and draft him anyways.

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    The Spurs are in position to snake in and steal Sarr from Washington if they really wanted. Atlanta's own picks wouldn't be necessary. Just start with the Charlotte pick, add the Chicago pick if you want, other assets like seconds or taking on salary.

    Then Atlanta gets either Clingan or Risacher at 4, whichever is left.

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    Makes the most sense. I'd be interested to see what that compensation would be though. No way they give up a FRP to move up one spot for Sarr imo unless it's heavily protected imo.

    If ATL believes he's their guy, they should just doing the right thing for their franchise and draft him anyways.
    i dont think it would be a first either, not in this draft. i think it ends up being something like a couple of SRPs or some protected swap

    washington got a bunch of crap SRPs from phoenix in the beal trade

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    The Spurs are in position to snake in and steal Sarr from Washington if they really wanted. Atlanta's own picks wouldn't be necessary. Just start with the Charlotte pick, add the Chicago pick if you want, other assets like seconds or taking on salary.

    Then Atlanta gets either Clingan or Risacher at 4, whichever is left.
    If he's avoiding ATL cause he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Trae, then he almost certainly doesn't want to play second fiddle to Wemby tbh.

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    Sarr will be a bust. The fact that he WANTS to go to DC is the last piece of evidence I needed to confirm it

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    Sarr will be a bust. The fact that he WANTS to go to DC is the last piece of evidence I needed to confirm it
    tbh. His upside is real, especially on the defensive end, just given his physical tools, athleticism, and coordination. But I agree that I definitely don't see a #1 option offensively in him. He'd be better off playing next to a star like Trae that could set him up imo. Or as a secondary piece to a guy like Wemby (hypothetically speaking). In that sense, he could become an important piece to the puzzle. If you're expecting him to be your savior, then I think you're in trouble.

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    Sarr will be a bust. The fact that he WANTS to go to DC is the last piece of evidence I needed to confirm it
    Tbh, if it's between Wizards and Hawks, I'm taking Wizards.
    Hawks will probably treadmill while we have their picks and then blow it up.
    Wizards have some solid young players that kind of fit with Sarr.

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    If he's avoiding ATL cause he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Trae, then he almost certainly doesn't want to play second fiddle to Wemby tbh.
    It's not that he doesn't want to be second fiddle. That would be insane, as he has limited offensive skills. It's that he wants to play PF and have time to develop, where Atlanta already has a player there. His agent already steered Luka away from Atlanta, so maybe he just hates the place.

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    Tbh, if it's between Wizards and Hawks, I'm taking Wizards.
    Hawks will probably treadmill while we have their picks and then blow it up.
    Wizards have some solid young players that kind of fit with Sarr.
    Easily. Atlanta is stuck in mud, has a player everyone hates in Trae, has an awful fanbase, and is in a city that is just a massive congested freeway.

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    Sarr will be a bust. The fact that he WANTS to go to DC is the last piece of evidence I needed to confirm it
    I do wonder if Sarr somehow falls, whether the choice between him or Clingan is closer than we think. I'm of the view that it would be malpractice for the Spurs not to take one of those two at 4 (assuming ZR, Shepard, and Castle are gone), if only to preserve the asset.

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    I've seen a few interviews where Sarr is extremely complimentary about Wemby. Doesn't seem like he'd have an issue playing with him.

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    Easily. Atlanta is stuck in mud, has a player everyone hates in Trae, has an awful fanbase, and is in a city that is just a massive congested freeway.
    One of the worst cities ever to drive in. Legit. Did it once in a rental and will never again. I avoid ATL altogether tbh.

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    I've seen a few interviews where Sarr is extremely complimentary about Wemby. Doesn't seem like he'd have an issue playing with him.
    If all it cost the Spurs was the CHA or CHI pick + 4 then I'd be all in tbh. But that's highly unlikely. I don't see ATL trading down 3 spots for either of those picks, and I don't think WAS would trade down period with Sarr on the board unless it was for the ATL pick(s) either. Just seems highly unlikely he's not a Hawk or Wizard tomorrow night.

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    Kinda crazy to think that Jalen Johnson dropped in the draft because of supposed character issues, and now he might be the guy Atlanta rebuilds around. The Spurs picked the anti-Jalen Johnson in Primo in part because he had high character. It's not easy work predicting how 18 and 19 years olds will behave.

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    One of the worst cities ever to drive in. Legit. Did it once in a rental and will never again. I avoid ATL altogether tbh.
    Lol, when I had to move from TX to Durham, NC my buddy gave me one piece of advice for driving there:
    Avoid Atlanta at all costs.

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    Atlanta may look currently stuck in the mud, but their best bet is to move Trae or DJM for some other established pieces, and they already have some other tools that can get them in the playoffs. The Hawks problem (IMO) is that it's a poorly constructed roster.

    Washington on the other hand will be a lottery team until they strike it big for a legit transformational player in the draft (which may come next year, we'll have to wait and see). Sarr won't be that transformational player. Unlike teams like Spurs, Thunder and Jazz, WAS does not have a warchest of FRPs at their disposal to make moves with either, nor do they have a player like DJM that they can go out and secure a bag of picks with.

    The more I think about it, the more I would rate WAS as the least optimistic future in the NBA. DET and CHA have better young talent, POR has better pieces as well, the Nets are in a bit of a dire situation themselves but they have some veterans who could help them replenish the pick coffers if they would simply wake the up, monetize them, and start the rebuild. If the Spurs didn't have Wemby, we'd probably WAS nearest compe or for least optimistic future, but we'd have a boatload of picks that they don't.

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    Traffic, weather and backwoods hillbillies aside, Atlanta is actually a really cool city. I've enjoyed my visits there, they have a lot of cool modern urban revitalization going on there.

    But... I always take Ubers

    (Of course, DC is also a very cool city and it holds a lot of appeal for foreigners of professional ranks, for reasons I've never understood.)

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    If all it cost the Spurs was the CHA or CHI pick + 4 then I'd be all in tbh. But that's highly unlikely. I don't see ATL trading down 3 spots for either of those picks, and I don't think WAS would trade down period with Sarr on the board unless it was for the ATL pick(s) either. Just seems highly unlikely he's not a Hawk or Wizard tomorrow night.
    I think I disagree. I see Atlanta as having been desperate to move down and trying to make scorching eye contact across the bar at the Spurs. They were trying this with Risacher and it wasn't working. Now, I doubt it works for Sarr, but from what I've been sensing, Atlanta would be happy to squeeze assets out of this draft and still get one of their players.

    But I don't think it happens.

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    The MSN article I saw today said that ATL wants to deal but SAS does not. Of course the return of the ATL 2025 draft pick was mentioned as a key obstacle. Sorry I lost track of the link, MSN just recycles other news sources or in this case draft rumors.

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    Also odd that Sarr's camp wants him in Washington so badly tbh. He's not friends with Coulibaly as far I can tell so that's not the reason. You'd think he would want to play with Trae and Co over Jordan Poole and the mess they have up there in DC. Would definitely make his transition easier to the NBA playing alongside Trae + just being the 1st Overall Pick and getting a larger contract. Pretty strange tbh.
    With his 2026 opt out, I think Trae is gone, possibly this summer, but almost certainly next. They also have a negative pick count, where Washington scored some in the Beal deal.

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    The Spurs are in position to snake in and steal Sarr from Washington if they really wanted. Atlanta's own picks wouldn't be necessary. Just start with the Charlotte pick, add the Chicago pick if you want, other assets like seconds or taking on salary.

    Then Atlanta gets either Clingan or Risacher at 4, whichever is left.
    Atlanta is in no hurry to trade the top pick especially to the Spurs for those trash picks from Charlotte and Chicago.

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    Traffic, weather and backwoods hillbillies aside, Atlanta is actually a really cool city. I've enjoyed my visits there, they have a lot of cool modern urban revitalization going on there.

    But... I always take Ubers

    (Of course, DC is also a very cool city and it holds a lot of appeal for foreigners of professional ranks, for reasons I've never understood.)
    Re DC: it's the embassies, think tanks, proximity to other cool US cities, and stable middle class jobs due to the presence of the federal government.

    Atlanta is awesome. Lovely people and beautiful women.

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    Sarr will be a bust. The fact that he WANTS to go to DC is the last piece of evidence I needed to confirm it

    Have to confess, I have a similar bias thinking about Dillingham choosing both Kanye's Donda Academy and Overtime Elite. The Kentucky decision redeems him a little bit.

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    With his 2026 opt out, I think Trae is gone, possibly this summer, but almost certainly next. They also have a negative pick count, where Washington scored some in the Beal deal.
    WAS only got swaps (the first of which already passed as moot) and SRPs in the Beal deal. They did get a Top 20 Protected 2030 FRP from GS (lol) in the Paul-Poole swap. The FRP immediately turns into a 2030 SRP if not conveyed.

    Washington doesn't really have a pick war chest either, unless they can start converting some of these SRPs into FRPs.

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